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    We are being taken over from within and if you do not believe it, you need to do some research.

    It is not paranoia, it is happening right before your eyes.

    I will give you one example. What did the Nazi's call Germanys' security apparatus?

    What did George W Bush rename our security apparatus?

    Homeland Security

    I never thought I would see the day America would be called the "Homeland" right out of Hitlers play book.

    Talk to any holocaust survivor that lived through what is happening in America today.
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    nntrixie, I remember a song that went along those lines, can't remember if it was from the 60s 70s or early 80s.....

    crazybird, I hear you about what you went through in the school systems. We lived in a little farming town in Wisconsin and I was up against the same sort of thing with two of my kids......I was told I just should stop protecting my kids so much, can you imagin saying that to a mom...I felt like throwing the desk over on the jerk. Once when I was having trouble with a praticular teach, I told her my daughter could take a chair out in the hall and learn more on her own....she is now at 37 she is a jr. partner with a group of lawyers who represent GE medical....my son had a speech problem, and I had to fight to get him speech, the school was not going to provide it so I went to the state capital in Madison, well he got speech therepy, what the school was going to do was put him in a learning disabled class...my son invented some cooling system for trucks...Napa paid him 10million dollars for it....the school told him he would never amount to anything...well I could tell you a story for eachone of the kids LOL and I can tell you are the kind of mom that must have lots of them too....I have 22 reasons for fighting against this immigration, 7 kids and 14 grands and 1 new grand that I just found out is coming in Nov. and my family yet to come....If it is like now for us, what will it be like for them and generations after them....if this keeps up there truly wont be an AMERICA.
    Just one more thing, when I was in 7th grade algebra I had a teacher who pushed communism down our throats daily, we went to the office, our parents went, our parents went to the school board and nothing was ever done. I still am trying to figure out why...This was in Milwaukee.

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    I have 22 reasons for fighting against this immigration, 7 kids and 14 grands and 1 new grand that I just found out is coming in Nov. and my family yet to come....If it is like now for us, what will it be like for them and generations after them....if this keeps up there truly wont be an AMERICA
    Congradulations!! And your right.....it's more for them. Thank you for your comments. I waited till I was in my 30's to have my children and was rather out of sink with the younger moms. I wanted so much to be a good parent. The best advice I ever got was from this wonderful black nurse I had when I delivered my first. "Nobody's going to know your baby better than you. Trust your instincts. I had 10 babies and if I had to be judged by what I did according to the latest book and the newest findings, they all ought to be dead. But I got one son that's a lawyer and ..." on down the line she went with very successful children. It has angered me and scared me that alot of their "helpful" intrusions made me doubt myself and fear those I should have been able to trust. I was atleast able to fight for them. How long is it going to be till the next mom won't be allowed to? When you can have your child for the first 6 years and then the government takes over and you visit on holidays? When they take the "American dream" away and decide you don't amount to anything and never get a chance to prove them wrong like your son did? Ya, there will be success stories of children who got a chance they may not have had before. But at what cost? It scares me.
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    They are a sly and devious CABAL that is hiding in plain sight! They are the de facto government that MOST Americans have no clue exists. They are the 'Shadow Government' that is enthralled with SCAM ideology that is memorialized in the Communist Manifesto, which tends to prompt statements from our current president George W. Bush such as: "It's just a ******** piece of paper" when referring to the Constitution of United States, followed by: "I'm the President and Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way!"

    http://www.americanchronicle.com/art...articleID=8453
    They took over long ago, prior to the first World War, they had a lot of help from within the US when they took over Russia as well. The bolsheviks and Weimar make for far better comparisons than nazi Germany or Hitler IMHO.

    I recently read Juri Lina's book Under the Sign of the Scorpion, on the rise and fall of the soviet empire, excellent and interesting reading, frightening but he put's things into good perspective. William Cooper's Behold a Pale Horse is another good read to pick up, a bit easier to find in the US; if I recall correctly he was Naval intelligence, printed much of what he learned in his search for the truth and as a warning, after numerous attempts they eventually succeeded in killing him for it.
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    Added footnote on pre school education. Here in Wisconsin they decided to remove all Holidays and their trappings from Headstart programs. As well as birthday parties. They are no longer aloud to color a santa picture, make a hand turkey, color easter eggs, or bring cupcakes to celebrate their birthdays. Nothing is aloud.

    The excuse is it may offend children and families who practice other holidays.....

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    Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
    So if California passes a bill requiring instruction about gays in history, will students hear about this sordid chapter of our past? I doubt it. That's because the bill's supporters -- like so many of us -- regard history as therapy. They want the gay kids to feel good.
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    Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
    Bill banning 'mom and dad' from school text book advances in California, please pray it's stopped.
    A bill requiring students to learn about the contributions homosexuals have made to society and that would remove sex-specific terms such as "mom" and "dad" from textbooks has passed another hurdle on the way to becoming the law of the land in California.

    Having already been approved by the state's Senate Judiciary Committee, SB 1437, which would mandate grades 1-12 buy books "accurately" portraying "the sexual diversity of our society," got the nod yesterday of the Senate Education Committee.

    The bill also requires students hear history lessons on "the contributions of people who are lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender to the economic, political, and social development of California and the United States of America."

    "This bill is the most extreme effort thus far to transform our public schools into institutions of indoctrination that disregard all notions of the traditional family unit," said Karen England, executive director of Capitol Resource Institute. "SB 1437 seeks to eliminate all 'stereotypes' of the traditional family so that young children are brainwashed into believing that families with moms and dads are irrelevant."

    SB 1437 not only affects textbooks and instructional materials for kindergarten and grades 1-12, it also affects all school-sponsored activities.

    "School-sponsored activities include everything from cheerleading and sports activities to the prom," said England. "Under SB 1437 school districts would likely be prohibited from having a 'prom king and queen' because that would show bias based on gender and sexual orientation."

    England also says the bill would likely do away with dress codes and would force the accommodation of transsexuals on girl-specific or boy-specific sports teams.

    England says the measure amounts to unneeded social experimentation.

    "SB 1437 disregards the religious and moral convictions of parents and students and will result in reverse discrimination," she said.

    Sponsored by Democratic Sen. Sheila Kuehl – a lesbian actress best known for playing Zelda in "The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis" in the 1960s – the legislation would add "gender" (actual or perceived) and "sexual orientation" to the law that prohibits California public schools from having textbooks, teaching materials, instruction or "school-sponsored activities" that reflect adversely upon people based on characteristics like race, creed and handicap.

    "We've been working since 1995 to try to improve the climate in schools for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender kids, as well as those kids who are just thought to be gay, because there is an enormous amount of harassment and discrimination at stake," Kuehl explained. "Teaching materials mostly contain negative or adverse views of us, and that's when they mention us at all."

    "In textbooks, it's as if there's no gay people in California at all, so forget about it," she added.
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    It was Nikita Krustof (can't remember the right spelling), of the Soviet Union who said we would be taken over without firing a shot. Although the Soviet Union is no more, the idealogs are still around.

    Many of the marches on May 1 were fomented by the anarchists and socialists. They grasp any cause they can find to stir up trouble.

    They never give up. They use our own system to fight our system. They misinterpret laws and change things slowly but surely. They are insidious.

    This is not paranoia. This is fact. It's been happening all around us for decades. The "New Deal" was the biggest political jumpstart they could hope for. They got it because another "cause" came along that they could exploit -- the Depression.

    Revisionist history, welfare, warping the Constitution, it's all part of the left. This illegal alien problem is the latest attack from a long line of attacks to our system.

    This is the tip of the iceberg.
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    Nikita Khruschev?

    Jan Kozak is who the document "And Not A Shot Is Fired" is attributed too, maybe someone else would have better luck finding a text of it published online.

    http://www.batr.net/batrcolumnists/modu ... toryid=108
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    Yes, Nikita Khrushchev, that's who said it. Thanks for the correct spelling. Others may have quoted him or may have written about his statement. He said it at the UN one day in the early days of the "Cold War."

    But I must say, Brother John, that I don't like the looks of your links.
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    Ca. legislation/ Communism/ political correctness

    Swtncgram, What?!!!! Delete 'mom & dad'? Are they crazy?!! How can anyone live in Ca? Sorry, I'm just so shocked. SOOOO much to learn!!!! I'm up for learning, though. Will try to catch up! I've watched and fought the changes in Miami, so I can only imagine the frustration of regular, decent citizens and LEGAL immigrants, with the quickly overwhelming numbers of illegals. That could certainly take attention AWAY from other problems. We had the Mariel Boatlift -Thanks, Pres. Carter...what a nightmare that was. And the more recent Guantanamo group...first the gov't wasn't going to let them in...then, WHAM, sure come in....so stupid.

    KickEmOut,

    I totally agree.

    re: political correctness. I've said for YEARS that polictical correctness is a means of thought control. It attempts to change reality. I actually had one person say " but someone might say something offensive". Scary! My response was that I want to know what someone is REALLY thinking, that way I know what situation I'm actually dealing with. It is what it is.
    If I consider them to be too rude, I'll say so, but I want to KNOW.
    I also believe that pc takes away our freedom of speech. Young people, who have NOT been awakened to the realities of life, really don't get the above. SCARIER!
    TIME'S UP!
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