Thread: About To Hit The Fan Big Time

Originally Posted by USPatriot

Originally Posted by AmericanElizabeth

Guess you have not received the memo? The senate voted to not allow the trucks in.


A VICTORY! Senate Pulls Plug on Open Borders for Mexican Trucks!

http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=F ... ic&t=82336.

AmericanElizabeth I guess he did not get the memo the Prez can't veto this bill because it is a congressional mandate majority vote.

Now this would be a HUGE blessing in disguise!

Originally Posted by USPatriot

AmericanElizabeth I guess he did not get the memo the Prez can't veto this bill because it is a congressional mandate majority vote.

Wow! I'll make this simple: If a president is not allowed to veto this Senate bill, then I guess the bill would never become enforcable - checks and balances and all that constitutional popycock.

And if that Senate bill is not enforceable - what exactly are you celebrating?

I don't think we should be wasting time fighting amongst ourselves. Our enemies are elsewhere.

I read here somewhere that ther are already trucks from Mexico making runs throughout the country. They started last week and the one given in the story had made a run to N.Y. and was planning on picking up goods in Ark. and Al... I also will believe when I see the trucks blocked. Bush will take the "voice of America" personal and will definately try to get around the senate as to not upset his buddy in Mexico. There is more to this that is just over our heads. There is an alterior motive. Maybe oil. Maybe cheap labor for big buisiness. Whatever it is, Bush wont settle for not getting his way..And I agree with Northofthecity that this is an open invitation for another 9-11 or worse. The crazy thing is. As hardcore anti-terrorist as Bush paints himself; Why in God's name would he be almost rolling out the red carpet for another attack??? Think about it.

Originally Posted by InsaneAsylum

I don't think we should be wasting time fighting amongst ourselves. Our enemies are elsewhere.

I agree.

Originally Posted by Ronster

Originally Posted by InsaneAsylum

I don't think we should be wasting time fighting amongst ourselves. Our enemies are elsewhere.

I agree.

Fighting amongst ourselves???

I think I would characterize it as debate...though some of the replies in this particular thread do fall a bit short of that status.

Why in the world would you want to have a discussion group or forum populated by people who fall all over each other in total agreement with everything? Is this not a place where ideas and opinions are presented in order to elicite responses from a broad spectrum of opinion? Do we not benefit from consideration of diverse perspectives on a given issue or topic?

Originally Posted by NorthOfTheCity

Why in the world would you want to have a discussion group or forum populated by people who fall all over each other in total agreement with everything? Is this not a place where ideas and opinions are presented in order to elicite responses from a broad spectrum of opinion? Do we not benefit from consideration of diverse perspectives on a given issue or topic?

I don't. Yes it is. Yes we do.

Originally Posted by blackz28

I read here somewhere that ther are already trucks from Mexico making runs throughout the country. They started last week and the one given in the story had made a run to N.Y. and was planning on picking up goods in Ark. and Al... I also will believe when I see the trucks blocked. Bush will take the "voice of America" personal and will definately try to get around the senate as to not upset his buddy in Mexico. There is more to this that is just over our heads. There is an alterior motive. Maybe oil. Maybe cheap labor for big buisiness. Whatever it is, Bush wont settle for not getting his way..And I agree with Northofthecity that this is an open invitation for another 9-11 or worse. The crazy thing is. As hardcore anti-terrorist as Bush paints himself; Why in God's name would he be almost rolling out the red carpet for another attack??? Think about it.

This is a perfect example of what I believe is the purpose of message boards like this. Blackz28 has taken what I've said and expanded upon it in his own way, enriching us all with his perspective. It doesn't matter if I agree (I do in this case) or I disagree. We're all the better for it.

Bush has to stop the trucks because Congress cut off the money to keep the program going. If he dared go ahead with it without proper inspections and security, Congress will come down on his head. Why? Because we'll come down on Congress' head if they don't. Funny how that works, huh?

As for the amnedment to stop the funding for the trucks. It's stuck in a bill that is veto proof. Bush doesn't have a choice in this instance. Just like the enforcement bill. Chertoff is grumbling, but he's doing it.

Originally Posted by tinybobidaho

As for the amnedment to stop the funding for the trucks. It's stuck in a bill that is veto proof. Bush doesn't have a choice in this instance. Just like the enforcement bill. Chertoff is grumbling, but he's doing it.

Nothing is veto-proof. If he decides to veto the bill, he will. Let's hope he does not.