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    Does Donald Trump know he can cap refugee program now?

    Does Donald Trump know he can cap refugee program now?


    Posted by Ann Corcoran on February 12, 2017

    You have surely heard all the numbers flying around this morning about how many refugees from the seven originally banned countries have entered the US. The numbers vary somewhat based on what day (and even time of day) one checks the State Department data base at Wrapsnet.


    Where is Secretary of State Tillerson? It is the DOS bringing those
    in from the original 7 countries of concern at an accelerated pace.


    We heard a couple of days ago from Stephen Dinan at the Washington Times that 77% of the refugees admitted in the week following Judge Robarts’ decision are from the banned countries.

    By the way, when I did numbers yesterday I went back to the day after the EO was issued (January 28th until yesterday) and the percentage was less than 50% from the 7 originally banned countries, so in recent days the Dept. of State has rushed in more from the seven targeted countries increasing the percentage.

    Trying to recreate Dinan’s numbers for 2/3 to 2/9 I get 75% not 77%. But, that small discrepancy doesn’t matter because it depends on when in the day on the 9th or even the 8th Dinan ran numbers.

    But, that is not the point of this post!

    Just this morning Donald Trump tweeted that 72% came from those 7 terrorist-infested countries.





    Does the President not know that it is the UN and his own State Department (DOS) admitting them? Does he not know that he has the power to reduce the cap (the ceiling) on the entire program right now? He did reduce Obama’s proposal of 110,000 to 50,000, but he could go lower and stop this rush in from these countries.

    As of today we are at 34,430! Cap it now at 35,000!

    (35,000 is not that far off of Bush’s post 9/11 number of 39,554, see here)

    This reduction, across the board, was not addressed in the recent court wrangling because Trump clearly has the power! (LOL! Ted Kennedy, Joe Biden and Jimmy Carter gave it to him in 1980!).

    Of course a lowering of the ceiling won’t stop all those coming in from the seven terrorist hotspots, but the majority of those entering the US from Syria, Iraq, Somalia and Iran are through the UN/US Refugee Admissions Program.

    Where is Tillerson? Where is Trump’s White House staff? Would someone tell him!

    After all, the majority of Americans are on Trump’s side with this EO.

    This post is filed in our Trump Watch! category as well as ‘refugee statistics’ and ‘where to find information.’


    Does Donald Trump know he can cap refugee program now?



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    Waiting! Will Trump lower refugee ceiling further?

    Posted by Ann Corcoran on February 13, 2017

    If so, how low will he go!

    Leo Hohmann at World Net Daily talked to several experts here:





    Learn more about Miller from David Horowitz here: http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...ughts-warrior/


    If President Donald Trump wants to curtail migration into the U.S. from some of the world’s most dangerous hotspots of jihadism, he has options that would effectively navigate an end-run around the courts.


    “We will keep our country safe. That’s what I’m here for… I will give it the best security, so it will happen very rapidly,” Trump said Friday.

    His top policy aide, Stephen Miller, said essentially the same thing in appearing on all the major Sunday morning news shows.

    One of the options is to simply lower the ceiling on refugee resettlement for fiscal 2017, which began four months ago on Oct. 1.

    Trump has already partially exercised this option in his first executive order when he lowered the annual ceiling from 110,000 refugees set by Obama to 50,000. Interestingly, this was the one part of his executive order that was not struck down by the lawsuits filed in Washington state and Minnesota.
    [….]

    By cutting the ceiling to 35,000, Trump would effectively end refugee resettlement for the rest of the fiscal year
    extending over the next seven and a half months. That would allow his administration to decide on a better vetting system and determine how high to set the ceiling for fiscal 2018.
    [And, I would argue that such a moratorium would give Congress the impetus to begin to reform the program! First step would be to remove “church” contractors from federal payroll—ed]


    Continue reading here.

    See what the experts say. I am quoted too!

    Don’t forget, even though there is a vocal minority, the majority of your fellow citizens think protecting America is the first priority, here.

    Here is where the 2,305 refugees have been placed since the Executive Order was signed (up to this morning). I see we are still at the 34,430 level for the fiscal year, so there is still time to cap at 35,000! From Wrapsnet.




    None were placed in Alaska and Hawaii since the EO on January 27th.

    This post is filed in our Trump Watch! category as well as ‘refugee statistics’and ‘where to find information.’


    Go here and see why it is important for you to let Donald Trump know what you think!


    https://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/2017/02/13/waiting-will-trump-lower-refugee-ceiling-further/










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    Trump could shut off refugee spigot without executive order


    Posted By Leo Hohmann On 02/12/2017


    If President Donald Trump wants to curtail migration into the U.S. from some of the world’s most dangerous hotspots of jihadism, he has options that would effectively navigate an end-run around the courts.


    Trump hinted in his news conference Friday that the nation should expect something quickly, possibly a whole new executive order that would bypass the legal challenges.


    “We will keep our country safe. That’s what I’m here for… I will give it the best security, so it will happen very rapidly,” Trump said Friday.


    His top policy aide, Stephen Miller, said essentially the same thing in appearing on all the major Sunday morning news shows.



    Miller said “all options” remain on the table,” including a Supreme Court appeal.


    “As you know, we have multiple options, and we are considering all of them,” Miller said on ABC’s “This Week.”

    One of the options is to simply lower the ceiling on refugee resettlement for fiscal 2017, which began four months ago on Oct. 1.


    Trump has already partially exercised this option in his first executive order when he lowered the annual ceiling from 110,000 refugees set by Obama to 50,000. Interestingly, this was the one part of his executive order that was not struck down by the lawsuits filed in Washington state and Minnesota.


    There have already been 34,225 refugees enter the U.S. in fiscal 2017, meaning about 16,000 more are allowed to enter between now and Oct. 1. The vast majority of them, 77 percent, are coming from four of the seven countries listed in Trump’s executive order – Syria, Somalia, Iraq and Sudan.


    By cutting the ceiling to 35,000, Trump would effectively end refugee resettlement for the rest of the fiscal year extending over the next seven and a half months. That would allow his administration to decide on a better vetting system and determine how high to set the ceiling for fiscal 2018.



    Initially, Trump’s refugee pause was for four months and indefinitely for Syria. By lowering the ceiling, he could fire back with a tougher policy that is actually more difficult to challenge in the courts.


    By shutting down refugee resettlement for the remainder of the current fiscal year, Trump would also end migration from another dangerous outpost of Islamic terror that is not on his seven-nation list – Afghanistan.


    According to refugee and legal experts, Trump would not even need to issue an executive order to do this.


    The Refugee Act of 1980 gives the president the sole authority to set the ceiling on annual refugee numbers. All he is required to do is send a letter to Congress notifying them of the change.


    “Basically you let Congress know along with a couple of agencies of the federal government,” said Jordan Sekulow of the American Center for Law and Justice.


    “I think this is what the White House is considering, this and other options,” Sekulow told WND. “Start with something new, multiple cases, and get a fresh start. You have your attorney general in place now, your secretary of state, and you see some of the legal openings they are trying to seize upon at the Ninth Circuit, so if you can accomplish the same goal through multiple executive orders or other measures, why not?”


    Refugee resettlement expert James Simpson also cited this option as virtually fool-proof in a column for the Daily Caller. He writes:

    “President Trump does not need an executive order for this. He can simply send a letter to Congress, informing it of his intentions. Refugee caps for FY 2017 would be reduced to zero.”

    Sekulow says the Ninth Circuit’s three-judge panel, considered the most liberal in the U.S., was quiet on the refugee portion of Trump’s executive order. And for good reason.


    “They would have at least mentioned it if they thought that was an issue,” he said. “There’s a long history of pausing refugee resettlement for various reasons.”


    National security is the strongest reason. Even President Obama paused resettlements from Iraq after two Iraqi men had slipped into the refugee ranks and were resettled in Bowling Green, Kentucky, only to find out later they were bomb-makers who’d killed Americans in Iraq and were sending weapons and money back to al-Qaida in Iraq.


    Ann Corcoran, at Refugee Resettlement Watch, said shutting down refugee resettlement would virtually eliminate the influx from four dangerous countries.


    “It would significantly stop the Syrians, Somalis, Sudanese and Iraqis,” she said.


    Very few people from these four countries typically get to the United States on visa programs such as student visas and work visas.


    “I don’t know how many get here on the diversity visa lottery but I think the refugees represent the most significant portion of people from those countries getting in,” Corcoran said.


    The diversity visa lottery program allows in about 50,000 foreign nationals per year into the U.S. on green cards from countries that do not have a history of sending many immigrants to the United States.


    Sen. Tom Cotton in his new immigration bill has put forth a plan that would cut in half the overall number of green cards issued per year while doing away with the diversity visa lottery.


    Meatpackers losing cheap labor


    Bloomberg News Friday published an article explaining that one industry in particular, which it called “Big Meat,” is going to be affected by the draw down on the refugee limit that Trump is contemplating.


    The meatpacking industry has been increasingly feeding off of refugee labor, a trend that started under the presidency of Bill Clinton, said Corcoran, who went on a nationwide fact-finding tour of meatpacking towns last summer.


    “Clinton made Bosnian Muslim refugees available to his friends in the meatpacking industry,”she said.


    In 2006 President George W. Bush raided meatpacking plants in several states and arrested more than 1,300 illegal-alien workers, Bloomberg reports. The industry responded by doubling down on its pursuance of refugee labor, replacing Mexicans and Central Americans with refugees from Somalia and Myanmar. They would work just as cheaply as the Mexicans but with the added benefit that they were living in the U.S. at the invitation of the federal government — all perfectly legal.
    Over the next decade Big Meat became addicted to refugee labor.


    Bloomberg visited the Cargill plant in Fort Collins, Colorado, and observed:

    “Many of the workers at a Cargill Meat Solutions plant that’s the town’s largest employer emigrated from Somalia and Myanmar and had been waiting months, if not years, for relatives to join them. Now they’re afraid that reunion might never happen. As a result, the plant in Fort Morgan and other meatpacking plants in the U.S. that have dozens of openings may have to scramble to find a new labor pool.”

    “Maybe if they didn’t have this refugee labor they would have to raise the wage and hire Americans,” Corcoran told WND. “But there would never have been an article like this in Bloomberg if Trump were not president. You’d never see an author for Bloomberg, a leading disseminator of business news, admitting this program benefits ‘Big Meat.'”


    More lawsuits waiting


    There are 13 judicial circuits in the U.S. and 11 of them now have active lawsuits against Trump’s temporary travel ban. So if they fail in the Washington state suit they’re ready to forge ahead in another jurisdiction.
    “I think Trump’s people need to really get clever and stick it to the other side,” Corcoran said. “Go back and rescind and re-craft this thing.”


    “But I am contending he could stop the program now at 35,000 and he’s perfectly in his right to do that,” she continued. “On this extreme vetting I would make sure there were enormous hurdles to jump through from those dangerous countries. You wouldn’t have to say you ban everyone but make it difficult to prove various complex hurdles that it would effectively accomplish the same thing through regulations. I hope he gets on to this idea instead of trying to ram executive orders through the courts when the Supreme Court is stacked now in a way he cannot win.

    “I’m not sure I’d want to see that right now. At best that is a 4-4 scenario right now."



    URL to article: http://www.wnd.com/2017/02/trump-cou...ecutive-order/
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    Rescind the Executive Order — And Replace It With Many Tougher Ones


    Jim Simpson


    February 9, 2017



    President Trump needs to deny the Left a victory over his immigration executive order.

    The court challenge now being heard by the infamously unconstitutional and extremist 9th Circuit threatens to set a precedent that will codify open borders and leave the president powerless to protect us. Trump can snatch victory from the jaws of defeat and deny the Left their unconscionable and unconstitutional attempted power grab by rescinding this EO and issuing stronger multiple replacements as stand alone orders.


    The president cannot lose here. We must protect our borders; keep out the terrorists and rein in out-of-control immigration. It is the signal issue that got him elected. It is also the signal action needed to save this country from the Left’s malevolent intentions. The Left is attempting to subvert our country by simply replacing its population with a more malleable, sympathetic one. Unlike the immigrants of yesteryear, today’s are largely illiterate, welfare-dependent, unwilling to learn our language and definitely hostile to American culture and traditions. And while they are in many cases fleeing conditions created by their countries’ socialist policies, they nonetheless bring socialist ideas with them. As our country has become more “multi-cultural”, it has drifted ever leftward.


    This was no mistake.


    President Trump can and must rescind this executive order. Despite it’s hesitation, the 9th Circuit is virtually guaranteed to agree with the ruling by District Judge Robert Chambers halting Trump’s immigration ban. As the initial complaint was not justified by immigration law, which provides the president clear authority to do what he did, it would set a horrible precedent in eroding the president’s ability to protect the nation. If it goes to the Supreme Court, it will likely lose. Justice Kennedy will side with the leftists. With an 8 person court, even a 4-4 decision would mean the 9th Circuit ruling holds. Even with Trump’s Supreme Court nominee, Neil Gorsuch, a likely Kennedy defection would mean 5-4 for the Left. And support for Trump’s position is not even certain with Gorsuch.


    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/09/re...#ixzz4YbVoaLKz
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