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Okay, found a news story. I don't accept everything I read as the Gospel truth but, when one sees the same or similar data from varying sources (with those sources not relying upon the same source material themselves) one has to give some credence to the information.

""Today, legal immigrants must demonstrate that they are free of
communicable diseases and drug addiction to qualify for lawful permanent
residency green cards," writes Cosman, a medical lawyer, who formerly
taught medical students at the City University of New York. "Illegal
aliens simply cross our borders medically unexamined, hiding in their
bodies any number of communicable diseases."
Many illegals entering this country have tuberculosis, according to the
report.
"That disease had largely disappeared from America, thanks to excellent
hygiene and powerful modern drugs such as isoniazid and rifampin," says
the report. "TB's swift, deadly return now is lethal for about 60 percent
of those infected because of new Multi-Drug Resistant Tuberculosis. Until
recently MDR-TB was endemic to Mexico. This Mycobacterium tuberculosis is
resistant to at least two major anti-tubercular drugs. Ordinary TB usually
is cured in six months with four drugs that cost about $2,000. MDR-TB
takes 24 months with many expensive drugs that cost around $250,000 with
toxic side effects. Each illegal with MDR-TB coughs and infects 10 to 30
people, who will not show symptoms immediately. Latent disease explodes
later.
TB was virtually absent in Virginia until in 2002, when it spiked a 17
percent increase, but Prince William County, just south of Washington,
D.C., had a much larger rise of 188 percent. Public health officials
blamed immigrants. In 2001 the Indiana School of Medicine studied an
outbreak of MDR-TB, and traced it to Mexican illegal aliens. The Queens,
New York, health department attributed 81 percent of new TB cases in 2001
to immigrants. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention ascribed 42
percent of all new TB cases to 'foreign born' people who have up to eight
times higher incidences apparently, 66 percent of all TB cases coming to
America originate in Mexico, the Philippines and Vietnam."

I believe the above story was based, at least in part, on this story. This story includes notations indicating the source of the writer's information. THis is a scholarly work written in a style that is open for peer review. Stories of this type are generally considered to be quite reliable in what is reported. This is a lengthy article but well-worth reading. Of course, the pro-invasion crowd whose untrained minds are blinded by their loyalty to ethnicity and loyalty to nothing else will naysay this info:


"Dr. Madeleine Cosman, Ph.D., ESQ April 25, 2005

Illegal aliens cross America’s borders medically unexamined. We shrug. We do not know what Illegal Aliens carry in their backpacks. We do not know what they carry in their bodies. Long ago we knew what legal immigrants brought with them. When my grandpa came to America, he kissed the ground of New York’s Ellis Island, then he stripped naked and coughed hard. Every legal immigrant before 1924 was examined for infectious diseases upon arrival and tested for tuberculosis.

Anyone infected was shipped back to the old country. That was powerful
incentive for each newcomer to make heroic efforts to appear healthy.

Today, legal immigrants must demonstrate that they are free of communicable diseases and drug addiction to qualify for lawful permanent
residency Green Cards. But Illegal Aliens stop at no medical checkpoint. Whoever walks through our foolishly open Golden Door comes in healthy or sick. If a border patrol sentry catches a healthy Illegal Alien he might be sent back home immediately. However, if we catch and detain a sick Illegal Alien, who after examination by physicians in a detention center proves to have a serious disease, we keep him! Foolish compassion makes us fear that his home country has neither adequate medical resources nor modern wonder drugs.

So we release sick Illegal Aliens to the American streets, to infect others if their diseases are contagious, or we place them in our Medicaid program where we pay for their expensive treatments. Foolish medical generosity encourages clever Illegal Aliens to exploit free medical care that EMTALA, the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act, provides.[1] Foolish medical graciousness encourages cynical Illegal Aliens to take and take and take again.[2] Only a foolish guest will refuse what a foolish host offers. Our wide-open Golden Door guarantees that Illegal Aliens in their own self-interest will use and abuse our medical system.

Our Golden Door also is propped open thanks to advocacy and legal aid of Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Foundation, National Immigration Law Center, Southern Poverty Law Center, and similar open border groups.[3] America is fast becoming Hospital to the World.

Horrendous diseases that long ago America had conquered are resurging.
Horrific diseases common in Third World poverty and medical ignorance
suddenly are appearing in American emergency rooms and medical offices. Along with the visible invasion of Illegal Aliens across our borders is an invisible invasion of deadly diseases.[4] Many illegals who skulk across our borders have tuberculosis (TB). That disease had disappeared from America thanks to excellent hygiene and powerful modern drugs such as Isoniazid and Rifampin.[5] ,[6] ,[7] ,[8] ,[9] ,[10] TB’s swift, deadly return now is lethal for about 60% of those infected. The culprit is the new Multi-Drug Resistant Tuberculosis (MDR-TB).[11] Until recently MDR-TB was endemic to Mexico.[12] ,[13]

The mycobacterium tuberculosis is resistant to at least two major TB
drugs. Ordinary TB usually is cured in six months with four drugs (that
cost about $2000). MDR-TB takes 24 months with many expensive drugs with toxic side effects (that cost around $250,000).[14] ,[15] Each Illegal
Alien with MDR-TB coughs and infects numerous people who will not show
symptoms immediately. Latent disease explodes later, like a time bomb.

TB was virtually absent in Virginia until in 2002 it spiked a 17% increase, but Prince William County, not far from Washington, D.C., had a meteoric rise of 188%. Public health officials blamed immigrants. Indiana School of Medicine in 2001 studied an outbreak of MDR-TB traced to illegal aliens from Mexico. The Queens, New York, health department attributed 81% of new TB cases in 2001 to immigrants. The Centers for Disease Control ascribed 42% of all new TB cases to “foreign born” people who have up to eight times higher incidence.[16] ,[17] ,[18] ,[19] ,[20] ,[21] Apparently 66% of all TB cases coming to America originate in Mexico, the Philippines, and Viet Nam.

Virulent TB outbreaks afflicted schoolteachers and children in Michigan,[22] ,[23] and adults and kids in Texas.[24] The teachers and kids caught it at school from coughing children of Illegal Aliens. In Minnesota, policemen suddenly came down with MDR-TB. The cops caught it in their patrol cars when they arrested Illegal Aliens who coughed in their faces. Recently TB erupted in Portland, Maine, and Del Ray Beach, Florida.


Chagas Disease has no known cure. Chagas has the revolting nickname of kissing bug disease. The Reduviid bug has parasites that favor the lips
and face for infection. That noxious Trypanosoma-Cruzi protozoan annually infects 18 million people in Latin America and causes 50,000 deaths.[25] ,[26] ,[27] ,[28] ,[29] ,[30] ,[31] This seditious disease also
infiltrates America’s blood supply. Chagas affects blood transfusions and
transplanted organs. Hundreds of blood recipients may be silently
infected.[32] After 10 to 20 years, up to 30% will die when their hearts
or intestines, enlarged and weakened by Chagas Disease, burst.[33] Two
people died of the three people in 2001 who received Chagas-infected organ transplants.

Leprosy, a scourge in Biblical days and in medieval Europe, so horribly
destroys flesh, faces, and fingers it was called Disease of the Soul.[34]
Lepers quarantined in leprosaria sounded noisemakers when they ventured out to warn people to stay far away. Leprosy or Hansen’s Disease was so rare in America that in 40 years only 900 people were afflicted.[35] ,[36] ,[37] ,[38] Suddenly, in the past three years America has more than 7,000 cases of leprosy. Leprosy now is endemic to northeastern states. There are leprosy clinics in New York City. Illegal Aliens and other immigrants brought leprosy from India, Brazil, the Caribbean, and Mexico.[39] ,[40] ,[41]

Dengue Fever is exceptionally rare in America though common in Ecuador, Peru, Viet Nam, Thailand, Bangladesh, Malaysia, and Mexico.[42] Recently there was a virulent outbreak of Dengue Fever on the Webb County, Texas, border with Mexico.[43] Though Dengue usually is not a fatal disease, Dengue Hemorrhagic Fever, is one strain of the disease that routinely kills.

Polio was eradicated from America but now reappears in illegal
immigrants.[44] Intestinal parasites were mostly obliterated. Our fine
sanitation and microbe-safe food supplies made them disappear. But they are back, in the bodies of Illegal Aliens.[45] ,[46] ,[47] ,[48]

Malaria was obliterated but now is re-emerging in Texas and other states.[49] ,[50] ,[51] ,[52] No mosquito that bites a person infected with malaria checks identification papers before biting another person to
transmit debilitating fever.

About 4000 young children under age five annually in America contract the infectious disease called Kawasaki Disease. Youngsters develop fever, red eyes, “strawberry tongue,” and acute inflammation of their coronary
arteries and other blood vessels. Many suffer heart attacks and sudden
death.[53] ,[54]

Hepatitis A, B, and C are resurging.[55] ,[56] ,[57] ,[58] An outbreak of
Hepatitis A in 2003 near Pittsburgh endangered 3000 thanks to infected
Mexico-grown scallions and Illegal Alien kitchen workers in a Chi-Chi’s
restaurant. Two Americans died. Asians number 4% of Americans but over 50% of Hepatitis B cases. We inoculate all newborns for Hepatitis B although mainly Asians are susceptible.[59] Why? The answer is political judgment not medical judgment.[60]

Deadly Marburg disease, like the fierce hemorrhagic Ebola, right now in
April, 2005, is devastating Angola.[61] Physicians in that African country are despairing as hundreds of infected people bleed to death. Just one
infected person who could walk through the Golden Door of our Hospital to the World could be a suicide bomber with incendiaries in his arteries,
veins, or capillaries.

Terrorists are buying so-called “weapons grade” strains of disease
organisms for bio-warfare. America risks devastation by evil intent of a
terrorist or by innocent accident of an infected Illegal Alien walking
through our foolishly open Golden Door. Illegal Aliens secret in their bodies invisible, deadly time bombs. Homeland Security ignores these lethal weapons of health destruction.
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I omitted the citations since they would add even more length to this post. Our elites are assuredly aware of the perils we commoners face who have to live and work among the invaders, whose kids attend the schools where the infected illegal kids can spread disease. But, the elite class in their desire for cheap labor and an enormous underclass that is easier to rule than the educated culture the so-called average American is a part of, is willing to allow the horrors and costs of those diseases to occur.

I can not help but equate the actions and inactions of the elite class and all those supporting the invaders as being akin to those who enacted that Holocaust in the middle 20th century that was fatal to so many.

To what extent will the lust for wealth and power by America's elites and corporate entities take us..... to the grave?

I have noticed some newbies lately who possess, in my opinion, the ethnic loyalty that makes them view the anti-invader crowd as either racisr or misinformed or whatever. But, in my never-humble opinion, those pro-invaders are showing their lack of education in general and a sever lack in devoting any time to researching anything about the invasion. Emotion before intellect as seen amongst too many Americans and among the vast majority of invaders.

More medical horrors and the economic cost the invaders do not pay.


"Illegal Immigration And Public Health
From Patricia Doyle, PhD


The risk to the US population and Public Health is of utmost importance regarding Illegals. A country has an obligation to its citizens to protect the health of all of its people. In my opinion, the US is not protecting the population. At what point must compassion for our fellow human beings end and protection of a legitimate populaton begn?

When we have facts, such as shown below, that infectous diseases are spreading due to illegals aliens, it is time for the government to stop the influx of people carrying those infections.

I would have no objection to Doctors Without Borders or other international and US organizations helping infected people around the
world in their own countries, but I do object to those infected being
allowed to simply walk in to the US and freely spread disease...and
bankrupt much of our public health care infrastructure in the process.

Humanitarian help is wonderful and most Americans favor the efforts of
those who go abroad and help the millions of afflicted people. We are
only objecting to infected people entering the US illegally and putting the US population at risk.

Our health care is in crisis and many people who become infected in the US as a result of contact with illegals cannot afford health care themselves. What happens when a US citizen contracts an illness like
TB or HCV and cannot afford to seek treatment? How many middle class
Americans will lose everything they own, homes, cars etc. to pay for
health care and expensive medication for diseases that they contract
from illegals?

Patricia Doyle

Illegal Immigration And Public Health Fairus.org5-4-6

The impact of immigration on our public health is often overlooked.
Although millions of visitors for tourism and business come every
year, the foreign population of special concern is illegal residents,
who come most often from countries with endemic health problems and
less developed health care. They are of greatest consequence because
they are responsible for a disproportionate share of serious public
health problems, are living among us for extended periods of time, and often are dependent on U.S. health care services.

Public Health Risks

Because illegal immigrants, unlike those who are legally admitted for
permanent residence, undergo no medical screening to assure that they
are not bearing contagious diseases, the rapidly swelling population
of illegal aliens in our country has also set off a resurgence of
contagious diseases that had been totally or nearly eradicated by our
public health system.

According to Dr. Laurence Nickey, director of the El Paso heath district "Contagious diseases that are generally considered to have
been controlled in the United States are readily evident along the
border ... The incidence of tuberculosis in El Paso County is twice
that of the U.S. rate. Dr. Nickey also states that leprosy, which is
considered by most Americans to be a disease of the Third World, is
readily evident along the U.S.-Mexico border and that dysentery is
several times the U.S. rate ... People have come to the border for
economic opportunities, but the necessary sewage treatment facilities,
public water systems, environmental enforcement, and medical care have
not been made available to them, causing a severe risk to health and
well being of people on both sides of the border.1

"The pork tapeworm, which thrives in Latin America and Mexico, is
showing up along the U.S. border, threatening to ravage victims with
symptoms ranging from seizures to death. ... The same [Mexican]
underclass has migrated north to find jobs on the border, bringing the
parasite and the sickness"cysticercosis"its eggs can cause[.] Cysts
that form around the larvae usually lodge in the brain and destroy
tissue, causing hallucinations, speech and vision problems, severe
headaches, strokes, epileptic seizures, and in rare cases death.2

The problem, however, is not confined to the border region, as illegal
immigrants have rapidly spread across the country into many new
economic sectors such as food processing, construction, and hospitality services.

Typhoid struck Silver Spring, Maryland, in 1992 when an immigrant from
the Third World (who had been working in food service in the United
States for almost two years) transmitted the bacteria through food at
the McDonald,s where she worked. River blindness, malaria, and guinea
worm, have all been brought to Northern Virginia by immigration.3

Contrary to common belief, tuberculosis (TB) has not been wiped out in
the United States, mostly due to illegal migration. In 1995, there was
an outbreak of TB in an Alexandria high school, when 36 high-school
students caught the disease from a foreign student.4 The four greatest
immigrant magnet states have over half the TB cases in the U.S.5 In
1992, 27 percent of the TB cases in the United States were among the
foreign-born; in California, it was 61 percent of the cases; in
Hawaii, 83 percent; and in Washington state, 46 percent. The Queens,
New York, health department attributed 81 percent of new TB cases in
2001 to immigrants.

Costs of Medical Care

Immigrants are often uninsured and underinsured. Forty-three percent
of noncitizens under 65 have no health insurance. That means there are
9.4 million uninsured immigrants, a majority of whom are in the
country illegally, constituting 15 percent of the total uninsured in
the nation in the mid-1990s.6 The cost of the medical care of these
uninsured immigrants is passed onto the taxpayer, and strains the
financial stability of the health care community.

Another problem is immigrants, use of hospital and emergency services
rather than preventative medical care. For example, utilization rate
of hospitals and clinics by illegal aliens (29 percent) is more than
twice the rate of the overall U.S. population (11 percent).7

As a result, the costs of medical care for immigrants are staggering.
The estimated cost of unreimbursed medical care in 2004 in California
was about $1.4 billion per year. In Texas, the estimated cost was
about $.85 billion, and in Arizona the comparable estimate was $.4
billion per year.8

One of the frequent costs to U.S. taxpayers is delivery of babies to
illegal alien mothers. A California study put the number of these
anchor baby deliveries in the state in 1994 at 74,987, at a cost of
$215 million. At that time, those births constituted 36 percent of all
Medi-Cal births, and they have grown now to substantially more than
half of the annual Medi-Cal budget. In 2003, 70 percent of the 2,300
babies born in San Joaquin General Hospital,s maternity ward were
anchor babies. Medical in 2003 had 760,000 illegal alien beneficiaries, up from 2002, when there were 470,000

I have so many more news stories from reliable sources. Some tell of the nation-wide medical impact of illegals, some the HUGE economic cost to the taxpayer and some combine the two. Some stories tell of the severe impact upon one town or one hospital. Whatever the coverage, learning of the perils to us and the cost we can only be angry. Yet, the nay-sayers, those defending the invaders, muster to their cause no matter what cost WE have to pay.

My last story was written by a doctor. Read it and weep for the suffering illegal but also weep for all who are also affected in the USA but should not have been. And, vent your anger against the elite class of the countries where the invaders originate from. WE, THE PEOPLE, are paying the price so those elites can live their luxurious lives and maintain their stranglehold on the reigns of power in their countries.

"TB or Not to Be An illegal alien has a brush with death--and gets up to work again.

Several months ago, I had an unusual encounter with an illegal immigrant. He was only 25, from Guatemala, and had been in the U.S. for only three months. He'd been doing landscaping work until he was admitted to Greenwich Hospital in Connecticut, with an excruciating headache. The medical team discovered that he had active tuberculosis, so fulminant that it had even invaded his spinal fluid. Thus, the headache.

Needless to say, tuberculosis meningitis is not the type of thing we're used to seeing in Greenwich, or anywhere in the U.S., for that matter. He ended up in Greenwich Hospital because the one in the town where he'd settled, the neighboring and much less well-to-do Port Chester, had shut down after going bankrupt. That hospital had cared for a large number of patients just like him: no insurance, no English, no papers. When a hospital serving such a demographic goes bankrupt, it leaves a needy population to seek free care elsewhere, passing on the same risk of financial distress to neighboring hospitals, like propagation of an infectious disease.

He'd been in the hospital for a month by the time my surgical services were called upon. He was staying in a private isolation room. His strain of TB was proving to be multi-drug-resistant, and the medical team just couldn't clear it. I was paged by an intern on a Sunday morning. The story: Over the course of 24 hours, the patient had developed a rapidly progressive weakness in his legs to the point where he couldn't even stand, and had lost bladder control. An MRI revealed a large mass that was compressing his spinal cord to an impossibly thin strand. The mass spanned an incredibly lengthy 10 vertebral segments, nearly from the base of his neck to the top of his low back. I'd never seen anything like it. Neither had the internist, the infectious disease specialist, the neurologist or the radiologist. We don't work in the Third World. I took the patient to the operating room and spent the rest of my Sunday in the hospital. I wasn't thrilled. I wore a special mask designed to hug the face tighter than most OR masks, but the thought crossed my mind that I was putting myself and the entire OR staff at risk. I made the longest incision I'd ever made in my surgical career, carefully opened 10 segments of spine, and worked away at the inflammatory mass that was plastered to his spinal cord. I called a pathologist in to examine the pieces of specimen I was removing. He heard the full story, refused to contaminate his equipment, and left.

It wasn't possible to get more than half the mass out without risking even more damage to his spinal cord, so I stopped, forcing myself to settle for the less-than-satisfying achievement of having at least decompressed the spinal cord by removing the bony elements from behind (unroofing the spinal canal to allow for more room). Would he ever walk again? Doubtful. In fact, I'd phoned another neurosurgeon while in the OR, just to talk through this case. He'd never encountered anything similar either, but convinced me that the patient wouldn't even live long.

The patient spent an additional six weeks in the hospital after surgery, not because of surgical concerns, but because the medical team still couldn't clear his infection. His sputum samples kept coming back positive. After 2 1/2 months on multiple antibiotics, he was finally clear to leave the hospital. He left in a wheelchair. I knew I'd never see him again.Why should our hospitals have to eat the cost of disease brought in by undocumented workers? I found out that his bill totaled $200,000. This excludes professional fees, meaning everything that would have been billed separately by the many physicians treating him over 10 weeks (including what I'd have charged for surgery). We all worked for him free. How many other diseases are being brought in by how many other undocumented and unexamined workers? Somehow, here, a social worker was able to track down the friends and relatives who came to the U.S. with this patient. They all tested positive for TB, and were all working behind the scenes in local restaurants.

I'm certainly in favor of figuring out a way to offer health insurance and proper medical care to all Americans (as long as whatever plan is enacted doesn't compromise the quality of care or the incentives for medical innovation). But I don't think we can justify the same for just anyone who wants to jump over the borders. And how do you handle the PR quandary when other patients in the hospital, there for elective gall-bladder or knee surgery, ask questions? I know what goes through their minds when they see the isolation rooms with ominous warning signs, as nurses get fully gowned, gloved and masked before cracking open the doors.
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Before closing let me tell of the ambulances from Mexico, crossing the border, and dropping off patients for free care. Yes, it happens. One of those dropped off was in full renal failure; his kidneys had stopped working. The cost to the taxpayer was several hundred-thousand dollars per month for dialysis, medicine, hospital room, etc. The hospital tried to send the Mexican national back to Mexico but every Mexico hospital refused the patient and the Mexican government ignored pleas from the hospital. Last i read (this was a few years back) the patient was still in the hospital.

And, those newbies arrive here, lambasting us for not wanting the invasion to continue.

I had posted this previously, Obbop. This happened to me, more than once.

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Try working in the ER! Try having to be close enough to start an IV, for example, and have someone, look at you, then cough right at you, even though you've given them tissues to cough into! Then you find out what their infection was, much later, when the organism grows out! Takes minimum of 2 days. Depending on the organism. Some tests take longer.
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You know, when the media has a story about this, seldom do they mention the staff of the hospital. They might mention the docs, but I promise you that the nurses, respiratory techs, x-ray techs, ancillary help, of any kind, spend MORE time in close contact. Imagine being the nurse who has a patient(pt.) that IS SUSPECTED OF TB, then is found to have MDR TB. We, morally and ethically, have to take care of the ill. A lot of nurses quit because of fear for their families. In the early 80's, for example, my father wanted me to quit nursing because of the risk of AIDS. I didn't. Just became even more careful. But when people cough at you, in your face....

Most American children are raised with hygiene lessons, wash your hands, cough in a tissue (now, because of the worry about Avian Flu going pandemic (not yet, Folks ) they're being taught to cough into their elbows, to prevent transmission by hands...etc...just basic courtesy and consideration of others. I don't see that same knowledge in many from 3rd world nations. I don't know if they aren't taught, or if they just don't care. You see, I instructed the pt. that coughed at me how to use the tissues in my poor Spanish, by demonstration, AND had a Spanish speaker come in and explain WHY it was so important! The pt. and talked and the other nurse answered questions...my point being that the pt. was NOT mentally impaired in any way. And yet he still coughed in my face. Was he illegal? Don't know. Looked Mexican.

If you know someone in the medical field, who really cares about what he/she does, treasure that person.

A few years ago she came down with a very strange form of measles which she was told was most likely brought here by illegals from Central America. Came very close to losing her but she recovered. This is a huge threat no matter where you live. Do you think any of these people have vaccinations and doesn't the government realize that they are bringing entirely new and different diseases that we don't have immunity against?

People from different areas of this country, even, have very slighty different populations of, say, a virus. When "snowbirds' come down to Miami each winter, they bring it with them, then that virus spreads to us.

Now, imagine the differences in virurses from another country!

Carrie92121 and interested folks,

Here's a terrific link for those interested in disease risk here because of illegals. So far have been unable to locate a site such as "statistical disease risk due to illegal aliens". NOT PC, I guess

http://www.cdc.gov/scientific.htm

There is far too much info to post here, as well as links within links. (I'm sure there must be a computer term for that, but ? )

CAUTION: THIS INFO CAN OVERWHELM YOU! IF you choose to go to this link, you will need to be able to keep a very objective, scientific type viewpoint. Remember that this info is from basically around the world...as in pt's who contract a disease in another country they visited.

Wash hands, stay healthy. That's a big help in fighting disease.

Carrie, infectious diseases are mother natures way of controlling unchecked immigration.

Google "Bubonic, plagues, black death, etc. for a history of the threat of infectious diseases. This was a serious problem for the Western and Eastern Roman Empires, as even Roman Emperors died of infectious diseases. The Ancient city of Athens was devastated by what is thought to have been a break out of an infectious disease during, IIRC, the Peloponnesian War.

Drug resistant forms of TB (a disease that was thought to be extinct in the U.S.) have emerged, as well as Mumps, and hepatitis. The majority of these out breaks are attributed to the failure to test (illegal) immigrants for infectious diseases.

Some sources state that more people died in the world wide Flu epidemic of 1918-1919 than were killed in both WW1 and WW2 together. This is why the world is so worried about the possibility of a "bird flu" mutation and break out.

Just keep in mind that heart disease is the number one killer in the U.S.

OBBOP-

Do you have the links to the articles you posted?