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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by roundabout
    hardline wrote,
    sigh...
    Even if your assertion is correct (read it for youself), it still has to be sold (or we can stay as we are). How better to take a good look at ALL that has gone into this present state of affairs (and I have)?

    Let the politicians stand up and say they need no amnesty (they don't have to), that they are covered. In the meantime this twist of irony goes along ways into looking at the political class, illegal immigration and our Constitution, and the rule of law (there is no law now).

    The irony in this idea of an amnesty for politicians is brilliant. It sends a message that one side or the other is way off base (they both collude) Considering the poll numbers for Congress, it would seem that the people have possession of the hill.

    Just imagine the headlines on the news, "The people offer Amnesty to Congress critters."
    NO ONE takes this news harder than me my friend. They are all protected and do not need any amnesty for any of their actions.

    The people in this string are as sharp as anyone in Alipack and as sharp as any one I have chatted with on the net. I miss Hylander_1314 but he had to take a break from all this.

    We all have found and posted fantastic information here and else where attempting to point out and validate the usurpation's questioning "how can congress and POTUS act as if there is no Constitution at all?" I won't post a long point here because I have before but I know things like this take time to sink in...well at least for me. Thanks to Bruce Ray I finally get it.

    There is no Congress...there is no Constitution in power and every thing the POTUS does now is under the protection of the "State of Emergency" act and laws and this has been since 1933. He is an "Executive order" dictator supreme and there for has done nothing illegitimate.

    I know how hard this is to stomach. But this is the bottom root problem of the usurping tree. How long will it take for a movement to start to put a stop to the numerous usurping State of Emergency acts now invalidating the Constitution? We have been tricked from with in by our own laws.

    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?ti ... _emergency
    "According to the United States Constitution, Article 1, only Congress shall make federal law. However, since the War and Emergency Powers Act of 1933, every president has usurped lawmaking powers. Their 'laws' are called Executive Orders (EOs). These EOs, not our Constitution, are what is governing America today. The War and Emergency Powers Act enables ... the president to declare a national emergency, and thereby become a dictator."[1]

    "Presidents can also carefully choose their words and declare a war on anything, in order to give them dictatorial control. For example, the War on Drugs makes it possible to use federal authorities, such as FBI, FEMA, BATF, and the military against American citizens. A well-known example is Waco. Another example is Hurricane Opal. After Florida was declared a nation emergency, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) arrived on the scene and residents were placed under marshal law (restricted to the point of not going outside their door). When the federal government does this, it is going against the Constitution. The War and Emergency Powers Act is an unconstitutional act on the part of our government, created so that presidents can bypass Congress, and do whatever they choose."[2]

    "It also makes it possible to do away with posse comitatus in cases of 'emergency'. Posse comitatus is what protects American citizens from the military being used against them."[3]
    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?ti ... _emergency
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarum
    Yes, the sigh thing. NO AMNESTY for anybody! I was feeling pretty hopeless about our political process until Governor Brewer woke me up and gave me hope again. However, even my own family tells me that I am wasting my time coming here because it will make no difference. But thanks to threads like this one I get clarification and education that I did not take the time to research these things out myself.

    I will be watching the political pages for help with voting. I am so weary of choosing the lesser of two evils but do not care to vote for unknowns with big bucks either - didn't we just do that on the national level?

    I have never been a single issue voter - but this is the year for hope and change alright.
    I mean truly...WE ALL SEE that the government is no long a Republic government. It is like a band of pirates doing what ever they want when ever they want. How can POTUS act as a Marxist socialistic dictator and get away with it if we were truly in a Constitutional law society? If the treason's we see each and everyday were truly under the law of a Constitutional government there would be anarchy in the military over it. And in fact there are men facing court marshal now over it. Please consider looking at the information about the State of Emergency laws...

    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?ti ... _emergency

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