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    Of course it's not amnesty!

    The illegals will have to pay a $2000 fine over a 7 year period, AND file back tax returns for 3 out of the last 5 years! Of course, since they will all seemingly be eligible for EIC, that means they will actually be OWED money from the US government....

    That's not amnesty! that's just what they are planning on doing!

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    A debate on immigration is going on now on C-span by Tamar Jacoby and Mark Krikorian.

    TAMAR JACOBY
    MANHATTAN INSTITUE

    Jacoby, a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, writes extensively on immigration and citizenship. She is a leading conservative voice in the media and elsewhere in favor of immigration reform, and works to organize the center-right behind reform proposals taking shape in Washington.
    1. Her 1998 book, Someone Else’s House: America’s Unfinished Struggle for Integration (Basic Books), tells the story of race relations in three American cities—New York, Detroit and Atlanta. The Economist magazine called it “arguably the most important study of race relations in America since Gunnar Myrdal’s An American Dilemma was published in 1944.”
    A more recent book, Reinventing the Melting Pot: The New Immigrants and What It Means To Be American, was published by Basic Books in February 2004. A collection of essays by a diverse group of authors—academics, journalists and fiction-writers on both the right and the left—it argues that we as a nation need to find new ways to talk about and encourage immigrant absorption in American society.

    http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/jacoby.htm


    [i]
    The amount of immigrants, legal or illegal is an enormous cost the the American tax payer. giving amnesty to illegals would not change the cost to this country, because illegal immigrantion has been overwhelming. It is a problem. Amnesty will cost much more then deportaiton.
    Tamar Jacoby say; "immigrants create jobs for immigrants and Americans and they help the economy." "Immigrants businesses hire immigrants and Americans."
    Immigrant own business do not hire American citizens. Americans pay the price.
    Enforce immigration laws and they will not come and they will leave. We do not have to round up 12 million and deport them. They will leave over a period of time and American will absorb the jobs left. We do not need more unskilled laborers. We have enought home grown.

    ILLEGAL OR LEGAL THERE ARE TOO MANY IN THIS COUNTRY.[/i]

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