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    Bridget Bardot

    The lady was and still is "a babe!" I may not be a follower of her animal rights positions, but she at least respects opposition opinions. Apparently there are many in France who seek to silence an opposition opinion.
    What is happening in France & elsewhere, & what many intend for America, is cultural destruction. Some say its an effort of cultural jihad.

    Bardot may be facing prosecution for her opinions, but her new president may also be leading the return to French culturalism that will allow her to openly voice her opinion as her ancestors intended.
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    So being Muslim is a "race"? I thought people of all races were Muslims. Kind of like saying only Christians are European white. Granted the majority are from middle-eastern countries but it's obviously attracting more than just that group of people.

    I swear groups like LaRaza probably seriously study what things like this are successful in other countries and try to pull it off here. It's scarey our rights and freedoms can be abused by such means when the majority are a certain race in a particular problem. Whether it's illegal immigration, relegion, or massive cultural shifts where people see their country change to something they don't like or want by a group who comes and refuses to even try and adapt.

    I did read there was alot of illegal immigration to France from mostly Africa and Egypt. The fact was there simply wasn't enough jobs to take care of all of the people wanting to come there. They weren't comming there to be a part of the country...they just wanted jobs to send their money back home. They interviewed a black man in the article I read who was a legal citizen...may have been by a few generations, I don't remember for sure. He said he never experienced racism there. Always felt a part of France.....but when they had such a surge of so many it was becomming more common for people to ask "when did you get here" assuming he must be a new immigrants as well, than to somehow know he was a citizen. He said they called it "racism" but he didn't agree......it was an obvious problem effecting all people and he even had to wonder with each person he met if they were legal, illegal, a citizen, tourist or what. No one knew anymore......jobs were gone.....people felt like strangers in their own country......long time businesses being run out because a different "culture" of new people took over their neighborhoods. Sounded exactly like what they are saying across the world in all the areas being heavily hit by massive immigration. Same exact problems and from people of every race.....just depended what country was closest as to what "race" the majority were. Bottom line was there just wasn't enough jobs to go around and finding a way to "get along" was becomming impossible because of language and relegious differences and people not caring about the country, the culture or anything else.....yet expecting the citizens to just "go away" or shut up from expressing their problems with these massive shifts going on.

    He noted that many of the countries people were immigrating from were NOT racially diverse or tolerant of any differences...so if there was "racism"....it was brought in and people were reacting to it...rather than the citizens of the country being "racist" against the immigrants.

    I remember reading that and a few other stories from that area and I could swear there was a world wide pre-printed agenda that each and every group used because it was verbatem to everything we hear. "Racism" being the #1 all encompasing accusation for anything and everything.
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    Re: Bridget Bardot

    Quote Originally Posted by Rubicon
    The lady was and still is "a babe!" I may not be a follower of her animal rights positions, but she at least respects opposition opinions. Apparently there are many in France who seek to silence an opposition opinion.
    What is happening in France & elsewhere, & what many intend for America, is cultural destruction. Some say its an effort of cultural jihad.

    Bardot may be facing prosecution for her opinions, but her new president may also be leading the return to French culturalism that will allow her to openly voice her opinion as her ancestors intended.
    She's a very gutsy woman, who is saying what she sees happening to her country. She has the courage and common sense, to sound a warning about the Islamization of France. Hopefully, her example will instill some backbone in her countrymen who are remaining silent on the issue.

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    We need to send her a political refugee visa.
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    We need to go to the streets and make our voices heard, loud and clear. This way maybe we can awake America about what can happen to us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miguelina
    Actually, this may wake more people up. She's an idol for many of today's actors/actresses. Where's Pam Anderson and PETA when illegal aliens cock-fights and dog-fights are exposed? Illegal immigration will be the downfall of PETA, abortion rights, free speech, etc.
    The only ironic beauty of it will be watching the liberal left when they realize they just allowed citizenship and voting rights to a large block of Muslims and devout Mexican Roman Catholics that are firmly against legalized abortion on demand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIPAC
    Also, does anyone know what law she is charged under and if the French put that law in place before or after the formation of the European Union?
    She might be facing charges related to the following articles that deal with "Offences Against the Dignity of Persons". (Link goes to LegiFrance)

    http://195.83.177.9/code/liste.phtml?la ... =33&r=3716

    ARTICLE 225-1

    Discrimination comprises any distinction applied between natural persons by reason of their origin, sex, family situation, physical appearance or patronymic, state of health, handicap, genetic characteristics, sexual morals or orientation, age, political opinions, union activities, or their membership or non-membership, true or supposed, of a given ethnic group, nation, race or religion.

    Discrimination also comprises any distinction applied between legal persons by reason of the origin, sex, family situation, physical appearance or patronymic, state of health, handicap, genetic characteristics, sexual morals or orientation, age, political opinions, union activities, membership or non-membership, true or supposed, of a given ethnic group, nation, race or religion of one or more members of these legal persons.

    ARTICLE 225-2

    Discrimination defined by article 225-1, committed against a natural or legal person, is punished by three years' imprisonment and a fine of €45,000 where it consists:
    1: of the refusal to supply goods or services;
    2: of obstructing the normal exercise of any given economic activity;
    3: of the refusal to hire, to sanction or to dismiss a person;
    4: of subjecting the supply of goods or services to a condition based on one of the factors referred to under article 225-1;
    5: of subjecting an offer of employment, an application for a course or a training period to a condition based on one of the factors referred to under article 225-1;
    6 : of refusing to accept a person onto one of the courses referred to under 2 ° of article L.412-8 of the Social Security Code.
    Where the discriminatory refusal referred to under 1 ° is committed in a public place or in order to bar the access to this place, the penalties are increased to five years' imprisonment and to a fine of €75,000.

    Continues....
    Some other articles of 225 can be found at: http://195.83.177.9/code/resultat.phtml ... ds=&tr=one
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    Anti-discrimination laws are very much needed in any country where discrimination exists against any individual or group as described in the categories listed above. However, no law should infringe upon an individual's right to the freedom of speech... the freedom to voice their thoughts and opinions in regard to a particular subject or situation. If people are not allowed to speak one's mind, how would they be able to get their point across? How would they be able to speak out to others in regard to situations that may be threatening the lives of individuals, national citizens, or even the nation in particular?

    I wonder if France has taken action against those militant factions of Muslims who have openly marched in the streets carrying signs and banners and threatening to conquer France; all of Europe and eventually the entire world? After all, isn't that discrimination against French citizens? Isn't that discrimination against another religion? Should they, themselves, not be brought to trial and eventually deported? France is not the only European nation facing these problems since the establishment of the European Union. The Netherlands and Denmark have been having severe problems in this manner as well as England, even though the latter has not fully entered into all aspects of the EU.

    So what is one to do if they find themselves saddled with a situation in which foreign nationals of another nation openly and blatantly proclaim themselves to have every right to do what they wish in another person's country that is not of their legal citizenship; that they can take what they want, including the country itself and that the citizens of one's country should be made to pay for everything the foreign nationals want and do? Keep politically-correctly silent? I think not. It is not racist to speak up against any one individual or group which blatantly threatens a hostile take over of one's own country. It's not racist to speak up against people who break a nation's laws and threaten the security of that nation's citizenship. It is not racist to speak up against people who threaten violence against any citizen of a country that is not their own.

    People all too often play the race card when race doesn't even come into the picture. At least, so far, here in the United States we have a trump card to fall back upon: the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, which guarantees an individual's right to the freedom of speech. Most educated people would never consciously speak words that would hurt others of a different race, nationality, creed or culture. But what is one to do if an individual or groups of individuals of another race, nationality, creed or culture verbally, demonstrably and vehemently threatens one's own race, nationality, creed or culture? Remain silent? Say nothing so that their behaviors may increase and their actions may flourish? Again, I think not. It's called speaking up in one's own defense. Speaking up in defense of our country. Speaking up, period!

    What is now happening in Europe can easily spread to the United States if we allow it to happen. Americans have become all too complacent over the years for fear of being labeled "politically incorrect." As I mentioned before, the term "political correctness" is nothing more than a subliminal means of silencing those who do not go along with a political agenda that is not in full agreement with a proponent's agenda. The National Socialist Party of Germany used this method of silencing others who did not agree with their agenda as early as the late 1920's: slowly at first, then quickly and brutally as they quickly came into power in the 1930's.

    What does this have to do with Illegal Immigration in America? Well, this May Day, if you go to some of the marches held in honor of Illegal Immigrants... take a look at some of the signs and placards. See how many placards carry the images of Communist leaders like Che Guevara, Fidel Castro or even, in extreme cases, Lenin! Read how many signs proclaim a takeover of the United States. See for yourself how many red flags with the gold star or the hammer and sickle are among the crowds. If you can, take pictures of all those anti-American factions but do it peacefully. Then, send those pictures to your state and national elected officials, so that they, too, may be educated about what some of them may be supporting.

    Oh sure, just speaking up about all of this will cause most uneducated people to label those of us who are against Socialism and Communism as "Joe McCarthys." Well let me say this. Yes, what Senator Joseph McCarthy did in the 1950's was wrong. In searching out actual practicing Communist subversives, he ruined the lives of many innocent people through witch-hunt tactics and other actions which generated fear among many U.S. Citizens. Subversive activities could have been weeded out in other ways. But that was then and this is now.

    What we are dealing with now are groups of people who are openly and blatantly proclaiming Socialist and Communist support of a group of people who are breaking our laws and threatening our own national security and the safety of our citizens; especially if Mexico is allowing possible Middle Eastern territorists through our borders as has been reported in the recent past. We are dealing with people who openly proclaim their supposed right to take over our country, carrying signs with that sentiment in both English and Spanish. And we are expected to remain silent about all of this? Karl Marx would love it! After all, Karl Marx once said that with open borders, Socialism can readily take over any nation. We're seeing it happen in Europe. This is why it is important for all Americans to exercise the rights that are guaranteed to all U.S. Citizens by our Constitution. It is not politically incorrect to speak up! It is politically incorrect to remain silent!

    It always takes the actions of a celebrity to awaken the consciousness of most Americans today. Ms. Bardot is enduring the injustice of life in an increasingly Socialist regime... although France is trying to regain its national identity and traditions in the quagmire of a Socialist inclined European Union. Well, in closing, let me share the words of an American celebrity who only recently left us. Charlton Heston, in his book "The Courage to Be Free!" has given us many words of wisdom to live by. In regard to the clandestine, but steadily increasing Socialism that is happening today, he said:

    "Remember that when you are being told what to think, it always follows that you will be told what to do."

    And with that, I say: So Let It Be Written. So Let It Be Done.
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    What does this have to do with Illegal Immigration in America? Well, this May Day, if you go to some of the marches held in honor of Illegal Immigrants... take a look at some of the signs and placards. See how many placards carry the images of Communist leaders like Che Guevara, Fidel Castro or even, in extreme cases, Lenin! Read how many signs proclaim a takeover of the United States. See for yourself how many red flags with the gold star or the hammer and sickle are among the crowds. If you can, take pictures of all those anti-American factions but do it peacefully. Then, send those pictures to your state and national elected officials, so that they, too, may be educated about what some of them may be supporting.
    I don't know what to make of the Left seizing upon immigration as their current cause celebre. They're supposed to be for cultural self-determination, right? Leftists are both brilliant and wrong! They are internationally minded---enough to know that the West does have a much better standard of living than the rest of the world. And they are accurate that we got some of that by utilizing the weakness of the rest of the world.
    But these other cultures were imperialistic in their own right; Cortez took the gold out of the New World, true, but he also stopped the Aztecs from killing tens of thousands of people per year. And Leftists ignore the systematic way that the West has built upon a legacy of discoveries--held together by our system of education.

    But Leftists come in a wide variety--so when I see a discussion about Anarchists I know their ideals are different than others. Anarchists are supposed to believe that everyone has an equal voice--it's the Leninist and Maoist types who believe in the Party elite running things. Also Anarchists are usually craftsmen and industrial workers whereas Leninists and other personality cult types are more bureaucratic or intellectual in the work they do. They all would like individuals to give up rights to their own ideas for the common good but Anarchists have a more grass roots, "commoner" approach whereas Party elites just want you to shut up and learn, even if their philosophical crap is way over your head.

    They all used to be critical of the role of religion--arguing that it was a mere bandaid sapping strength from "systemic change." But religious assistance strategies to developing countries have made HUGE changes in the last few decades. We've gone from one worker barely making a difference---to volunteers who train scores of people to carry on their contribution.

    I also think a broader understanding of history should rightly take away the criticism that Left wingers have of Europe and the West. Great Britain and the US had 150-200 years of slavery. The Muslim world had about a thousand or more, with some really audacious cultural chauvinism as well, such as making Eunuchs of people. Today, when I am talking to Anarchist immigration supporters I have some literature I can give them about various philanthropic projects in developing countries and I ask them how that can be labeled "Hate?" When talking to any person who has such a critical view of America I think the facts would show something different.
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    Yeah we think illegal immigration is bad now. Just wait till our country of The United States is merged with Mexico and Canada. We will be flooded with all these forgeign nationals and and there won't be a darn thing we will be able to do about it. STOP THE NAU!!

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