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    Alert!!!: AgJobs Amnesty on the Congressional Table

    From: Roy Beck, President, NumbersUSA
    Date: Monday 3SEP07 2 p.m. EDT

    54 million Americans not working (it's true) -- But Senate will try another amnesty this month

    Many of you have written to protest the "54 million" and other numbers in the on-line petition to Presidential candidates. You are certain that we are exaggerating. But we are not. I explain lower in this email. -- ROY

    DEAR FRIENDS, LET'S STOP THIS AMNESTY FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS, TOO!

    The open-borders assault on American workers and taxpayers will resume this week when Congress returns.

    Since your victory over the Comprehensive Amnesty in the Senate in June, the pro-amnesty forces have been planning and mounting their new assault.

    Their own communications with their members and their comments to the media outline their plan. They will forego attempting an amnesty for the minimum of 12 million total illegal aliens. Instead, they will seek an amnesty for 1.5 million illegal farmworkers (which will also result in a few more millions of their close relatives being allowed to be amnestied or invited right away).


    Please watch your Action Buffet for faxes to send and watch your in-box for emails from us with specific links to new faxes and phone requests related to stopping the Ag Amnesty this fall.

    Nothing less than the level of your effort in May and June will prevent the Ag Amnesty from going through this fall!

    Pro-amnesty advocacy groups are telling their members that Sen. Kennedy (D-Mass.) and Sen. Feinstein (D-Calif.) have promised them that the Ag Jobs amnesty will be attached to the farm bill this fall and be passed into law.

    UNLIMITED NUMBER OF LEGAL AG WORKERS AVAILABLE -- ZERO NEED FOR AG AMNESTY

    The media -- since we beat the amnesty in June -- have been pushing constant scare stories about how crops will rot in the fields and on the trees the rest of the year because the supply of illegal ag workers is dwindling.

    They are using those stories to make the case that the hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens now working in U.S. agriculture should be legalized and set on a path to citizenship.

    POINT #1: Most of the "rotting" is mainly factual rot itself. Few reporters actually observe the rotting.

    POINT #2: When crops actually don't get picked in time, it is nearly always the grower's fault for having gambled on finding illegal workers instead of using a legal guestworker program.

    The federal government offers the H-2A visa which allows farmers to import unlimited numbers of foreign ag workers for specific short-term work.

    Any time you see a grower quoted that he is going to lose his crop because of a lack of workers, you can know that he didn't plan ahead. If he insists on using foreign workers, he has a perfectly legal foreign guestworker program available.

    POINT #3: Why don't those complaining growers use the H-2A visa program? Mostly, it is because they have to pay an almost decent wage under the program, while illegal aliens are cheaper.

    POINT #4: Occasionally a story about "rotting crops" mentions that H-2A workers are available but quotes a grower claiming that the legal program is too cumbersome. Our first response is that if somebody really wants to harvest his crops he would put up with "cumbersome" to get the job done.

    Nonetheless, we have worked for a few years with some of the most pro-farmer Members of Congress to streamline the H-2A program, make it faster, more dependable and remove a few somewhat outdated requirements. If the growers' lobbyists had worked with the Members of Congress, the bureaucratic red tape and unreasonable requirements already would have been removed from the guestworker program.

    The ag lobbyists, however, have failed to support reforms, instead putting all their efforts into an amnesty for the illegal workers their clients already are hiring.

    Let me quickly say that we have many indications that most farmers in America oppose amnesty for illegal alien ag workers.

    But their lobbyists are relentless in being the wedge for the open-borders enthusiasts who eventually want a free flow of foreign labor across our borders and competing directly with American workers in all occupations.

    MAIN POINT: Some of you may be tempted to sit this fight out because you don't think there is any harm to flooding the ag job occupation with foreign workers -- because you can't imagine Americans doing farm work.

    First, the Department of Labor finds that the majority of farm workers (about 55%) in the U.S. are native-born Americans!

    Surely on Labor Day, we can stipulate that the government should not be driving down the incomes of these American farm workers (nor should it be driving down the incomes of permanently settled LEGAL foreign-born farm workers.

    While we at NumbersUSA question the need or the advisability of large-scale foreign ag worker importation, we support efforts to drive all such hiring through legal programs that are designed to minimize the negative effect on our American native and legal immigrant ag workers.

    It is time for the 1.5 million or more illegal ag workers to go home. To the extent, legal U.S. residents can't be found to replace them, that can be handled through the existing legal foreign worker program.

    Farmers who have routinely broken immigration laws by hiring illegal aliens often argue that they don't want legal workers because they are used to the illegal ones they have been using for a long time. Even that wish can be handled through the existing program. If the illegals go home, the farmers can specifically recruit their former illegal workers through H-2A. But those workers would then have to be paid legal rates and they would have to abide byt he rules, including going back home regularly.

    If we don't stop this Ag Amnesty this fall, you can be sure that we'll have an even more difficult time stopping a larger amnesty soon after
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    I hope everyone can commit to making at least 3-5 (or more) phone calls tomorrow to Congress in opposition to the AgJobs amnesty scheme. Let's have a proper return greeting for them.

    Please call, fax or e-mail: Do NOT support the AgJobs amnesty scheme !!
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    Sounds like we need to gear up a Focus Campaign effort ASAP and ride the heck out of every Senator
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    I don't know precisely what it will take to get Congress listening but WE NEED TO REVERSE THE DECLINE IN AGRICULTURAL TECHNOLOGY that was begun in earnest almost thirty years ago in the Carter administration.

    To be more correct much imnnovation has been progressing, but not so much in the harvesting aspect of it. Other countries, because they have not had a huge pool of labor next door, have moved ahead in automating and mechanizing harvesting. Australia, for example, with huge agricultural potential can not just open the border and let millions in to pick produce. The same is true in Europe. I have noticed in my research that Fiat, of Italy, is a huge producer of agricultural equipment. (Hopefully their farm machinery is better than their cars!)

    Phillip Martin of UC Davis has outlined the history and basic sociology of American dependence on foreign labor in agriculture:
    http://migration.ucdavis.edu/cf/more.php?id=179_0_2_0

    There are numerous, well organized exposition fairs on agricultural technology. Many of these will feature equipment and machnery built overseas, but American manufacturers are there, too. With the huge potential demand that exists in the US these foreign companies could be invited to produce their items in this country if American companies are unwilling to.

    Here is a major AgExpo fair, held annually in Tulare, CA:
    http://www.worldagexpo.com/

    Apart from harvesting there are numerous labor saving ideas and inventions that can reduce the dependence on human labor. Other industries throughour our great country have instituted labor saving methods--- and people adjusted. Tractor mounted implements, conveyors, computerized scanners, soil sciences, pest control, fertilizing---all contribute to better harvests and less labor.

    Farmworker groups have found some particularly persistent allies in social service organizations, thus acquiring a more tenacious grip in the agricultural industry. But is this causing American farmers to be less and less competitive in a globalized industry? A farmworker in the US might be paid a hundred dollars a day: In Brazil he might be paid ten. We can't compete against that advantage.

    Rather than providing a social safety ladder for foreign workers we need to thank them, send them home and move ahead with harvesting technology. Agricultural businesses should be given notice that their pools of human labor will in short time become unavailable and they had better get down to the Agricultural Expositions and brainstorm how to get into the new century.
    "Men of low degree are vanity, Men of high degree are a lie. " David
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    I sure hope talk radio goes after this because that is how we beat amnesty last time.
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    Fellow activists, please call Congress to tell them to oppose the HUGE AgJobs amnesty scheme. Let's take action!
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    Instead, they will seek an amnesty for 1.5 million illegal farmworkers (which will also result in a few more millions of their close relatives being allowed to be amnestied or invited right away).
    As I have stated many time before, for the RAZAists/OBL's it is ALL about the camel getting it's nose under the amnesty tent! If amnesty is granted for even a relatively small fraction of these illegal invaders you can bet the (ahem) "farm" that the result will be a defacto amnesty for ALL of them! The reason being is that once you have decriminalized a few, especially those that have completely failed to assimilate, all the obvious factors (such as inability to speak english) that law enforcement uses to question legal status of a perp will go out the window. In other words, if some are granted amnesty, our current PC lock-down dictates that we must ASSume ALL have been granted amnesty.

    Time to get back in the saddle folks, and collectively ride this latest crap right out of town!

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    All the above and...

    NumbersUSA has new faxes on this subject ready for your sending.

    Go check your action buffet if you signed up with NumbersUSA.

    Thanks.
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    According to facts given out during the debate on the Comprehensive Imm. Reform Bill, less then 2% of the ag workers are ILLEGAL.

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