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    Labeling It's Own Citizens as Domestic Terrorists - The Ultimate Betrayal by the Federal Government


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    When a young man or woman joins the United States military, one of the first things they do before even being shipped off to boot camp is take the loyalty oath. "I (state your name) do solemnly swear to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same." The oath of enlistment goes on to say that the service member will follow orders of the president and the officers appointed over them per the regulations of the uniformed code of military justice. Most service members, at least I hope anyway, understand that there are illegal orders, and any order that goes against the Constitution is, in fact, an illegal order.

    This oath means something to military personnel because most of us joined to defend the rights and liberties of all Americans, even those that don't share our views. Sadly, many people have been inundated with the belief that the Constitution is an oppressive document that stands in the way of government creating the perfect paradise. In fact, in a report called Rightwing extremism: Current economic and political climate fueling resurgence in radicalization and recruitment the government calls anyone who refers to the Constitution and the limits of government power a domestic terrorist. Anyone who owns a gun is a terrorist, anyone who didn't vote for Obama is a racist terrorist and anyone who is buying more than seven days of food at a time is now even referred to as a potential terrorist. Veterans are potential terrorists, probably because the government fears them finding out how they have been used, abused and lied to. Also, those who hold anti-abortion views are domestic terrorists.


    Many of you may be wondering what the significance of all of this is. Harry Reid just referred to the Bundy ranch protesters as domestic terrorists and claimed that he was told a special task force is being set up to "deal with them." A task force, mind you that is not loyal to the U.S. Constitution, but has likely been beaten down with the same lies and propaganda that is published in that fallacious report.



    I don't know about the rest of you, but I have seen the way the U.S. government deals with terrorists. The fact that they are referring to their own people as possible terrorists should concern all of us.

    How did we get to the point where a sleazy politician like Harry Reid, who for days now, reports have been surfacing exposing his involvement in this federal land grab, can get away with it and call average citizens domestic terrorists? I will tell you how, but you are not going to like it America. You became fat, lazy, and uninterested in defending the very liberties that were passed onto you from previous generations. You let the politics of envy, employed by selfish radicals and their lies; beat you into submission out of fear of appearing "uncompassionate" or uncaring. You let the politics of fear overwhelm your senses as little by little mental associations were created between what you fear the most and the unknown, until the point came when you let the government convince you that your neighbor shouldn't be trusted if he questions the motives of big government. In other words America, you went to sleep and passed on your responsibility to someone else who didn't share your same values.

    The hour is later and much darker than most care to know. Many in America see no problem with the federal government that has the intestinal fortitude to surround one man and his family with three hundred armed troops, and then lie by claiming it's about taxes and turtles. There are so many other ways this situation could have been dealt with folks, especially if Cliven Bundy was truly in the wrong. They intentionally set out to spark a confrontation so they could identify the resistors as domestic terrorists. Everything they need to eliminate the opposition is written into law or policy. The Patriot Act, The National Defense Authorization Act, both give the government broad powers when dealing with domestic terrorism. Some of us realized many years ago that someday those powers would be turned on us; others went to sleep, allowing the government to classify us as domestic terrorists for being concerned about such a thing.

    This is the ultimate betrayal to all those who served in this nation's uniform. They swore to defend the liberties of American citizens, and some gave their lives doing so while others showed up at the Bundy ranch to do it again. There is nothing in the Constitution that grants the government the right to do anything outside of its delegated authority folks. I know one thing for certain, sicking 300 armed federal agents on one man, from an unaccountable bureaucracy, is not in the job description of the federal government. If you are a liberal and can't see this, then there is no hope for you. If you can't understand that this power will turn on you the minute you disagree with them, then you get what you deserve. In my honest opinion, anything that happens from this point on is squarely in the hands of all of those on the right or the left that sat on the sidelines and did nothing.

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    BLM: We are Worried Cliven Bundy Might Have Prescriptive Rights & He Might Use that Defense in Court

    Ben Swann April 16, 2014
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    In this ongoing story surrounding cattle rancher Cliven Bundy, there are a series of questions media has ignored. For instance, in the 20 years Bundy hasn't been paying his fees, why hasn't he been taken to court? Why this year, spend nearly $1,000,000 of taxpayer money to round up 400 cattle that ultimately have to be returned? Why didn't the BLM just place a lien on the cattle rather than attempting to take them by force and then auction them off? The Bureau of Land Management has suffered a huge black eye this week because of their response to the Bundy situation. Perhaps though, there is a reason the BLM chose force over the courts.
    In an exclusive interview with Benswann.com, Montana cattle rancher Todd Devlin says the BLM is now considering new ways of dealing with the Cliven Bundy situation. Devlin is not just a Montana cattle rancher, but is also a County Commissioner in Prairie County Montana. He has also worked with the Department of Interior, having taught workshops for the agency in the past. Monday, Devlin reached out to his contacts in the Department of the Interior to find out why the Bureau of Land Management has refused to work with Bundy rather than simply attempting to run over him.
    Among the questions Devlin asked of the BLM, "Is it possible that this guy (Cliven Bundy) has prescriptive rights?" The response from top officials at the BLM, "We are worried that he might, and he might use that defense."
    So what exactly are prescriptive rights? Prescriptive right to property is an easement that gives some one the right to use land owned by someone else for a particular purpose. An example is using a path through Party A's land to get to your land; a prescriptive easement is allowed which gives the user the right to get to his land through A's property.
    In most states, if a trespass or use of land occurs regularly for at least 5 years without the "owner" of the land taking legal action, prescriptive rights come into play. Because Bundy stopped paying his grazing fees to the BLM in 1993, but continued to use the land for over 20 years, it is possible he now has prescriptive rights to the land. That might explain why the BLM has not taken this issue to court and never bothered to file a lien against the cattle.
    Granted, there have been court actions over the years. In 1998, a federal judge issued a permanent injunction against Bundy, ordering him to remove his cattle from the federal lands. He lost an appeal to the San Francisco 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. Yet, the "trespass cattle" remained on the BLM land. In fact, it took until August of 2013 for a court order to be issued saying Bundy had 45 days to remove his cattle from federal land. 15 years went by from the time of the last court case over the cattle until the BLM attempted to remove the livestock.
    Of course, Bundy has not made the claim that he will not pay the fees, he simply says he will not pay those fees to the BLM because he doesn't recognize federal authority over the land. Bundy has said that in the past that he would pay fees to Clarke County, Nevada, though Clarke County has refused to accept them. The BLM has insisted that Bundy owes $1.1 million dollars in grazing fees for his trespass cattle.
    "The actual number is probably around $200,000. The $1.1 million claimed by the BLM is probably mostly interest and penalties for trespass cattle." says Devlin, who goes on to say that it is unlikely that Clarke County would be able to collect those penalties.
    When Devlin reached out to the BLM, he suggested that the federal agency just allow Bundy to pay the fees to the county rather than continuing with these aggressive tactics to confiscate his cattle.
    "Why don't you just let him pay them there (Clarke County)? I got a call back from the liaison saying 'Yes, pursue it.'" Devlin reached out to contacts in Nevada to get that process moving forward. If that were to happen, Clarke County could collect the grazing fees and if it desired to do so could hand those fees over to the BLM.
    Finally, Devlin says instead of allowing the situation with Bundy's cattle to grow completely out of control, the BLM could have simply placed a lien on the cattle in the first place. Of course, that lien might have been rejected in court if Bundy were able to demonstrate those prescriptive rights. Then again, the courts so far have sided with the government; therefore, it is even more baffling why the lien wasn't placed on the livestock.
    Days after the BLM has claimed they will stand down, they are now reportedly considering a lien on the cattle,
    "I asked why you didn't put a lien against the cattle?" Devlin asked the BLM. "They hadn't thought about that, but they are considering it now."

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    BOOM: The Truth About the BLM – Bundy Ranch Dispute Explained

    By Clash Daily / 18 April 2014 / 0 Comments


    Published on Apr 12, 2014
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    Quote Originally Posted by AirborneSapper7 View Post
    Just In: Obama Accused By Congressman Of Illegal Action At Bundy Ranch

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    He cites a severe violation of U.S. Code -- 43 U.S.C. Section 1733, Subsection C
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    Harry Reid calls Cliven Bundy supporters “domestic terrorists.” Do you agree?

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    Yes, Cliven Bundy supporters are fringe groups who pose a danger. 3.05% (5 votes)

    No, the federal government is far more of a threat to liberty than Bundy and his supporters. 96.95% (159 votes

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    Oath Keepers Pour into Nevada from Across America to Support Cliven Bundy

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    Despite the fact that Senator Harry Reid has called these Patriots “domestic terrorists”, the militia members and Oath Keepers there to support Cliven Bundy have peacefully assembled in Bunkerville, Nevada for more than a week to protect the rancher from armed federal land grabbers. Although the BLM has allegedly backed off citing “safety concerns,” the surly Senator Reid (who has incidentally been busted with his hand in the $5 million solar power cookie jar) commented, “Well, it’s not over. We can’t have an American people that violate the law and then just walk away from it. So it’s not over.”
    Because of statements like Reid’s, a request was made by Oath Keeper’s founder Stewart Rhodes for reinforcements.

    Interestingly, shortly after the request for support was made, the Oath Keepers website suffered a mysterious malfunction. Members of the alternative media quickly picked up the reins and made certain that the request was publicized.
    In response, Oath Keepers from as far away as Alaska are answering the call put out by founder Stewart Rhodes.

    Below is the latest audio update from Stewart in Bunkerville, Nevada via Jim White with Northwest Liberty News.



    Today the Bundys are hosting a Patriot Party celebration for their supporters.

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    40,000 OATH KEEPERS VOW TO BACK NEVADA RANCHER AGAINST FEDS

    Posted on April 11, 2014 by PatriotsBillboard

    OATH KEEPERS VOW TO STAND BY BUNDY RANCH IN CATTLE DISPUTE WITH FEDS. OATH KEEPERS IS CALLING ON ANYONE WHO CAN MAKE IT TO BUNKERSVILLE, NEVADA TO PEACEFULLY STAND WITH CLIVEN BUNDY AND HIS FAMILY AND TO STAND UP FOR THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE AGAINST A CORRUPT GOVERNMENT THAT WOULD SUBVERT US ALL

    Melissa Melton
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    Things are escalating quickly in the public land use dispute between the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and a 67-year-old cattle rancher and his family.While Bundy’s family has grazed cattle on the land in question since the 1870s, the state decided to officially outlaw cattle grazing in the area in an Agenda 21-esque move back in 1998 under the guise of protecting the environment for the endangered desert tortoise.

    Now BLM says that, not only has Bundy has refused to pay the federal government for “grazing rights” for the last 20 years, but they have officially declared that his cattle are now “trespassing” on what is supposed to be public land.

    As reported yesterday, apparently that’s worth calling out a fully militarized federal force, including nine helicopters and a multitude of agents and even snipers, to descend on Bundy’s ranch to impound his cattle.

    This picture was posted on The Truth About Guns blog April 8th by author Robert Farago: Bundy’s son Dave has already been arrested, reportedly for filming feds outside the BLM’s designated “First Amendment Area” (the feds were even thoughtful enough to put up a sign for it).

    Wednesday, video surfaced of protesters, including Bundy family members, being tased, thrown to the ground and threatened with K-9s by BLM officers.

    In response to the mounting dispute and worries this could become the next Ruby Ridge or Waco, militias from all across the country, including Texas, Montana, Utah, New Hampshire, and Florida, have mobilised to stand with the Bundy family and others protesting the BLM.

    Now Oath Keepers, a non-partisan association of 40,000 current serving and former military, police, and first responders who have pledged to fulfill their oaths to ‘defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic,’” has released a statement that they, too, will stand by the Bundys against the corrupt actions of this government.

    It reads in part:

    This is not about cattle. This is about power, and the trampling of rights. It’s about a systemic power grab and abuse of power by the federal government as it runs roughshod over the rights of honest, hard-working rural Americans and over the rights of all the Western states. This is not an isolated incident. It is but the latest in a long train of abuses aimed at subjecting rural Americans to absolute despotism while destroying the property rights, economy, and independence of the rural West, in particular, and eventually wiping out all of rural America. This is an attack on all of the West, which is why patriotic legislators and lawmen from all over the West are answering the call to defend it.

    And it is not just ranching that is under attack. It is also mining, farming, logging, fishing, oil and gas, and any other industry that uses natural resources or the land. This is a full spectrum, frontal assault on the rural West. Ultimately, it is about bankrupting and impoverishing independent rural Americans to bring on a planned depopulation of the West.

    This is truly a range war, and it is being waged by all three branches of the federal government, including complicit federal judges who “make it legal” through their willful rulings that strip away any meaningful redress or shelter for ranchers and farmers who have worked the land for generations only to now be told that they can no longer do so because of one endangered species or another. Entire regions of the West are being shut down and impoverished using this tactic.

    In this case, the Bundy family has run cattle on that same range since 1877 and they used to have fifty-two neighboring ranchers who did the same. Now, using the Desert Tortoise as the weapon of choice, the federal government has run all the other ranchers in Clark County, Nevada out of business, and Cliven Bundy truly is the last man standing. And it is also about all Nevadans being “prohibited” from using their own “Public Land” and the fact that the Feds were imposing their will over the state and it’s people at gun-point.

    Unless We the People begin to take a meaningful stand now, in full support of our patriotic state public servants who are willing to lead us, the domestic enemies of the Constitution will not stop until the West is a land of ghost towns, devoid of people, and we are all crammed into city slums, totally dependent and weak, with no protection of our rights, like third-world urbanized peons under the arbitrary and capricious control of corrupt dictators.

    The statement also called out Nevada Governor Sandoval — who has publicly criticized the BLM for “intimidation” and trampling upon Nevadans’ fundamental rights with so-called “First Amendment areas” but done little else — for not showing up in person himself and ordering the Nevada Highway Patrol to stand between the people and an “out of control” BLM.

    Nevada State Assemblywoman Michele Fiore showed up yesterday to stand vigil, saying, “we are here because the Governor is not.”

    Oath Keepers is calling on anyone who can make it to Bunkersville, Nevada to peacefully stand with Cliven Bundy and his family and to stand up for the Constitution of the United States of America and the rights of the people against a corrupt government that would subvert us all: We therefore call on all liberty-loving Americans who can possibly make it to Bunkerville, Nevada to join us in this vigil, NOW, in direct support of oath-keeping Western lawmakers and lawmen as they stand guard over the rights of the people and begin to push back against federal abuse.

    Come take a meaningful stand, in a real fight where it counts the most – in our states. This is far, far more important than any trip toWashington D.C. to wave signs and yell at a deaf and blind Congress, White House, or Supreme Court. This is where the real battle is, and where you belong.

    This is where you can make a real difference, and begin the restoration of the Republic, from the bottom up.

    READ OATH KEEPERS FULL STATEMENT HERE
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    In other news, Natural News has just reported that the BLM is cashing is hardcore to the tune of millions on fracking operations in the very land from which they are trying to evict the Bundys.

    (Hat tip: Jason Rivera)

    Melissa Melton is a writer, researcher, and analyst for The Daily Sheeple and a co-creator of Truthstream Media.

    Wake the flock up!


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    WATCH Bundy, Rand Paul Respond To Harry Reid “Domestic Terrorist” Comment

    Bundy, Paul fight back.



    Cliven Bundy and Senator Rand Paul appeared on “Hannity” the other night to respond to Harry Reid’s latest unfounded outburst:



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    40,000 OATH KEEPERS VOW TO BACK NEVADA RANCHER AGAINST FEDS
    That breaks down to 5 U.S. Army Infantry Divisions
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    BLM Whistleblower: Reid Bunkerville and the Military Industrial Complex at Bundy Ranch

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