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    I think what has some people nervous is that if Trump gets shut out due to procedural matters he may go ballistic. But rules are rules. Cruz is working the system---and while some people may hate him for it, it's the system the party has agreed to. We can't live by our own rules. They say the Kennedy clan did that, and look what happened to them!

    I think Trump is probably more realistic in his view of Russia. The media may make fun of the camaraderie, but Russia is a pivotal player in Asia, and capable of enacting alliances that would be very powerful. For example, they deal with India, much more directly than we do, because it is in their sphere of influence. If they wanted to, Russia, India and China could run the globe and just tell us to get lost. So we should not miss an opportunity to have a productive relationship with the Russians. I found a good book about three decades ago concerning Russia ---by a State Department specialist, Thomas B. Larson. It's simply a different world, in their eyes. And for hundreds of years they have been dealing with an active Muslim contingent in their south----sometimes in the empire, sometimes out of it, as they are now.

    I also followed some of the stuff Gorbachev wrote about trying to lead the Russians, and had a chance to go to the Forum that the Gorbachev Foundation had begun in 1995. Which they partnered with some of the other major figures of that era, who had been instrumental in the detente between the Soviets and the West. The "new world order" was kind of a handy catch phrase that various world leaders used in those days----and probably doesn't signifiy the sinister conspiracy that it is often considered to be. It was a concept that borders should remain where they are, and that countries in a region could partner together in keeping them there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captainron View Post
    I think what has some people nervous is that if Trump gets shut out due to procedural matters he may go ballistic. But rules are rules. Cruz is working the system---and while some people may hate him for it, it's the system the party has agreed to. We can't live by our own rules. They say the Kennedy clan did that, and look what happened to them!
    Oh, you're referring to Trump's statements about the delegate fights? Well, that's not daffy, that's appropriate. He's bringing attention to a serious problem with our nomination system that most people weren't aware of and don't find fair or right. Trump has the right for example under the "rules" to challenge and contest delegates if they don't think they were selected properly according to the "rules" or if they aren't holding to the votes of the people. Trump is going to win the nomination on the first ballot. But if you don't talk about these problems as they're occurring, then they are never talked about and nothing ever changes.

    Because of the stink Trump made about Colorado, the GOP State Chairman of Colorado has already committed in a letter to a disgruntled Trump supporter that they're going to return to a primary election system next year. Trump is the change artist. In a few minutes of comments he can change the process and make it better. That's not daffy, that's how you fix our country.

    No Trump won't go "ballistic". If Trump has the most votes, the most states and the most delegates and doesn't win the nomination because of "procedures", he'll leave the race on the Republican ballot. What else he might choose to do will be his right, to either go back to his wonderful life or undertake the big task of running as an independent.

    Those are the three choices:

    1) win on the first ballot
    2) retire from politics
    3) run as an independent.

    I think he'll win on the first ballot with at least the necessary 1237 delegates.

    In the meantime, the more issues he exposes the more people like and understand him. That's important for people to see how he reacts to threats on the will of the people. Who else in the race is standing up for the will of the people? NOT A SINGLE SOUL. Just Trump, Trump is the only one pointing out that the people of Colorado got cheated out of being able to vote in a primary election. No one should be cheated out of voting in a primary whether it's in Colorado or anywhere else.

    As for the "rules", the rules will be written before the Convention, like they are every Convention. So when the media and candidates and the RNC say "rules are the rules" they aren't being honest. There are no rules, rules will be established by the Rules Committee of the Convention, the week or so before the Convention in July. So these candidates are out there spending money, raising money, working their asses off, without any rules.

    So it's a very strange system that given the state of our country based on the leadership this process has produced does not work to our benefit. We're electing the wrong people under this system. Hopefully, it will get one right for a change and Trump can win it on the first ballot, but for the future, the whole process needs to be based on a primary election in every state, no caucuses, no state conventions, just primary elections and whoever wins the most votes and the most states in the primaries is the automatic nominee at the Convention with all delegates simply voting for the candidate who won their state. You drop out of the race after a primary, those delegates go to the winner. Very simple.

    We're are supposed to be a nation that values winning. A political process that rewards losers at the expense of the winners goes against the very fiber of our souls and our nature as human beings. Now that this sick wickedness has been exposed, many thanks to Donald J Trump, it will not fly further in the United States. That bad boy game is over.
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