Thread: Five Serious Truths About Illegal Immigration That GOP Candidates Have To Accept

Originally Posted by MW

He has said many different things. You're free to pick and choose which interviews you want to believe. One thing Trump hasn't been and that is consistent.

Judy is right on this, heck I'm the one she had a debate with before when she was thinking Trump turned on Amnesty. Trump has never supported Amnesty and what he has said if looked at in full context and not a black and white system has been pretty consistent with what he has said he would do. Yes he talked on a merit system and letting the good ones back after they go home first. This is the key point to sound middle of the road and not *breaking up families* while enforcing the law. In truth though once they are out very few would ever be qualifying to come back and very few would be able to afford an attempt to come back legally as well. Trump is no fool and he knows also that once all the benefits are GONE the vast majority won't even want to come back. None of those illegals want to work for min wage w/o being able to get welfare and other freebies and business's won't been so eager to hire them when they have to pay the same as an American. But saying it with a *Merit System* allows Trump to get to those who aren't so informed who are buying into the whole deporting families BS from the left and RINO's.

Ohh and Judy, while he hasn't committed to the Fair Tax he has a system also which while not great is better then now. Think it was something like $20k under is 1%, 5% for 60k under, then like 10% and caps at 15% for the top. Pretty much a flat tax style w/o loopholes. It would fix a lot of the tax nightmares and while not the best system could be alright.

Originally Posted by ReformUSA2012

Judy is right on this, heck I'm the one she had a debate with before when she was thinking Trump turned on Amnesty. Trump has never supported Amnesty and what he has said if looked at in full context and not a black and white system has been pretty consistent with what he has said he would do. Yes he talked on a merit system and letting the good ones back after they go home first. This is the key point to sound middle of the road and not *breaking up families* while enforcing the law. In truth though once they are out very few would ever be qualifying to come back and very few would be able to afford an attempt to come back legally as well. Trump is no fool and he knows also that once all the benefits are GONE the vast majority won't even want to come back. None of those illegals want to work for min wage w/o being able to get welfare and other freebies and business's won't been so eager to hire them when they have to pay the same as an American. But saying it with a *Merit System* allows Trump to get to those who aren't so informed who are buying into the whole deporting families BS from the left and RINO's.

Ohh and Judy, while he hasn't committed to the Fair Tax he has a system also which while not great is better then now. Think it was something like $20k under is 1%, 5% for 60k under, then like 10% and caps at 15% for the top. Pretty much a flat tax style w/o loopholes. It would fix a lot of the tax nightmares and while not the best system could be alright.

Thank you! Yes, I know about that one, but it's from back in 2011 and the FairTax has gained a lot of steam since then. I know he knows about the FairTax but he may not have studied in depth to understand how it helps stop illegal immigration and free trade treason. Hopefully he'll reach out to someone who does or study it himself and I'm sure once he understands fully how it works which takes a little time unless you have someone very knowledgeable about it walking you through how it works.

We need to work on him for that, I mean this is our chance to possibly get everything we want and need, so tell everyone who supports the FairTax to write him or email him or call him at his campaign headquarters or Trump Towers. He needs to know, because it's so important.

Originally Posted by ReformUSA2012

Judy is right on this, heck I'm the one she had a debate with before when she was thinking Trump turned on Amnesty. Trump has never supported Amnesty and what he has said if looked at in full context and not a black and white system has been pretty consistent with what he has said he would do. Yes he talked on a merit system and letting the good ones back after they go home first. This is the key point to sound middle of the road and not *breaking up families* while enforcing the law. In truth though once they are out very few would ever be qualifying to come back and very few would be able to afford an attempt to come back legally as well. Trump is no fool and he knows also that once all the benefits are GONE the vast majority won't even want to come back. None of those illegals want to work for min wage w/o being able to get welfare and other freebies and business's won't been so eager to hire them when they have to pay the same as an American. But saying it with a *Merit System* allows Trump to get to those who aren't so informed who are buying into the whole deporting families BS from the left and RINO's.

Ohh and Judy, while he hasn't committed to the Fair Tax he has a system also which while not great is better then now. Think it was something like $20k under is 1%, 5% for 60k under, then like 10% and caps at 15% for the top. Pretty much a flat tax style w/o loopholes. It would fix a lot of the tax nightmares and while not the best system could be alright.

I guess this would depend upon your definition of amnesty. Expediting the return of the so-called "good ones" is a reward and amnesty. To expedite would mean to move to the front of the line. A merit system would mean rewarding them (illegals) for being the "good ones." That too is amnesty. Any reward given that includes the return of an illegal alien that is not in accordance with our written immigration law is amnesty.

Originally Posted by MW

I guess this would depend upon your definition of amnesty. Expediting the return of the so-called "good ones" is a reward and amnesty. To expedite would mean to move to the front of the line. A merit system would mean rewarding them (illegals) for being the "good ones." That too is amnesty. Any reward given that includes the return of an illegal alien that is not in accordance with our written immigration law is amnesty.

Trump has already stated over and over he wants a "pause" on immigration, he wants a "freeze" on green cards, he wants to forbid H1B and J-1 visas through enforcement and higher wages, and no one can come in under the Trump plan unless they can show they can sustain themselves and pay for all their own needs, so there will be no line.

Originally Posted by Judy

Trump has already stated over and over he wants a "pause" on immigration, he wants a "freeze" on green cards, he wants to forbid H1B and J-1 visas through enforcement and higher wages, and no one can come in under the Trump plan unless they can show they can sustain themselves and pay for all their own needs, so there will be no line.

What exactly is it that you don't understand about the term expedited return?

ex·pe·dite
/ˈekspəˌdīt/
verb

1. make (an action or process) happen sooner or be accomplished more quickly.

   synonyms:

   speed up, accelerate, hurry, hasten, step up, quicken, precipitate,dispatch, advance, facilitate, ease, make easier, further, promote, aid, push through, urge on, boost, stimulate, spur on, help along, catalyze,fast-track

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/08/16/ron-fournier-donald-trumps-policy-is-gold-plated-amnesty/

Do you think I don't know what the word expedite means? Really, MW?

Now show me where there's "a line" in your definition.

By the way, I used the "quick" reply button to post this and guess what? There's no one behind me.