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    BOTTOM LINE: Why is our Government giving and green cards to any foreign nationals who are in our country illegally? Why are they not forced to depart and apply for green cards from outside of the country??? The report above indicates its an allmost common practice to give green cards to illegal aliens!!!
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    Can we find any evidence or article predating these NEW REVELATIONS this year in 2008 about this info?

    If these articles are the BREAKING NEWS about this NEW DISCOVERY, we may well be looking at a behind the scenes executive order from the hijackers that have control of our Executive Branch.

    Could be SPP rule by bureaucratic decree.


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    Program helps illegal immigrants get citizenship while police fight crime

    http://www.wsbt.com/news/local/21313324.html
    Please help save America for our children and grandchildren... they are counting on us. THEY DESERVE the goodness of AMERICA not to be given to those who are stealing our children's future! ... and a congress who works for THEM!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeezil
    BOTTOM LINE: Why is our Government giving and green cards to any foreign nationals who are in our country illegally? Why are they not forced to depart and apply for green cards from outside of the country??? The report above indicates its an allmost common practice to give green cards to illegal aliens!!!
    IN THE PAST THEY ALWAYS HAD TO LEAVE AND COME BACK IN. BUT HERE IS THE CLINCER. THEY DID NOT HAVE TO LEAVE AND WAIT TO BE LET IN. THEY COULD APPLY FOR THEIR GREEN CARD AND REMAIN IN THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY AS LONG AS THEY HAD A SPONSOR.

    THEN IF THEY WERE APPROVED THEY HAD TO TAKE A SHORT TRIP OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY....ONE DAY WOULD SUFFICE....AND RE-ENTER. MANY WENT TO THE CONSULATE IN CANADA TO DO THIS AS IT WAS CLOSER FOR SOME.

    SO IT LOOKS LIKE FOR AWHILE THEY DID NOT HAVE TO LEAVE AND COME BACK IN. BUT BIG DEAL. THEY ONLY HAD TO LEAVE FOR A MINUTE ANYWAY.
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    They are just now going to be exposed....maybe

    Wonderful....This is giant mess / It is in the government's best interest if we are guessing.

    It seems that it is a misdemeanor if a green card holder changes address and doesn't report it within 10 days.

    How many green card holders are there now? Who check on the addresses?
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    Illegal entry is a felony. Going out of status is a misdemeanor.

    Some are adjusting their status from illegal alien or out of status to Green Card/Permanent Resident Card holder with (legal status), and after 5 years here with legal status and conditions on exiting the US, they apply for citizenship/naturalization.

    http://www.usimmigrationsupport.org/greencard.html

    There are several different ways to qualify for a Green Card and a person may have several choices for how to apply. For example, a person may qualify a Green Card through employment but also qualify for a Green Card through a relative
    In other words, anchor baby/spouse... They have hospital bills, utility bills, bank statements... all showing that they have been in the US long enough.

    All these Green Card holders can try for the 1.3 million citizenship slots. They've been coming in since 1986 so lots of them are trying to apply for citizenship.

    Until recently, green cards did not have expiration dates. They just went out of status and kept using that old green card.

    .foreignborn.com
    Cards issued since 1989 have an expiration date on the front of the card that indicates a 10-year validity.

    Do I need to renew my Green Card if it was issued between 1979 and 1988 but does not have an expiration date?

    No. Green Cards issued between 1979 and 1988 do not have expiration dates and do not need to be renewed at this time. USCIS will develop a plan for replacing these cards at a future time.

    http://www.usimmigrationsupport.org/gre ... newal.html

    Older Green Card Versions: The United States Permanent Resident Card commonly knows as a "Green Card", has had several different version and official names over the years, such as: Form AR-3, Form I-151 and Form I-551. If you hold any of these cards, you should renew your Green Card and obtain the new version.

    Green Card with No Expiration Date: It is not mandatory to renew your current Green Card if it does not have an expiration date, but it might be recommended if you have an older version.

    http://www.usimmigrationsupport.org/cit ... ation.html

    For Citizenship:

    Eligibility Requirements: All naturalization applicants must demonstrate good moral character. Other naturalization requirements may be modified or waived for certain applicants, such as spouses of U.S. Citizens or individuals currently serving in the United States military.

    Additional requirements include:
    A period of continuous residence and physical presence in the United States
    The ability to read, write and speak English
    Good moral character
    Knowledge of the principles of the U.S. Constitution
    Favorable disposition towards the United States
    Pass the United States Citizenship Test


    Eligibility for U.S. Citizenship
    For basic eligibility to become a naturalized U.S. citizen, you must first a spend at least five years as a legal permanent resident of the United States
    , during which you did not take any trips abroad for more than six months, and were present in the United States for not less than half of the entire period (two-and-a-half years). Additional factors, such as marriage to a U.S. citizen, may affect eligibility for citizenship. The USCIS provides an online eligibility worksheet to help people determine their eligibility.

    Generally speaking, to qualify for citizenship, you must:

    Be a lawful permanent U.S. resident;

    Be 18 years of age or older;

    Be a permanent resident for not less than five years. (If a person obtained permanent residence through marriage to a U.S. citizen, they may be eligible for naturalization in three years if the couple has been married for 3 years, if the spouse was a citizen during that entire period, and if the couple are still living in marital unity);

    Have resided for not less than three months in the state where the petition was filed;

    Be physically present in the United States for at least one half of the five years (or one half of three if spouse is a citizen), with no absences longer than six months;

    Have resided continuously within the United States from the date the petition was filed to the time of admission to citizenship;

    Have been a person of good moral character for the five years of residence;

    Have an elementary level of reading and writing English. (Exceptions to this rule exist for persons over fifty, in the US for 20 years or more as a permanent resident; and for persons over 55 , in the US for 15 years as a permanent resident); and

    Have a basic knowledge of the fundamentals of U.S. government and history. (This requirement can be waived for people over 65 and have been permanent resident for 20 years.)


    Visas are applied for from outside of the US and before entry. They have immigrant visas (permanent resident visas) and non-immigrant visas (temporary). Family immigration and marriage visas are issued.
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    This practice may have been going on for at least a decade. I found the following statement in a Mark Kirkorian article in 1997:

    The INS is now able to track how many of the people receiving green cards were already living here illegally. Astonishingly, more than one-fifth — 22 percent — of legal immigrants were, in fact, illegal immigrants using the system to become legal.
    The full article is at this link:
    http://www.cis.org/articles/1997/msk2-16-97.html
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    I think it's a loophole that has been around for a long time and the only reason for the surge in applications is because they now fear being sent out of the country. Why pay application fees when you can stay for free.

    In the case of the dispicable human in this article, he had an anchor baby and applied. If he committed the other felonies as a juvenile, he could have that expunged/sealed and Immigration would probably never know the difference.

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    US Citizenship and Immigration Svc.

    Administrative Decisions

    http://www.uscis.gov/uscis-ext-templati ... ameset.jsp

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    This site has most frequently asked questions.

    http://www.vdare.com/mann/faq.htm


    Juan Mann’s Frequently Asked Questions About Immigration and the Law

    By Juan Mann

    [VDARE.com note: Thanks to the efforts of immigrationist advocacy groups, the immigrationist press, and immigrationist politicians, it’s difficult to get a straight answer on what the law is. We’ve seen Bush administration officials claim that Section 245(i) was not an amnesty for illegals. (It was.) Police officers claiming that “Illegal immigration is not a crime. It is. The English language is twisted in outrageous ways to serve the cause of immigration, as when President Bush called illegals “hardworking citizens who are willing to walk 400 miles of desert in blistering heat to find work.â€
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