Thread: Aliens, Naturalization & Congress’ powers vs. State po

This is meant to clear up some of the inaccurate information regarding Arizona’s new law regarding aliens and Congress‘s authority under our Constitution in the matter, and identify powers which the States have retained under the Tenth Amendment.

Congress has been granted power [b][i]“To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalizationâ€

Thank you John for posting this, it is excellent!

Congress has been granted power “To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization,â€

[quote="NoBueno"]Congress has been granted power “To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization,â€

Originally Posted by SOSADFORUS

Thank you John for posting this, it is excellent!

I appreciate your kind words!


It is utterly incredible that those who are attempting to protect foreign nationals who have invaded our borders continue to get a pass by our big media when they assert Arizona’s law circumvents the “supremacy clauseâ€

Judy wrote,

Actually, states even retained the authority to determine who becomes an immigrant. Congress can restrict state immigration, but it can't permit, expand or grant permission to enter the US without the express consent of the receiving state and any other state the immigrant might wish to travel to once admitted to the country.

And states need to be asserting their powers in this area on legal immigrant as well with a Mad Hat Congress issuing 1.13 million green cards a year and another 200,000 visa workers per year without the consent of the state legislatures of the states affected by it.

Judy, you are damn near amazing at times. Thanks to you and Johnwk for this thread, and your post.

This thread helps me to understand the proper roles that were set in place between the states and the federal government. Honestly it feels natural, common sense comes to the forefront of thoughts concerning the roles the two are to play.

Bring it home locally, where the rubber meets the asphalt.

"In regard to economic policy, socialism and communism are identical." Ludwig von Mises

Article I, Section 8.
To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

Here is the problem....our government refuses to admit this is an invasion so the states have no choice but to take the problem on themselves, and they have a right to so so.

Originally Posted by roundabout

Judy wrote,

Actually, states even retained the authority to determine who becomes an immigrant. Congress can restrict state immigration, but it can't permit, expand or grant permission to enter the US without the express consent of the receiving state and any other state the immigrant might wish to travel to once admitted to the country.

And states need to be asserting their powers in this area on legal immigrants as well with a Mad Hat Congress issuing 1.13 million green cards a year and another 200,000 visa workers per year without the consent of the state legislatures of the states affected by it.

Judy, you are damn near amazing at times. Thanks to you and Johnwk for this thread, and your post.

This thread helps me to understand the proper roles that were set in place between the states and the federal government. Honestly it feels natural, common sense comes to the forefront of thoughts concerning the roles the two are to play.

Bring it home locally, where the rubber meets the asphalt.

"In regard to economic policy, socialism and communism are identical." Ludwig von Mises

You're most welcome, roundabout. And thank you.

That's right, bring it home locally, where the rubber meets the asphalt. Perfectly stated. The Constitution already establishes this relationship between the states and the federal government on immigration. And the US Congress has no authority to over-ride or usurp that relationship without an amendment to the US Constitution. States just need to take it back, do what Arizona is doing and put their 800,000 sworn police officers to the task, and tell Congress they can't "approve" 1 more immigrant to enter the United States without the prior formal consent of the states affected. Period. The only Constitutional authority the federal government has on immigration is to tell states importing more people than is in the best interest of the nation, they can't import more. But the federal government can not use its power to increase the population of the United States or any state comprising it with foreign nationals against the will of the states affected by the immigration.

Great topic! Isn't it in the Constitution somewhere that if a certain percentage of the population of one country is here illegally, that it is then considered an invasion? Didn't I read somewhere that we are already at that point?

Should this thread be placed on the homepage?