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    Well, then it seems to me that when Ted Cruz failed to note his loans from Goldman Sachs and CitiBank when he ran for the Senate would have been as of much interest to you and it was to me. Of course that's not part of a tax return, that's part of a financial disclosure statement filed when you run for federal office. Trump filed his early months ago. That's a disclosure required by law. Tax returns are not required and you're not entitled under the law to see those.

    My point was that no one supporting Trump has asked to see his tax returns. These requests for the tax returns were from "reporters", the media and now Mitt Romney none of whom are voting for Trump, so why give them to your Haters? This whole tax return thing started with Romney's dad, who wasn't even eligible to run for the office to begin with because he was born in Mexico.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Well, then it seems to me that when Ted Cruz failed to note his loans from Goldman Sachs and CitiBank when he ran for the Senate would have been as of much interest to you and it was to me. Of course that's not part of a tax return, that's part of a financial disclosure statement filed when you run for federal office. Trump filed his early months ago. That's a disclosure required by law. Tax returns are not required and you're not entitled under the law to see those.

    My point was that no one supporting Trump has asked to see his tax returns. These requests for the tax returns were from "reporters", the media and now Mitt Romney none of whom are voting for Trump, so why give them to your Haters? This whole tax return thing started with Romney's dad, who wasn't even eligible to run for the office to begin with because he was born in Mexico.
    Why do you constantly try to make everything about Cruz? Like I said:

    I'm interested in seeing if all the candidates finances are as they say.
    Nothing wrong with including an honest and unbiased check into the candidates financial situation as part of the vetting process. After all, they are running for the highest office in the land, not for a bag boy position at Winn Dixie. Assuming they've been honest, no candidate should have a problem with this.
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    Because Cruz is the only one who failed to include his bank loans on his financial disclosure statement when he ran for Senate. There hasn't been any other report on anyone else in the race who failed to comply with that legally required financial disclosure document.

    If you're interested in someone's financial situation, that's described in the legally required financial disclosure statement that Trump filed months ago. So all your legitimate areas of interest have already been legally addressed with that document.

    Providing a tax return is a totally voluntary decision. I hope Trump tells them to "stick it where the sun don't shine" and say "NO RETURNS".
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    Judy wrote:

    Providing a tax return is a totally voluntary decision. I hope Trump tells them to "stick it where the sun don't shine" and say "NO RETURNS".
    To do that would be an admission that you have something to hide, but of course you know that.

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    Why We Lose: Where Was Dirty Trickster Mitt Romney When America Needed Him In 2012?

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    During a phoned-in appearance on Fox News Wednesday afternoon, 2012 Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney dropped a big ole’ a dirty bomb on Donald Trump. Speaking to Neil Cavuto, Romney said, without any evidence, that he has “good reason to believe that there’s a bombshell in Donald Trump’s taxes.” As someone who suffered through every moment of Romney’s feckless presidential campaign, the first thing I thought to myself was “Where the hell was this killer when we needed him most?”

    Listen, I have no issue with Romney dropping a dirty bomb, especially on a Donald Trump who is the master of launching these kinds of insinuations. Politics, especially at the presidential level, is not about Marquis of Queensbury. It’s about proving your skill as a campaigner, your ability to keep the other guy on defense. The fact that you might be offended by that reality does not change that reality.

    So let’s stop for a moment and applaud Romney’s skills at pulling an effective “Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV),” at being an effective McCarthyite dirty trickster 30 hours before Thursday night’s Republican debate, at giving Hillary’s DC Media Super PAC the anti-Trump talking points they are so desperate for.

    No question, Romney pulled it off with skill and panache.

    However….

    Romney also reminded folks like myself that the Republican Establishment is a dumpster fire of incompetence, a group of elite stiffs genetically incapable of winning national elections.

    When it comes to sticking a stiletto into a fellow Republican, suddenly Romney is Mitt the Machiavellian!

    Unfortunately, when it came to beating beatable incumbent Barack Obama in 2012, Romney couldn’t even deal with Candy Crowley; couldn’t prosecute Benghazi; couldn’t competently handle the questions around his own taxes; could neither shun nor embrace his wealth; couldn’t comprehend that in 2012 maybe you should assume everything is recorded before writing off 47% of voters; couldn’t do one damn thing effectively to win even a single news cycle against a failed incumbent.

    Oh, but look at Romney now — diving in the gutter and proving that Mr. Squeaky Clean is in fact quite capable of doing what it takes to win … against his own.

    For America, Romney couldn’t do it, even as Team Obama accused him of murder.

    To protect the Establishment Trough, though, suddenly he’s a Man willing to get his hands dirty.

    You know who does not have this genetic defect? Donald J. Trump, and that is a very, very big part of his appeal.

    Not that we needed it, but thanks for the reminder that the GOP Establishment needs to be burned to the ground, and its ashes tied to the roof a car that we bury in a luxury elevator.

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    So let’s stop for a moment and applaud Romney’s skills at pulling an effective “Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV),” at being an effective McCarthyite dirty trickster 30 hours before Thursday night’s Republican debate, at giving Hillary’s DC Media Super PAC the anti-Trump talking points they are so desperate for.

    No question, Romney pulled it off with skill and panache.

    However….

    Romney also reminded folks like myself that the Republican Establishment is a dumpster fire of incompetence, a group of elite stiffs genetically incapable of winning national elections.

    When it comes to sticking a stiletto into a fellow Republican, suddenly Romney is Mitt the Machiavellian!

    Unfortunately, when it came to beating beatable incumbent Barack Obama in 2012, Romney couldn’t even deal with Candy Crowley; couldn’t prosecute Benghazi; couldn’t competently handle the questions around his own taxes; could neither shun nor embrace his wealth; couldn’t comprehend that in 2012 maybe you should assume everything is recorded before writing off 47% of voters; couldn’t do one damn thing effectively to win even a single news cycle against a failed incumbent.

    Guess jealous romney wants a democrat to win.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
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    To do that would be an admission that you have something to hide, but of course you know that.
    So in your "conservatism", privacy means something to hide? That may be "conservatism", but that is not Republicanism. Republicans oppose the income tax, oppose tax returns, oppose media or government intrusion into our lives and businesses. Protecting those Republican Values does not mean you have something to hide, it means you have something worth protecting. I guess that's why the Two Cuban Cackling Hens on either side of Trump who don't have anything worth protecting because they haven't done anything are losing their dream to be President.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    So in your "conservatism", privacy means something to hide? That may be "conservatism", but that is not Republicanism. Republicans oppose the income tax, oppose tax returns, oppose media or government intrusion into our lives and businesses. Protecting those Republican Values does not mean you have something to hide, it means you have something worth protecting. I guess that's why the Two Cuban Cackling Hens on either side of Trump who don't have anything worth protecting because they haven't done anything are losing their dream to be President.
    There you you go again trying to obfuscate the issue by attempting to deflect the conversation on to Cruz. We're talking about Trump this time.

    Nothing is off-limits in the vetting process for President of the United States!

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    There you you go again trying to obfuscate the issue by attempting to deflect the conversation on to Cruz. We're talking about Trump this time.

    Nothing is off-limits in the vetting process for President of the United States!
    Then have at it. No one is stopping you. But neither you nor anyone else can force Trump or anyone else to produce tax returns for political purposes if they don't want to. That is their right not to. If they want to produce their tax returns, then it's their decision if and when they do. If I were Trump just like when Romney was running, my advice is do not produce your tax returns. People voting for you don't care about them so why produce them for your enemies? Makes no sense.

    Tax returns are just something for hens to cackle about.
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