Thread: Day Without Legal America

After spending a few days venting on 10news, NBCSanDiego forums about the illegal issue. I decided I needed to seek out a site that really promotes action. This site does that for me. So I revisited those message forums and posted the web address directing folks to this website. I hope I didn't overstep but I felt that I had to in order to support what many American citizens are feeling. As a tax paying citizen I am fed up shelling out hard earned money to a group of people who are in our country illegally demanding the same rights as you and I have. #$%^&*@!!!

Welcome Bearpaw, to anti-illegal central! We're glad you're here. Anything you can do to bring in more support multiplies our efforts, so keep spreading the website around.

Have you read the ALIPAC Platform, Action Panel and posting rules yet? Take a minute to familiarize yourself with those 3 things and you'll be well on your way to making a difference in the fight against illegal immigration.

Lost my orginal post. Sorry. BearPaw, I loved your idea for a week without the freebies, but the ideal and goal should be to withdraw the freebies permanently. It would make an impression, though. Who do we contact to make it work? Our Congressmen/Senators? Ha. Has everyone called their Senators and Congressmen? Every phone call respresents so many people, every letter so many and every telegram so many more. I say vote them all out if they do not do as we want.

Has everyone see what (Ahem) President Fox has planned for the Mexican Tourism? Illegal Drug Tourism. The plan is to further destroy our nation, which I think is the ultimate goal of Mexico. They want to reclaim what they think is their country from lost wars of long ago. If they repopulate at the rate they are going and birthing "citizens", it will not take long before they will overtake us.

Would someone look up the requirements for working in mexico as an American? I do not know how to post it on this site, but our country would greatly benefit by their requirements to work in Mexico.

Oh, BTW, I now refuse to buy Mexican foods in grocery stores or eat in Mexican restaraunts. Anyone else?

I will no longer buy anything sold or produced by Mexicans.

I would like to see a sticky with a list of all of these folks

I have already emailed Poultry Manufacturers and sellers.

Conagra web site was messed up - You should see everything they produce. We need a list.

I will not frequent a business that employs them or supports them.

Welcome bootslinda, don't have a list of products produced in mexico, but do have a list of all companies in US that hire illegals to boycott. Check out the website: www.wehirealiens.com

Originally Posted by Dianne

Can we put together an effort to do a day without LEGAL America?

A day all of us don't go to work or school, or trade stocks, make gas companies rich, buy groceries, make telephone calls, watch tv?

We would kick them in the a** if we did that.

Why make it a day? Who does your gardening? Who washes your cars? Do you buy roses from people on the side of the street with questionable citizenship?

2ifbyland......Would someone look up the requirements for working in mexico as an American? I do not know how to post it on this site, but our country would greatly benefit by their requirements to work in Mexico.

I thought I would share this....

Story from the other side of the fence...,...


I got the following from (Tom O'Malley) who was a Director with SW BELL in Mexico City, and with whom.
I worked with for about five years in Mexico.

I worked under a tourist Visa for three months and could legally renew it for three more months. After that you were working Illegally. I was technically illegal for three weeks waiting on the FM3 approval

During that six months our Mexican and US Attorneys were working to secure a permanent work visa called a FM3. It was in addition to my US passport that I had to show each time I entered and left the country. Barbara's was the same except hers did not permit her to work.

To apply for the FM3 I needed to submit the following notarized originals
(not copies) of my:

1. Birth certificate for Barbara and I.

2. Marriage certificate.

3. High school transcripts and proof of graduation.

4. College transcripts for every college I attended and proof of graduation.

5. Two letters of recommendation from supervisors I had worked for at least one year.

6. A letter from The ST. Louis Chief of Police indication I had no arrest record in the US and no outstanding warrants and was "a citizen in good standing."

7. Finally; I had to write a letter about myself that clearly stated why there was no Mexican Citizen with my skills and why my skills were important to Mexico. We called it our "I am the greatest person on Earth" letter. It was fun to write.

All of the above were in English that had to be translated into Spanish and be certified as legal translations and our signatures notarized. It produced a folder about 1.5 inches thick with English on the left side and Spanish on the right.

Once they were completed Barbara and I spent about five hours accompanied by a Mexican Attorney touring Mexican Government office locations and being photographed and fingerprinted at least three times. At each location and we remember at least four locations we instructed on Mexican tax, labor, housing, and criminal law and that we were required to obey their laws or face the consequences. We could not protest any of the Governments actions or we would be committing a felony. We paid out four thousand dollars in fees and bribes to complete the process. When this was done we could legally bring in our household goods that were held by US customs in Loredo Texas. This meant we has rented furniture in Mexico while awaiting our goods. There were extensive fees involved here that the company paid.

We could not buy a home and were required to rent at very high rates and under contract and compliance with Mexican law.

We were required to get a Mexican drivers license. This was an amazing process. The company arranged for the Licensing agency to come to our Headquarters location with their photography and finger print equipment and the laminating machine. We showed our US license, were photographed and fingerprinted again and issued the license instantly after paying out a six dollar fee. We did not take a written or driving test and never received instructions on the rules of the road. Our only instruction was never give a policeman your license if stopped and asked. We were instructed to hold it against the inside window away from his grasp. If he got his hands on it you would have to pay ransom to get it back.

We then had to pay and file Mexican income tax annually using the number of our FM3 as our ID number. The companies Mexican accountants did this for us and we just signed what they prepared. I was about twenty legal size pages annually.

The FM 3 was good for three years and renewable for two more after paying more fees.

Leaving the country meant turning in the FM# and certifying we were leaving no debts behind and no outstanding legal affairs (warrants, tickets or liens) before our household goods were released to customs.

It was a real adventure and If any of our Senators or Congressman went through it once they would have a different attitude toward Mexico.

The Mexican Government uses its vast military and police forces to keep its citizens intimidated and compliant. They never protest at their White house or government offices but do protest daily in front of the United States Embassy. The US embassy looks like a strongly reinforced fortress and during most protests the Mexican Military surround the block with their men standing shoulder to shoulder in full riot gear to protect the Embassy. These protests are never shown on US or Mexican TV. There is a large public park across the street where they do their protesting. Anything can cause a protest such as proposed law changes in California or Texas.

Please feel free to share this with everyone who thinks we are being hard on illegal immigrants.

[b][i] BearPaw ~ that is the exact one I received via email but did not know how to post it to this site....thanks for doing that. I wish this information was sent to ALL major newspapers!

Bootsalinda ~ thanks for those suggestions. I had not thought of a few of those.

Unfortunately, the ability to deny free services to the illegals is not in our power. It should be - but no one in Washington is paying attention.

We do have the power of where we spend our money - and we need to be together on this. If you want to boycott other than the monthly boycott - great. Do as many as you can do - but whatever you do - let's get together.

We need to be focused and concentrated to m ake it work.

I promise you if we 'put the hurt' on just one big industry - just one - the word will get out. Then one more and the rest might listen if we just suggest. The media won't tell - but we can find out.

It is our money that is providing jobs for these illegals. It is our money they are using to destroy our country and the future of our children and grandchildren.

So all together do the monthly boycott - and then as many as you can besides - but whatever you do - stick to the monthly boycotts.

2ifbyland As soon as I read your post I just had to send the the article. Amazing information in that article. An eye opener for me.

Something I need to share. Years ago when I lived up in Los Angeles in the late 70's. Every Sunday morning. Spanish speakers would form a crowd that seemed to grow in size each month. Looking back I can now see the results of those Sunday speeches that would last all day. They were anti American rallies and the tip of the iceburg of what was to come. What we see now has been in the works for quite sometime. We silly trusting Americans have been taken for a ride and now it is time to fight back...