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    Carly Fiorina’s Sleazy, Revealing Lie About Her Dead “Daughter”

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    Carly Fiorina’s Sleazy, Revealing Lie About Her Dead “Daughter”

    September 19, 2015 12:31 pm

    David Brooks, the New York Times columnist and Ur of conventional wisdom in corporate media, says Carly Fiorina came out of Wednesday’s gruelingly long Republican presidential debate as “the most impressive candidate,” though “her spotty record at Hewlett-Packard” makes her a better prospect for vice president.

    The standout moment in Fiorina’s performance was the revelation that she’d “buried a child due to drug addiction.”

    This is how she put it:

    “I very much hope that I am the only person on this stage who can say this. I know there are millions of Americans out there who will say the same thing: My husband, Frank, and I buried a child to drug addiction.”

    It was a “whoa” moment in an otherwise dreary exercise of “Governor Kasich, Senator Paul questions your commitment to net neutrality. What do you want to tell him?” Fiorina was personal. Straight. Human. (That last adjective being much needed in light of her sang froid takeaway salary post-HP layoff queen.)

    It was also misleading.

    The child in question was Lori Ann Fiorina — Carly’s stepdaughter. Lori Ann, who suffered a fatal overdose in 2009. She was 35.

    I don’t doubt that Carly loved Lori Ann, or that she considered her, in her heart, as her own daughter. Lori Ann, Carly’s husband Frank’s daughter from his first marriage, was 6 when Carly met her. Carly has no biological children of her own.

    But this is presidential politics. Voters have a right to the whole story, not the Twitter version. By saying she’d “buried a child” as a result of illegal drugs, the picture that popped into the millions of brains watching Wednesday night was of her child — not a stepchild — under 18, the age of, you know, a child.

    Fiorina may be evil corporate scum, but she’s not stupid. She knew what she was doing when she scripted that line, which clearly read like one of the many debate candidates practice in advance (“there you go again”): artfully threading the needle in order to politicize her grief for maximum effect.

    It was also a misleading segue. The “buried a child” line followed a brief discussion about the perils of marijuana as a gateway drug. But Lori Ann Fiorina died from alcoholism and abuse of prescription drugs, not pot.

    In court, witnesses are asked to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Why didn’t Fiorina tell the whole truth? Because it wouldn’t have made for nearly as compelling a line for an electorate unlikely to investigate the truth for themselves:

    “I buried my stepchild, my husband Frank’s daughter, to drug addiction, when she was in her thirties.”

    If this were the fact-checking website Politifact, I’m sure they’d subtract some truth points for conflating a daughter with a stepdaughter. They’re not the same, any more than a brother is the same as a brother-in-law, even if you love him like a brother.

    The age thing gets more of a pass. I’m my mother’s child even now, at age 52. Especially when she sends me a check. Coupled with the daughter/stepdaughter fudge, however, I can’t help thinking we’re looking at someone who doesn’t have a close relationship with playing things straight.

    During the same debate, Fiorina described watching an anti-abortion group’s video of “a fully formed fetus on the table, its heart beating, its legs kicking while someone says we have to keep it alive to harvest its brain.” No matter where you stand on reproductive rights, that’s a disgusting image.

    It’s also not true.

    CNN called it “true but…misleading.” Vox said it was “pure fiction…there is no video of the images.” Salon’s editor said Fiorina was “either a liar, or she’s delusional.”

    If Fiorina lies about deeply personal topics like her stepdaughter’s tragic death and abortion, how will lying play into the execution of her disturbingly forthright foreign policy agenda of refusing to engage in diplomacy with Russia and sending more arms to the Middle East?

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    "Salon’s editor said Fiorina was “either a liar, or she’s delusional.”"

    And this is what any Republican candidate will face, with the hack job progressive media launching one accusation after defaming charge after another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captainron View Post
    "Salon’s editor said Fiorina was “either a liar, or she’s delusional.”"

    And this is what any Republican candidate will face, with the hack job progressive media launching one accusation after defaming charge after another.
    Every once in awhile, they get it right, and this time they got it right about Fiorina.
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    Yale Bus. Professor EXPOSES Carly FIORINA at HP - Lawrence O’Donnell




    Published on Sep 18, 2015
    Jeffrey Sonnenfeld, a Yale School of Management professor, was mentioned by Donald Trump in his attacks on Carly Fiorina at the second GOP presidential debate. Fiorina calls Sonnenfeld a 'Clintonite.' Sonnenfeld refutes that label & says he's never worked for Hillary but has helped several GOP candidates. "She simply tries to discredit people who disagree with her."
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBTpbwtEMMk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captainron View Post
    "Salon’s editor said Fiorina was “either a liar, or she’s delusional.”"

    And this is what any Republican candidate will face, with the hack job progressive media launching one accusation after defaming charge after another.
    I agree. I don't like Florina one bit and she is a candidate I cannot support. However, that said, I think the article was wrong in lobbing those comments in an effort to make her out as a liar and/or delusional. I have two stepson who were 3 and 5 when I met their mother. In my view they are equal in my heart to my children that share my DNA. I never introduce them, or think of them, as stepchildren. They are my boys, regardless of whether we share the same blood or not. I'm sure it is very possible that Florina considered her daughter in the same light. I find the article very hateful and disingenuous. IMO, none of us should find the kind of attack acceptable, regardless of who it is directed at.

    Did folks really expect her to identify the child she helped raise from age 6 as a stepchild? Honestly, if I were in the same situation and did that, I'd feel shameful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    I agree. I don't like Florina one bit and she is a candidate I cannot support. However, that said, I think the article was wrong in lobbing those comments in an effort to make her out as a liar and/or delusional. I have two stepson who were 3 and 5 when I met their mother. In my view they are equal in my heart to my children that share my DNA. I never introduce them, or think of them, as stepchildren. They are my boys, regardless of whether we share the same blood or not. I'm sure it is very possible that Florina considered her daughter in the same light. I find the article very hateful and disingenuous. IMO, none of us should find the kind of attack acceptable, regardless of who it is directed at.

    Did folks really expect her to identify the child she helped raise from age 6 as a stepchild? Honestly, if I were in the same situation and did that, I'd feel shameful.
    I agree that the author of the article was off base, hateful and disingenuous concerning a child from a previous marriage. One of the most loving things that a one person can do for another is to love and be kind to their children. JMO
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    The girls were 10 and 14, not 6, when Carly married their father. Their mother, Patricia Fiorina, had sole legal custody of both girls following the divorce, so they didn't live with Frank and Carly, they lived with their mother, and she raised them, not Carly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    The girls were 10 and 14, not 6, when Carly married their father. Their mother, Patricia Fiorina, had sole legal custody of both girls following the divorce, so they didn't live with Frank and Carly, they lived with their mother, and she raised them, not Carly.
    The child was 6 when Florina met her. So are you saying the child was not allowed to spend time with her father after the divorce?

    Where are you getting this information from. How about providing a link.

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    The information is on Wikipedia:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carly_Fiorina
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    According to Wikipedia link above, when Lori Ann Fiorina was 6 years old, that was 1981 when her parents Frank and Patricia were still married and Carly Fiorina was still married to her husband, Tom Bartlem. Lori Ann's parents were divorced in 1983 and her mother Patricia, who had filed for divorce, was awarded sole legal custody of Lori Ann who was 8 at the time and her sister was 12. Carly Fiorina filed for divorce in 1983, a process finished in late 1984, and she married Frank Fiorina in 1985, when Frank's girls were 10 and 14.
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