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    Early Skirmishes in a Race War

    National Review
    October 24, 2013 12:00 AM
    By Thomas Sowell

    Initial skirmishes in that race war have already begun, and have in fact been going on for some years. But public officials pretend that it is not happening, and the mainstream media seldom publish it at all, except in ways that conceal what is really taking place.
    Early Skirmishes in a Race War
    Officials and media aren’t being honest about the violence



    The Trayvon Martin murder trial polarized opinions on race relations nationwide.

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    Thomas Sowell

    One of the reasons for being glad to be as old as I am is that I may be spared living to see a race war in America. Race wars are often wars in which nobody wins and everybody ends up much worse off than they were before.

    Initial skirmishes in that race war have already begun, and have in fact been going on for some years. But public officials pretend that it is not happening, and the mainstream media seldom publish it at all, except in ways that conceal what is really taking place.

    For American society, a dangerous polarization has set in. Signs of this polarization over the years include opposite reactions between blacks and whites to the verdict in the O. J. Simpson murder case, the “rape” charges against Duke University students, and the trials resulting from the beating of Rodney King and the death of Trayvon Martin.More dangerous than these highly publicized episodes over the years are innumerable organized and unprovoked physical attacks on whites by young black gangs in shopping malls, on beaches, and in other public places all across the country today.

    While some of these attacks make it into the media as isolated incidents, the nationwide pattern of organized black-on-white attacks by thugs remains invisible in the mainstream media, with the notable exception of Bill O’Reilly on the Fox News Channel.

    Even when these attacks are accompanied by shouts of anti-white rhetoric and exultant laughter at the carnage, the racial makeup of the attackers and their victims is usually ignored by the media, and public officials often deny that race has anything to do with what happened.

    These attacks have sent many people to the hospital, and some victims have died, but the attacks are often carried out in a festive atmosphere. What are called “troubled youths,” in this and other contexts, are often in fact young people enjoying themselves greatly by creating big trouble for others.

    Some of these many attacks are covered in detail in a book titled White Girl Bleed a Lot, by Colin Flaherty. It was a phrase that I recognized immediately from my own previous research.

    That phrase was uttered by one of a group of black attackers who descended on a group of whites at a July 4th fireworks show in Milwaukee. But what happened there was not unique, either in itself or in the efforts of police and political authorities to downplay what happened — and to say that race had nothing to do with it.

    When the Chicago Tribune was criticized for editing out the race of the attackers in a series of similar organized attacks in Chicago, it replied that race was irrelevant. Yet race is not considered irrelevant when indignantly editorializing on a disproportionate number of young black males arrested and imprisoned.

    Sadly, what happened in Milwaukee and Chicago were not isolated incidents. They were part of a pattern repeated in dozens of cities, in every region of the country. Colin Flaherty’s book, which is subtitled “The Return of Racial Violence to America and How the Media Ignore It,” reveals this pattern in painful detail.

    Other books are emerging that are more clearly a white backlash, in the sense that they attack behavior patterns among contemporary blacks in general.
    Perhaps the most clearly “backlash” books are those written by Paul Kersey, whose central theme is that whites have created thriving cities, which blacks subsequently took over and ruined. Examples include his books about Birmingham (The Tragic City) and Detroit (Escape from Detroit).

    Kersey even takes a swing at Rush Limbaugh (and at yours truly) for saying that liberal policies destroyed these cities. He says that San Francisco and other cities with liberal policies, but without black demographic and political takeovers, have not been ruined. His books are poorly written, but they raise tough questions.
    It would be easy to simply dismiss Kersey as a racist. But denouncing him or ignoring him is not refuting him. Refuting requires thought, which has largely been replaced by fashionable buzzwords and catchphrases when it comes to discussions of race.

    Thought is long overdue. So is honesty.

    Thomas Sowell is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution. © 2013 Creators Syndicate Inc.

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    Jerry Walker
    • 3 days ago

    Please read "The Anatomy Of A Wilding Mob", an important and timely treatise addressing this issue @ http://jerrywalkerspeaks.wordp....
    This ariticle has been widely disseminated throughout the internet on numerous websites.
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    smileandwave
    • 4 days ago

    I'm with Mr. Sowell on this one. He understands that if things are allowed to continue as they are a point will eventually be reached where the masses will no longer be interested in arguing the toss any more. In the words of King Solomon the time for killing will have arrived and nothing is going to stop it.

    Having lived in Africa I can confirm that when things hit critical mass between two different groups after a period of prolonged friction no one is thinking "man we need to avoid stereotyping". Things rapidly degenerate to the lowest common denominator and if you've got the wrong skin colour, or haircut or accent or clothes or are simply travelling from the wrong direction you are toast.
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    alterego55
    • 5 days ago

    Race wars start when fat white losers with major self esteem issues stalk, hunt and kill black youth coming home from the 7-Eleven.

    Race wars start when 50,000 black youth are stopped, frisked and incarcerated for possession of a joint - while on the other side of town, fat white men are laundering billions of dollars of Mexican drug cartel money and getting away with it because "criminal prosecution would topple the bank and, in the process, endanger the financial system".
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    shootstraitar15 alterego55
    • 5 days ago

    Race wars start when ignorant blacks think they can do what they want.
    Race wars start when blacks rat pack innocent people.
    Race wars start when blacks take what does not belong to them.
    Race wars start when blacks move into communities and destroy them.
    Race wars start when blacks blame everyone else for their failure as a people.
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    richard barnes shootstraitar15
    • 5 days ago

    I would say you are BOTH wrong.
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    alterego55 Guest
    • 5 days ago

    Quit listening to those voices in your head. I'm white and I don't walk in mine fields. I don't worry about every word I speak. But then again, I don't live in a trailer.
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    Joseph Hansell
    • 5 days ago

    Wish I could find something in Mr. Sowell's piece to disagree with, because he paints a dire picture, but I can't. Consider the rate of illegitimacy, the prevalence of lowlife accessories like baggy pants and tattoos, the flat out ignorance with which the younger generation speaks and writes, and I find little to be optimistic about.
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    alterego55 Joseph Hansell
    • 5 days ago

    In my day it was rock and roll, bell bottoms and long hair that set the geezers off.
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    billb79
    • 6 days ago

    This mans opinion is one I respect!
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    FAUBUS
    • 6 days ago

    There is no solution to this racial conflict. Those of you talking about a cultural or Christian solution are wasting type. When people with an average IQ of 85 are forced to mingle and compete in school with people with an average IQ of 100 or more resentment will happen and will grow over the years. Integration brought us here and there is no solution. You White people better be locked and loaded.
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    DB1954 FAUBUS
    • 6 days ago

    The ONLY solution is a Judeo-Christian solution: Love thy neighbor as thyself. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. I'm not particularly religious, but it seems to me that if we follow these simple rules, it means that we take people ONE at a time. I'm white and I know dozens of black people who want no part of racial violence, and have never advocated violence against whites in any form or for any reason. Our president and government treat us all as groups, and this is where our thinking and our sense of morality have gone wrong. See people as individuals, not as groups.
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    Methinks DB1954
    • 5 days ago

    When they knock you down and kick your face in, they will be in a group.
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    cmoak1955yahoocom
    • 6 days ago

    monarchist says something else is going on. That something else is the de-Christianization of the country by the progressives and their lawyers, the ACLU. The Christian rule book, the Bible, says the only race is the human race. That concept alone, if taught, believed and acted out, is capable of destroying the premise of the Alinskyites and Communists everywhere.
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    fishmonster
    • 7 days ago

    I grew up in an upper middle class home, attended a prestigious college preparatory high school and worked for my Father, an operating vice president of a large construction company in Texas. I went to work when I was twelve years old working summers and holidays. I worked as a common laborer for years when I had the opportunity. Many fine black men looked out for me and I thought the world of them. When I was a senior in high school and during the following summer there was a strike (we were union) and I took groceries to their families. I thought the world of them and considered myself their equal. Later, after my military enlistment was completed, I returned home and worked as a structural steel ironworker (working on a permit) and then I became a union carpenter after taking a test with the carpenter's union ( yes, there was favoritism involved) I went to college and earned two degrees in two and a half years. My building trades days were over, but my love for my black friends remained. Somewhere between that time and now a lot changed and that hurts, we are brothers. But, thirty years later, my wife and I watch our backs,; we both have CHL's and we can handle any situation, together. If there is a coming division, we can take care of it any asinine, senseless 'Justice for Trayvon' will not be tolerated.
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    Joe Michels
    • 7 days ago

    I don't see this as a race war, but the early stages clashes between a misguided sub culture and a mainstream cultural unwilling to see the truth.
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    wabbott
    • 9 days ago

    The problem is not race but culture. (Implied plug for Sowell's book Race and Culture). All of us (black, white - all of us) know that there are good and upstanding people of every race represented in America. And alternatively, there are low-down, lawless and violent people of every race in America. When I see a person of color in my line of work, I no more associate them with lawless and violent black people than they associate me with white trash, skinheads or the KKK (I assume . I think we're to the point in America where people of all races who are upstanding and decent can talk frankly about the problems with those who share our color but who definitely do not share our values.

    The unfortunate but undeniable aspect of the conversation is that black people make up 12% of the population but account for 50% of the violent crime. Because of their color? No. Because of the morality and values of a certain subculture within that 12%.
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    Joe Michels wabbott
    • 7 days ago

    Thank you. It is a cultural problem with nothing to do with the color of one's skin. We need to start at culture.
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    Bronson Joe Michels
    • 7 days ago

    But what is "culture" and how does it come about? No one has ever been able to answer this question.
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    Joe Michels Bronson
    • 7 days ago

    It comes about through co-ontogenic structural coupling between humans and their environments.

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    wabbott Bronson
    • 7 days ago

    Bronson, 'Culture' is at its base a shared set of values. A 'culture' will emerge spontaneously when people who share certain things (tribe, language, family connection, geographical proximity, religion etc) live together in community for some length of time.
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    turf toe
    • 9 days ago

    This is one of Sowell's best pieces in months, and I'm a blue state liberal.
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    thatsitivehadenough
    • 10 days ago

    I really feel bad that it seems like all blacks are included in these discussions. There are conservative, hard working, successful, simple, honest, observant blacks who are nothing like these being discussed. I just wanted to mention this, to make sure it's always included in any discussion of what problems are being created like the ones in this article. Maybe we can call them entitlement blacks, or something. Something to separate them from the others. Just a thought.
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    Bacchus thatsitivehadenough
    • 4 days ago

    Interesting that you would use 'conservative' as a mark of respectability....
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    Bacchus DB1954
    • 3 days ago

    Well, a number of reasons really. I'm a stranger in a strange land here, so forgive me if I got your dander up. I just find it interesting that you could list someones political stance as a plus point, you know like an attribute?

    Experience has taught me there are kind, decent conservatives and then there are not. Same with liberals, even. Sorry if that sounds a bit mealy mouthed, but the number of times I've thought a person was sensible and pragmatic and then realized they just tow the party line..
    Anyway, I come in the spirit of honest inquiry, so if there is any further reading you could recommend to me I should be grateful for it.

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    thatsitivehadenough Bacchus
    • 4 days ago

    Progressives are dangerous to humanity.
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    Bacchus thatsitivehadenough
    • 4 days ago

    How so?

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    DB1954 Bacchus
    • 4 days ago

    Because they live in a dream world. They're delusional and constitutionally incapable of knowing or acknowledging the truth. They see the world as they would LIKE for it to be, not as it really is. Then they take pride in their "idealism." They never consider that "ideal" reality doesn't exist. It never has in this world, and never will. The self-described George Bernard Shaw said, "Some men dream of things that never were and say why? I dream of things that never were and say why not?" But Shaw also advocated the mass extermination, that is, euthanasia, of all old people too sick or infirm to care for themselves. Old people were simply a drain on the public dole, a waste of public money, according to Shaw and his "progressive" contemporaries. Adolph Hitler had a dream too; so did Mao Tse-Tung, Pol Pot, V.I. Lenin, Karl Marx, and Joseph Stalin. I think you might see the connection in the dreams of each. Dreams aren't reality; and they can lead to real world nightmares, but progressives will never admit that their thinking could ever be flawed in any way. "Progressive" is just another term for self-justifying, malignant narcissism.

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    TMLutas thatsitivehadenough
    • 8 days ago

    You're right about there being fine blacks in America who are a credit to the country. One of them wrote the article.
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    thatsitivehadenough TMLutas
    • 8 days ago

    Yes. I think I was referring to the comments and the way they describe the problem people. I'm Jewish, and when I'm complaining about the left, I'm always careful to say 'Liberal Jews' and not just Jews.
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    slickwillieisaliar thatsitivehadenough
    • 7 days ago

    Not many non "liberal Jews", n'est -ce pas?
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    DB1954 slickwillieisaliar
    • 4 days ago

    You're wrong about that. There are many politically conservative Jews. However, conservative Jews tend to be religious. Not all, but most, I'd say.

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    MorahLaura slickwillieisaliar
    • 5 days ago

    I'm a Jew and I quit my synagogue because I couldn't stand the leftist, Obama-is-great slant behind almost everything they were doing. I guess there aren't many of us, but I'm raising my kids with conservative ideals and to question the leftist assumptions of the media and their teachers.

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    DB1954 MorahLaura
    • 4 days ago

    Good for you, Morah! A thousand high fives ^5s

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    tayronachan
    • 13 days ago

    Some blacks are making a huge future problem for their whole race.
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    roastytoasty
    • 19 days ago

    Here is a video that plainly reveals the deep ignorance of the Leftist proletariat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... The U.S. propaganda-media working hand-in-hand with the absolutely corrupt IRS-financed U.S. bureaucracy brought us to this point. City county state & federal bureaucracy has become the taproot of political power in modern America. The bureaucrats and their Big Media fellow-travelers will not stop until they ARE stopped. How do you get rid of millions of government-paid social workers whose job it is to feed the resentments & hatred of those they purport to serve?
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    cmoak1955yahoocom roastytoasty
    • 6 days ago

    Starve them of operating capital. Be aware of where your money is going. Stop spending it with your enemies. Yes, it's more trouble. More troublesome is the loss of your country.
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    minarchist
    • 20 days ago

    These are the fruits of leftism and have nothing to do with race per se. It is just that blacks, who represent too often the bottom of the economic ladder, are the first victims of collectivism, of exploitation by the monied, political race-mongers selling victimhood and statist redress. What do you expect? Low info voters and young people, many black, are taught by liberals, explicitly and implicitly, that they are not responsible for the state of their lives, that their station in life whatever it may be is the result of exploitation by others (whites), and by an inherently unfair system which has robbed them of their rights to goodies others have obtained, not by their own achievements, and that these goodies can and should be redistributed to redress their ills and for 'social justice'.

    That's part of it. But there is something else going on contributing to the polarization we all see around us. It's economics.

    What many, including Sowell miss, or at least do not express -- to my ongoing annoyance -- and this goes for Limbaugh and O-Reilly as well -- is that such polarization of our society is the inevitable consequence of transferring rational economic decision making from the level of the free individual in the free marketplace satisfying all needs and choices to the political realm which dictates from above.
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    caiusKeys
    • 20 days ago

    Thank you for that Sir.
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    RedMoonProject
    • 22 days ago

    While every group has a certain fraction that lives outside the law, the unfortunate fact is that blacks, who make up only about 12% of the population, account for most of the violent crime that happens in this country. Take away black crime from the statistics, and most areas, even in cities, would be remarkably safe. This fact goes against the politically correct narrative and so is reported only rarely and usually by mistake. Not all blacks are in that group of course, but far too many are. And this problem has been on the rise for a long time.

    The left has destroyed many of the institutions that used to bring stability and order to society, especially in those poor urban areas. With the rise of the welfare state came the breakdown of the family, the decline of the church and the collapse of the public schools. Add chronic unemployment due to leftist meddling in the economy and you have a recipe for the breakdown of civilization. Blacks are particularly subject to this for a variety of economic, educational and cultural reasons that have less of an effect on whites. Murry and Herrnstein wrote about the coming of the custodial state in "The Bell Curve" almost twenty years ago. Today we are seeing the reality of a permanent underclass that is violent, unemployable and an economic drag on the whole of society.
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    bronson RedMoonProject
    • 7 days ago

    Fair enough. But how is Africa any different? Name one functional society where the majority of the population is black. I've always been taught to despise racism. And yet no one can explain why the majority of blacks are so dysfunctional, not only in America, but in every other country on Earth. Where am I going wrong?
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    howardfein
    • 22 days ago

    A race war cannot happen today. Every white has too many black friends, and every black has too many white friends. It's only the politicians preening for votes.
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    Salamagundhi howardfein
    • 6 days ago

    In foreign countries I visit, nearly everyone I speak with has a brother/sister/cousin/friend living in the US. While I'd like to believe that makes the possibility of war with these countries remote, it does not eliminate it entirely.

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    john mcginnis howardfein
    • 20 days ago

    Wishful thinking. In an unfamiliar environment the first primal urge is survival. You - family - friends in that order. If a friend turns to a threat to family or you, you will blow them away if the need arises.
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    aemoreira81
    • 22 days ago

    A discussion will not happen unless it comes organically though. I see many so-called conservatives demanding special rights such as comment on the deaths of whites by blacks by blacks who had nothing to do with the murder...telling me that they are only interested in a profit and not a true discussion...essentially killing the discussion before it starts. If you want an example of what I mean...click over to Breitbart: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-G...

    Think about it: if one is not required to comment on the death of a black at the hands of other blacks, why is a white dying at the hands of blacks so much more special? I see both as equally tragic. But this is a problem with individual blacks...the community is not causing these deaths. I am not sure either side is really interested in a discussion, because all preconditions would have to be dropped.
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    DB1954 aemoreira81
    • 4 days ago

    I've thought about it, but I don't really understand what you're driving at. You declared, "one is not required to comment on the death of a black at the hands of other blacks, why is a white dying at the hands of blacks so much more special?" Well first of all, no one said it WAS "more special" except you. That's merely an inference about others you've drawn from this case. Anyway, there's a sense in which this case IS special: The murdered man was 87, and a WWII veteran. I'm sure he was regarded by everyone as a "special" man, just on account of his military service in WWII. Aside from that, what do you mean "one is not required to comment ...." ? Who is ONE? Do you mean the person who wrote the article? It's not clear who you mean by "one." As for the four accused, the four blacks, the article didn't use the word "profit," did it? A profit is something one earns in a business of some kind. If these four committed the crime, they didn't earn a profit; they STOLE money or something of value from him. That is what is alleged to have been the motive for the crime: the loot, the money or jewelry, or what ever he may have had on him that caused his assailants to rob him. There's no reference in that article to the black community. No one accuses the black community of committing the crime. It's just that the police apparently believe that these particular individuals, who happen to be black, robbed and killed him, and that their motive is believed to have been robbery. They are alleged to have killed him, one can presume, in order to silence him. I see nothing in this article that suggests that if the victim had been black, 87 years old, and a WWII veteran, that the media would not have found that equally tragic and reprehensible. Sorry, but I don't see your point.

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    southern tom aemoreira81
    • 18 days ago

    ...THE COMMUNITY IS causing these deaths, because the community creates the atmosphere that promote the attitudes that allow this to happen...

    ...AND IF there is to be no discussion because of preconditions, then we might as well grab our guns and bring this to a head right now...
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    aemoreira81 southern tom
    • 18 days ago

    No, the community is not. They are not ordering these deaths. Atmosphere is irrelevant in a world with free will. To claim that the atmosphere promotes these deaths means that you deny that you are a human being.

    As for "preconditions"...the big one that prevents a discussion is a demand for condemnation by those having nothing to do with the incident.
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    southern tom aemoreira81
    • 18 days ago


    ...DIDN'T say the community "ordered" the deaths... said the community creates the atmosphere, or, if you'd prefer, it creates the environment... and some environments are toxic, to say the least, and it DOES influence how a human being will think and act...

    ...IT MUST be frustrating for you here... seems very few have shared your point of view now or in the past...
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    In International Warfare Training Manuals this is called L.I.C.

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    LIC is always a precursor to a follow on Civil War

    This is going to get far worse before its over; America is in the begging stages of that civil war
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