Thread: Can someone post proof please

Originally Posted by SOSADFORUS

I just checked out the above link and was shocked when I found this, as I watched the Glenn Beck show and never noticed this scrolling across the bottom...I am shocked and still do not understand what it is about and what the Huckster was doing.



I find it very offensive for Glenn Beck to be scrolling the message Paul is Dead, Paul is Dead, Paul is Dead on the bottom of the screen during the interview with Ron Paul.


I think he should make it clear that he wishes no ill will to Dr. Ron Paul. His interview I thought was fair on the surface but he did take the interview into the typical conspiracy camp.


I would like to know why this guy Huckabee thought it appropriate to make this statement that was scrolling by during this interview? Ron Paul was right in that the threat of Theocons taking over the government is a serious threat to our nation. In his statement of earlier in the day he seemed a bit tired and un focused when he was hit with these off Fauxian questions.

I might add that Paul was talking about domestic threats to our nation at the moment that Huckabee's death to Paul comments are scrolling by in this video.


The subliminals are pretty obvious to most any trained observer.
I am quite disgusted with Beck for this. I am pretty much disgusted with Huckabee for his statements as well but that is politics. It is a dirty game. Here is the video.

http://www.nolanchart.com/article598.html

Check it out and see what you think! Is this true? Is this a Joke? This is not cool I don't care who it is.

SoSad, that is very funny! What Huckabillie was referencing was a thing that the Beatles did back in the 1960's with backward masking and continuing the rumor that Paul McCartney was dead. I can't remember exactly what song it was but sposedly if you played it backwards it would say "Paul is dead, Paul is dead, Paul is dead" quite an amazing coincidence that it scrolled at the same time........or is it?

Originally Posted by kniggit

Originally Posted by SOSADFORUS

I just checked out the above link and was shocked when I found this, as I watched the Glenn Beck show and never noticed this scrolling across the bottom...I am shocked and still do not understand what it is about and what the Huckster was doing.



I find it very offensive for Glenn Beck to be scrolling the message Paul is Dead, Paul is Dead, Paul is Dead on the bottom of the screen during the interview with Ron Paul.


I think he should make it clear that he wishes no ill will to Dr. Ron Paul. His interview I thought was fair on the surface but he did take the interview into the typical conspiracy camp.


I would like to know why this guy Huckabee thought it appropriate to make this statement that was scrolling by during this interview? Ron Paul was right in that the threat of Theocons taking over the government is a serious threat to our nation. In his statement of earlier in the day he seemed a bit tired and un focused when he was hit with these off Fauxian questions.

I might add that Paul was talking about domestic threats to our nation at the moment that Huckabee's death to Paul comments are scrolling by in this video.


The subliminals are pretty obvious to most any trained observer.
I am quite disgusted with Beck for this. I am pretty much disgusted with Huckabee for his statements as well but that is politics. It is a dirty game. Here is the video.

http://www.nolanchart.com/article598.html

Check it out and see what you think! Is this true? Is this a Joke? This is not cool I don't care who it is.

SoSad, that is very funny! What Huckabillie was referencing was a thing that the Beatles did back in the 1960's with backward masking and continuing the rumor that Paul McCartney was dead. I can't remember exactly what song it was but sposedly if you played it backwards it would say "Paul is dead, Paul is dead, Paul is dead" quite an amazing coincidence that it scrolled at the same time........or is it?

OH thank you for clarifing that and explaining it to me, I could not imagine Beck doing something like that , it is not a very funny.But i did not know about the Beatles thing Thanks again, I feel much better.

Originally Posted by butterbean

Originally Posted by Bren4824

Originally Posted by butterbean

Originally Posted by usanevada

The actual facts are that Mitt Romney is not on the member
rolls of the CFR

I still have not seen proof and I was on a very
hard core Ron Paul site with people that do nothing
but research all this stuff

I was told by people there that Romney is not a member

So we can dispel that rumor and smear right now

As a "rule" any member of the CFR that is running for office or is elected into office, takes their name off the CFR roster. If you look at the list of candidates now, I bet you won't find them listed on the roster.

As you can see.........This is not true. The person did not post the link for this info. I will ask him to do so, then post it here.

David Rockefeller, Chairman Emeritus
William Clinton -- CFR
Albert Gore, Jr. -- CFR
Warren Christopher -- CFR
Bruce Babbitt -- CFR
Henry Cisneros -- CFR
Donna Shalala -- CFR
Vernon E. Jordan, Jr. -- CFR
Henry A. Kissinger -- CFR
Steve G. Breyer ---CFR
Ruth B. Ginsburg -- CFR

Laurence H. Silberman, U.S. Court of Appeals, Wash., DC Circuit -- CFR
George Stephanopoulos, Director, Communications -- CFR
Madeleine Albright, UN Amabassador -- CFR
John D. Negroponte (Mexico) -- CFR
Alan Greenspan, Chairman -- CFR

UNITED STATES CONGRESS -- SENATORS:
Christopher J. Dodd (D-CT) -- CFR
Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) -- CFR
Bob Graham (D-FL) -- CFR
Joseph I. Lieberman (D-CT) -- CFR
George J. Mitchell (D-ME) -- CFR
Charles S. Robb (D-VA) -- CFR
John D. Rockefeller, IV (D-WV) -- CFR

UNITED STATES CONGRESS -- REPRESENTATIVES:
Howard L. Berman (D-CA) -- CFR
Richard A. Gephardt (D-MO) -- CFR
Robert T. Matsui (D-CA) -- CFR
Eleanor Homes Norton (D-DC) -- CFR
Charles B. Rangel (D-NY) -- CFR
Patricia Schroeder (D-CO) -- CFR

I DO KNOW THAT BILL CLINTON DID NOTHAVE HIS NAME APPEAR ON THE ROSTER WHEN HE RAN.

Butterbean is right. If any member runs for office, they are taken off the member roster. They then serve their term, then are put back on the roster. They do this because the CFR states they are not a political organization (wich is a huge lie).
With them it's, "Now You See Em, Now You Don't.

Excuse me as you can see most of these people are in office as we speak...some even on the supreme court!

Sosadforus: I think I just got onboard for Ron Paul. Your links to the eagleforum has me now informed about the greatest threat this country has ever known and that is the North American Union. I now want to read Tancredo's book, In Mortal Danger. Tancredo was desperately trying to inform the people of this conspiracy, and that is exactly what it is. I have to wonder why he endorsed Romney, a member of CFR, I can't believe he would do something he thinks would harm our future.
That being said, the only one not a member of CRF appears to be Ron Paul, so count me in.
Leading the fight is Lou Dobbs. This is a good video for those just learning about this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T74VA3xU ... re=related

Welcome aboard, Martha!!

I guess denial didn't sit to well with you after all.

The video you posted is a great primer on what's happening, and I thank Lou Dobbs for having the temerity and fortitude to broadcast it.

Now that you've been 'un-brainwashed', get with the people you know LOCALLY and educate them. We're going to need all the help we can get.

Originally Posted by Martha

Sosadforus: I think I just got onboard for Ron Paul. Your links to the eagleforum has me now informed about the greatest threat this country has ever known and that is the North American Union. I now want to read Tancredo's book, In Mortal Danger. Tancredo was desperately trying to inform the people of this conspiracy, and that is exactly what it is. I have to wonder why he endorsed Romney, a member of CFR, I can't believe he would do something he thinks would harm our future.
That being said, the only one not a member of CRF appears to be Ron Paul, so count me in.
Leading the fight is Lou Dobbs. This is a good video for those just learning about this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T74VA3xU ... re=related

" Martha" I am so glad you are learning about the North American Union, so many people are ignoreing one of the greatest threats to this nation and a major part of our Illegal Immigration.

To clarify something though, I have not found any evidence Romney is a member of the CRF, he has been connected with them but not a member, I am still looking for more information. I was also stressed about Tancredo support for Romney, and in my opinion I think Tom backed him because he feels he has the best chance to win, of course with the hopes he will stick to his campaign promises on illegal immigration.

I myself am just weary of flip floppers. Thompson is a member of the CFR, he is talking a hard line on illegal immigration but the CFR is a big problem for me.

I believe this country needs alot of changes to make a difference and although illegal immigration is #1 for me (because I believe we need to stop it to stop NAU), I believe Paul is advocating for the most changes and not the same old crap that is destroying our country.

That said all we can do is educate each other, put our own priorities first (what we think is the most inportant changes are country needs)and pick who we think is the best person and the one we have the most trust in.

I am still hoping there is something to Lou Dobbses push to get people to re-register as an independant...I trust Lou Dobbs!! until then all we can do is educate ourselves and choose according to what in our heart is right.

Yes read "In mortal Danger" great book, but it was written by "Pat Buchanan" Alot about the North American Union.

also...Lou Dobbs. "War on the Middle Class" is an excellent book

Also for the North American Union is Corsi's new book " The Late Great USA" the best on the NAU!

Education is the key to knowlege, especially if everyone truely wants to understand what has to be done to save our country, and an open mind is important so you are able to connect all you learn.

GOOD LUCK!! and happy reading... Martha

I did not have a chance to read all the post here and if these links have already been posted i apologize.

http://www.knowyourrino.com/general/...der_agenda.htm
The above link does list Romney as an "affiliate" of CFR evidently he has written articles for, and are posted at, the CFR website.

http://www.foreignaffairs.org/200707...hallenges.html
The above is an article Romney wrote for CFR.

...In the aftermath of World War II and with the coming of the Cold War, members of "the greatest generation" united America and the free world around shared values and actions that changed history. They unified U.S. military and security efforts, creating the Department of Defense and the National Security Council. They rethought U.S.
approaches to the world, building the U.S. Agency for International Development, the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative, and the Peace Corps. They forged alliances, such as NATO, that magnified the power of freedom and created a world trading system that helped launch the greatest expansion of economic and political freedom and development in history. Our times call for equally bold leadership and for a renewed sense of service and shared sacrifice among Americans and our allies around the world.

Today, the nation's attention is focused on Iraq. All Americans want U.S. troops to come home as soon as possible. But walking away now or dividing Iraq up into parts and walking away later would present grave risks to the United States and the world. Iran could seize the Shiite south, al Qaeda could dominate the Sunni west, and Kurdish nationalism could destabilize the border with Turkey. A regional conflict could ensue, perhaps even requiring the return of U.S. troops under far worse circumstances. There is no guarantee that the new strategy pursued by General Petraeus will ultimately succeed, but the stakes are too high and the potential fallout too great to deny our military leaders and troops on the ground the resources and the time needed to give it an opportunity to succeed.

"The US agency for International Development", who pays for this no this is wrong? If we had good trade then Veterans can form companies who can through the private sector assist and train paid for by our foriegn friends not our taxes. If citizens here want to help let them fund the private sector who train and assist our foriegn friends however not by our taxes. The system now is like a Dictatorship where we are forced to pay for the UnConstitutional occupation of foriegn countries. This is not fair not all agree yet we are forced to pay.
IMO the error of the WWII aftermath was government taxation involvement, everything should have been privatized to releive the excuse for taxes from our citizens.

HUNTER CHALLENGES ROMNEY AT IOWA DEBATE
http://mychoice2008.wordpress.com/20...bate%e2%80%8f/
[quote]Presidential candidate and U.S. Congressman Duncan Hunter (R-CA) again challenged former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney on his refusal to call on his former company, Bain Capital, to drop its strategic partnership with Chinese defense contractor Huawei Technologies in a bid to buy U.S. defense contractor 3Com. At a televised Republican debate, Hunter inquired as to why Romney would not use his continued influence with Bain to terminate the proposed merger between Huawei and 3Com, an action which, according to a recent report in The Washington Times, would threaten U.S. national security...
...“As the founder of Bain Capital, Governor Romney has an obligation to utilize his influence within the company to terminate the proposed merger between 3Com and Chinese defense contractor Huawei,â€

Originally Posted by SOSADFORUS

Originally Posted by Martha

Sosadforus: I think I just got onboard for Ron Paul. Your links to the eagleforum has me now informed about the greatest threat this country has ever known and that is the North American Union. I now want to read Tancredo's book, In Mortal Danger. Tancredo was desperately trying to inform the people of this conspiracy, and that is exactly what it is. I have to wonder why he endorsed Romney, a member of CFR, I can't believe he would do something he thinks would harm our future.
That being said, the only one not a member of CRF appears to be Ron Paul, so count me in.
Leading the fight is Lou Dobbs. This is a good video for those just learning about this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T74VA3xU ... re=related

" Martha" I am so glad you are learning about the North American Union, so many people are ignoreing one of the greatest threats to this nation and a major part of our Illegal Immigration.

To clarify something though, I have not found any evidence Romney is a member of the CRF, he has been connected with them but not a member, I am still looking for more information. I was also stressed about Tancredo support for Romney, and in my opinion I think Tom backed him because he feels he has the best chance to win, of course with the hopes he will stick to his campaign promises on illegal immigration.

I myself am just weary of flip floppers. Thompson is a member of the CFR, he is talking a hard line on illegal immigration but the CFR is a big problem for me.

I am still hoping there is something to Lou Dobbses push to get people to re-register as an independant...I trust Lou Dobbs!! until then all we can do is educate ourselves and choose according to what in our heart is right.
:

I like Dobbs a great deal; but I am worried about his rallying people to re-register. I posted a local article about a week ago that said the Independents will be allowed to vote Democrat, but not Republican in the primaries. The Dems could get as many as 15,000 local votes from this maneuver. I don't understand this. Would you like me to find the article?
Another article stated that Americans in foreign countries will be able to vote over the internet, via something new they are trying in Canada. Again, they are only speaking of Democrats.

Originally Posted by Martha

Originally Posted by SOSADFORUS

Originally Posted by Martha

Sosadforus: I think I just got onboard for Ron Paul. Your links to the eagleforum has me now informed about the greatest threat this country has ever known and that is the North American Union. I now want to read Tancredo's book, In Mortal Danger. Tancredo was desperately trying to inform the people of this conspiracy, and that is exactly what it is. I have to wonder why he endorsed Romney, a member of CFR, I can't believe he would do something he thinks would harm our future.
That being said, the only one not a member of CRF appears to be Ron Paul, so count me in.
Leading the fight is Lou Dobbs. This is a good video for those just learning about this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T74VA3xU ... re=related

" Martha" I am so glad you are learning about the North American Union, so many people are ignoreing one of the greatest threats to this nation and a major part of our Illegal Immigration.

To clarify something though, I have not found any evidence Romney is a member of the CRF, he has been connected with them but not a member, I am still looking for more information. I was also stressed about Tancredo support for Romney, and in my opinion I think Tom backed him because he feels he has the best chance to win, of course with the hopes he will stick to his campaign promises on illegal immigration.

I myself am just weary of flip floppers. Thompson is a member of the CFR, he is talking a hard line on illegal immigration but the CFR is a big problem for me.

I am still hoping there is something to Lou Dobbses push to get people to re-register as an independant...I trust Lou Dobbs!! until then all we can do is educate ourselves and choose according to what in our heart is right.
:

I like Dobbs a great deal; but I am worried about his rallying people to re-register. I posted a local article about a week ago that said the Independents will be allowed to vote Democrat, but not Republican in the primaries. The Dems could get as many as 15,000 local votes from this maneuver. I don't understand this. Would you like me to find the article?
Another article stated that Americans in foreign countries will be able to vote over the internet, via something new they are trying in Canada. Again, they are only speaking of Democrats.

Would love for you to post it, I don't understand how they could possibly make a rule like this.
In Idaho we are not registered by party we can vote in the Dem or Rep, which ever one we want.\

Yes, are voting is a mess, it just is not right people come in here from another country and can cast a vote for our politicians.