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    Quote Originally Posted by AE
    I am a Constitutionalist, but have found that a lot of the media uses the term "independents" loosely as a means to talk about all people who no longer are in the two main parties.

    But not ALL alternative parties are desirable either...lol

    My husband chose long ago to say he was no affiliated with any party on his voters card. He is now beginning to think about going Constitutionalist all the way, committing.
    Good points, bottom line is the Dem/Rep parties are dieing, they know it and we know it, and its going to take along time to undo the damage thats been done when they lose control of the Government.
    “In questions of power…let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” –Thomas Jefferson

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    "Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes the laws." Mayer Amschel Rothschild

    "History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling the money and its issuance." James Madison

    "The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the people versus the banks." Lord Acton

    "We shall have World Government wether or not we like it. The only question is wether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent." James Paul Warburg

    "Banking was concieved in inequity and was born in sin. The Bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create deposits, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all of the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But if you wish to reamin the slaves of Bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create deposits. Sir Josiah Stamp

    "The few who could understand the system will either be so interested in its profits, or so dependent on its favours, that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of the people mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burden without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests." John Sherman

    "Follow the money." Anonymous

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    Roundabout, here's one for you:

    I have always been afraid of banks.
    ~Andrew Jackson~
    He was a man we need to look back to, he cleaned up our debts and made America prospoerous, and always said it like it was.

    an edit insert, thought this one was so applicable today:

    The duty of government is to leave commerce to its own capital and credit as well as all other branches of business, protecting all in their legal pursuits, granting exclusive privileges to none.
    ~Andrew Jackson~
    “In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, Brave, Hated, and Scorned. When his cause succeeds however,the timid join him, For then it costs nothing to be a Patriot.â€

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    They are good ones AE, here is another.

    "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, whom it properly belongs." Thomas Jefferson

    Insight or experience?

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    Terrible insight it seems......we are pretty much there now.
    “In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, Brave, Hated, and Scorned. When his cause succeeds however,the timid join him, For then it costs nothing to be a Patriot.â€

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    Terrible insight it seems......we are pretty much there now.
    Actually we have been there for 94 years this time around.

    "A little group of willful men, representing no opinion but their own, have rendered the great government of the United States helpless and contemptible." Woodrow Wilson

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    Our country is rapidly approaching an entropic collaspe, the main reason for this is we wandered away from our basic american core values, ignored our constititional guidelines & principles, allowed Foreign powers to have a controling interest in our economy, and the list goes on and on. It is the Dems and Repubs that have allowed this to happen, nothing will changed until they are removed. They have betrayed the american people in every aspect possible. There is no sane reason to support them, vote them out.
    “In questions of power…let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” –Thomas Jefferson

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    Reciprocity wrote,
    Our country is rapidly approaching an entropic collaspe, the main reason for this is we wandered away from our basic american core values, ignored our constititional guidelines & principles, allowed Foreign powers to have a controling interest in our economy, and the list goes on and on. It is the Dems and Repubs that have allowed this to happen, nothing will changed until they are removed. They have betrayed the american people in every aspect possible. There is no sane reason to support them, vote them out.
    Well said Reciprocity. We are sailing in unchartered waters. I hope the difficult times last long enough for more people to come out of their trance. With that said, I have been looking for signs as to wether we can sail out of these waters intact (constitutionally speaking) or if the waters are going to get extremely choppy?

    "The history of liberty is a history of resistance." Woodrow Wilson

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    roundabout, that much is true. We just happen to see it in only our own current times.
    “In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, Brave, Hated, and Scorned. When his cause succeeds however,the timid join him, For then it costs nothing to be a Patriot.â€

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    Perhaps a little off topic, but Wonder Boy seems to travel quite a bit. I do not know to much as far as the POTUSS's itinerary or log or schedule would be officially recorded, the white house has a log for all visitors, minutes kept for official meetings, but how would that work when the POTUSS travels? When on the beach or visiting somewhere how much work could get done? How much of that work is recorded or logged? It looks like the Wonder Boy does not like staying at the white house much. How does all of his work get done while travelling so much, and how much is recorded concerning contacts while travelling?

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