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    Cayla99 - And what the name-throwers often fail to realize, is that your situation is probably more typical than not (I could say much the same about my circle of family and friends - which, incidentally, includes: African American, "Native" American, Vietnamese American, a Naturalized Australian American, A Naturalized Latin American, and so forth. I don't think of them as <hyphen here>-Americans, I just think of them as friends and family eg. "Americans".
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    I never really pay attention to the races of my friends and family. I only take note when I am called a racist and I realize what a ludicrous statement that really is.
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    email to ADL:

    As a conservative republican, and a member of alipac.us, I ask why you are a hate mongering organization?

    At alipac, words such hordes and swarms are not used, and hate speech or racism will get you kicked out on the spot.

    Why don't you talk about MALDEF and LULAC and their racism? Why not talk about the marches by ILLEGALS that are full of hate. Do you need a few dozen examples? Watch them on youtube.com.

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    W's point about timing was interesting. And, the other groups know we monitor their sites too, and I suspect I got handed a specimen of psyops once at a pro-immigrant site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenJustice
    email to ADL:

    As a conservative republican, and a member of alipac.us, I ask why you are a hate mongering organization?

    At alipac, words such hordes and swarms are not used, and hate speech or racism will get you kicked out on the spot.

    Why don't you talk about MALDEF and LULAC and their racism? Why not talk about the marches by ILLEGALS that are full of hate. Do you need a few dozen examples? Watch them on youtube.com.
    Do you have an email address for these idiots?
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    ADL is nothing more than a slander arm for the radical left. Racial accusations now adays are really just a fire and forget weapon. The purpose of which is to simply destabalize by putting the burden of proof on the accused. In America when someone is falsely accused of something there is a feeling of desperation to exonerate themselves or their organizations. This is basically due to the power and character of the slander machine. But in reality, the adl is a discredited organization, funded by the right and left. I was in France last year and I was talking with a French Conservative about politics and the upcoming election, mostly to do with immigration. I asked him what he felt about the left (far left in France is FAR left...well so is ours if you peel back their covers...) calling everyone they disagree with Nazi's. He shrugged his shoulders and said, "This of course is stupid for a French person, having seen the Nazis to throw this around. Only Americans used to do this, but the older French will not say this."

    The reaction a slander pig like this is attempting to get is based on accquiring a false sense of power. In other words, you are supposed to be afraid and dwell on the negativity these accusations can bring and this makes you focus on him and the larger "idea o'sphere" in terms of convincing that you are not.

    These are some points I would say that are helpful in dealing with false accusations in this case:

    1. Make a well written response that includes a debate challenge to Mr Foxman. Put the ball on his court challenge him to make those accusations in public, in front of you. From what I have heard this guy is an absolute coward, he cannot make eye contact. If this slander monkeys are going to spout vile accusations they should be forced to have to defend it to the public. It is unacceptable for them to pop up out of middle earth, like smegel in Lord of the Rings, and pass on printable slander to their "good old boy system" in the MSM. Call him out. Advertise the cal out and make very clear the reason for it. Don't expend too much energy or focus as this slander round is designed to take your energy away from the next dream act attempts, but do make it known. You will be making a stand not only against salnder, but this whole industry of salnder in general. Bringing it public will bring your supporters and 99% of America out on your side. Americans hate it when folks levy falsehoods about others. Debate him, if he doesn't or cowers away, just make video clip presentations on your challenge and statements (I often wonder why you don't release video clips from time to time). Keep making it known that you have challenged him to debate publically and that his cowardice, which is the same cowardice that his father exhibited (you don't have to say that-those are my words), makes his accusations slander.

    2. In whatever statement you make, be sure to highlight that this is the first time you have heard the complaint. We would like to know why he isn't man enough to personally bring the complaint to you, in person? If he truly had intentions other than slander why wouldn't he come to YOU to find out about the accusations? People who are looking to resolve things, or find out about their validity do this. They avoid it when it is slander. Remember the discussion to be had should really be turned to Foxmans behavior, since after all, he brought it up. (to try and limit your influence on the collectivist backed dream acts.)

    3. In whatever statement you make be sure to methodically and in a chill way pick apart everything he said and why he said it. What purpose it has in a startegy of theirs and how it relates to abe foxman.

    4. Be sure to mention in general terms how Foxman is doing this in an attempt to take away attention from his Armenian holocaust denial.

    5. remeber his strategy is to get you to emotionally focus on his hypocrisy, don't let him do that. He gains power this way.

    Why keep the ball bouncing in your court? Noone wants to be amember of his racist country club anyways.

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    Whoever wrote the Hit piece was so far off base. I come from a multi cultural family and am insulted by what they say.

    Too bad their little plan of throwing our attentions to their pointless and baseless diatribe did not work. WE DEFEATED DREAM ACT AGAIN!
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    I was surfing and found this blog interesting, what do you think W?

    Let's look for defamation to file lawsuits
    I think we should pay attention to what is being said in places like talk shows. If there is anything that can be considered a defamation of us, we should record it and contact the Anti-Defamation League to file lawsuits against the talk show hosts. Do you agree?
    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showt ... hp?t=14715

    It is just as important to fight defamation to change public opinions as it is to lobby. Public opinions have as much impact on legislation as lobbying.

    With the help of Anti-Defamation League, I think the cost should not be too high.
    Anything that is a defamation against legal high-skilled immigrants or just legal immigrants counts. It does not have to be against IV specifically.

    I have filed a lawsuit and won a settlement before. It is a good feeling to win a lawsuit or a settlement.
    But what if PG turns the tables and show all the bad things we say about them here? I do not think we can sue over ignorant opinions - they may say frivolus lawsuit and make us pay. At least clean up this board before we do this.
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    The ADL are a bunch of cry babies- WAAAH!....WAAAH! They are just mad because ALIPAC speaks the truth about the illegal alien criminal invasion.
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