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    GRAPHIC CONTENT–’CARLY FIORINA WAS RIGHT': GROUP RELEASES FULL ABORTION VIDEO MENTION

    GRAPHIC CONTENT–’CARLY FIORINA WAS RIGHT': GROUP RELEASES FULL ABORTION VIDEO MENTIONED IN GOP DEBATE


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    by JOHN SEXTON29 Sep 20155,010

    **WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT**

    The Center for Bioethical Reform, in partnership with the Grantham collection, has released the full version of a video which became a source of political controversy after the 2nd Republican debate.

    The 13 minute long video shows the birth of what CBR describes as a “17 1/2 week fetus.” The fetus is placed in a metal pan with a clamp attached to its umbilical cord. A comparison demonstrates the new video is the source of the brief segment that appeared in a video produced by the Center for Medical Progress (CMP), a pro-life investigatory group which has produced undercover videos critical of Planned Parenthood.



    During CNN’s Republican primary debate on September 16, Carly Fiorina challenged Hillary Clinton to watch a video clip which showed “a fully formed fetus on the table, its heart beating, its legs kicking, while someone says, ‘We have to keep it alive to harvest its brain.’”

    After the debate, various news outlets claimed to be unable to locate any such video. In a post titled, “Carly Fiorina is wrong about the Planned Parenthood tapes. I know because I watched them,” Vox‘s Sarah Kliff said the video was “pure fiction.” Kliff later updated her story after a link to the video in question was provided by the Federalist‘s Mollie Hemingway.

    The graphic video of a “fully formed fetus… its legs kicking” appears in episode 3 of a multi-part documentary produced by the Center for Medical Progress (CMP). This video shows former tissue procurement specialist Holly O’Donnell describing how she was shown an intact fetus with a beating heart. O’Donnell says of this moment, “I don’t know if that constitutes it’s technically dead, or it’s alive.” O’Donnell was then asked to harvest brain tissue from the same fetus by cutting through its face.

    As O’Donnell narrates her gruesome experience, the video shifts to 10 seconds of a fetus in a metal bowl which is still moving. The video is clearly labeled as coming from the Grantham Collection & Center for Bioethical Reform. It is not video of the fetus O’Donnell is describing but was inserted by the producers to illustrate what a living fetus at this gestation would look like.
    The Examiner helpfully broke down the claims made by Carly Fiorina as follows:

    A) Footage of a baby who survived an abortion — notably, this baby may not have been at Planned Parenthood*, and we have no reason to think he or she was cut up for his or her organs.
    B) Abortion clinic officials saying things that could suggest they may deliver live babies, rather than abort them, in order to preserve the value of the body parts.
    C) The first-hand account of former biotech worker Holly O’Donnell, who described an aborted baby boy whose heart was still beating and who was cut up for his brain.

    Carly Fiorina appears to have conflated the video of the fetus with the story being told by O’Donnell at the same time. It’s fair to say Fiorina’s description was incorrect to the degree it treated both incidents as relating to one fetus; however, both the brain harvesting incident and the video of a fully formed, kicking fetus are real.

    Breitbart News spoke to the source of the video, the Center for Bioethical Reform, last week. CBR’s Gregg Cunningham said at the time, “This is an absolutely real video of an abortion.” He added, “People always try to claim the images and video are not real.” Cunningham explained that their agreement with abortion clinics strictly prevents them from releasing any information which might lead to the clinic being identified. A press release today states, “Violating these prohibitions could subject CBR to legal liability and jeopardize clinic access for current and future projects. We are even obligated to delete the audio track on all of our videos.”

    As for the documentary produced by the Center for Medical Progress, Cunningham explained that he allowed his video to be used by CMP on one condition, that it was clearly labeled so their would be no misunderstanding about what was being shown. Cunningham says he believes CMP’s David Daleiden lived up to that requirement: “I feel that he, in a very intellectually honest way, indicated that this was not part of his undercover work.” He added, “I feel that he’s being held to an unfair standard.”

    Breitbart News is providing the full video released by the Center for Bioethical Reform so viewers can verify for themselves that this is the source of the brief clip previously seen in the CMP documentary which led to its being described in the GOP debate. CBR released the clip early Tuesday morning with the title “Carly Fiorina was right.”

    Warning to Readers: This video is extremely graphic and includes the fetus being expelled from a woman’s body as well as images of the fetus in the metal bowl. The section that appeared in the CMP video clip can be found at about 3:40 into this clip.

    VIDEO IS AT THE LINK:

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...in-gop-debate/


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    Newmexican, that article is false. That is not the video that was licensed to Carly Fiorina by Gregg Cunningham of the Center for Bio-Ethical Reform. That 13 minute video in your article was not filmed at Planned Parenthood. It's also not an aborted fetus, but a miscarriage. Carly Fiorina lied. David Daleiden lied and committed fraud and GOP members of Congress have lied. This fraud is making a laughingstock of the Republican Party and if it does not stop now, these films of these ridiculous fiascos will cost Republicans elections. 65% of the American public wants continued funding for Planned Parenthood.

    http://www.alipac.us/f19/retired-int...aganda-323854/
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    wtg judy
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    This is absolutely disgusting and anyone that supports it should examine their morality!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    This is absolutely disgusting and anyone that supports it should examine their morality!
    That is not an aborted fetus. That is a stillborn from a miscarriage. David Daleiden has already confessed to it this morning on CNN under questioning by Chris Cuomo. The whole thing has been a scam and a fraud. The Pro-Life Movement has make a mockery of Congress making utter fools of these Congresscritters, not to mention making liars and fanatics out of Presidential candidates like Carly Fiorina, Rand Paul, Mike Huckabee, Ted Cruz, Chris Christie, Bobby Jindal, Lindsey Graham, Rick Santorum, Ben Carson, Jeb Bush, and I guess everyone except the Wise One, Donald Trump who had both the intelligence and temperament not to pre-judge a women's health agency over unverified presentations and potentially false allegations as they turned out to be.

    Trump, the only one, who didn't over-react, who didn't want to throw Planned Parenthood down the tubes over potential misunderstandings or falsehoods, even though he said abortions should not be funded with federal money, which they aren't and haven't been since 1974, except in 3 instances, rape, incest or to save the life of the girl or woman.

    Trump is the man and the only grown-up in the GOP Race.
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    Then Breitbart should have a retraction in the works.
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    Judy wrote:

    Trump, the only one, who didn't over-react, who didn't want to throw Planned Parenthood down the tubes over potential misunderstandings or falsehoods, even though he said abortions should not be funded with federal money, which they aren't and haven't been since 1974, except in 3 instances, rape, incest or to save the life of the girl or woman.
    It is true, by law, that abortions aren't to be federally funded. However, even though they aren't funded directly, I think most of us know they are funded indirectly. Federal money allows the organization to free up money for the abortions. So basically without federal funding there would be no funding for the abortions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Newmexican View Post
    Then Breitbart should have a retraction in the works.
    Yep, guess we can expect to see it any time now. Forgive me for holding my breath while I wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    Yep, guess we can expect to see it any time now. Forgive me for holding my breath while I wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Newmexican View Post
    Then Breitbart should have a retraction in the works.
    Absolutely they should. Or they might end up being sued.

    I don't understand how these news agencies can be so irresponsible. It takes so little research these days to get to the bottom of something like this before you print or air it. In the edited version of the tapes recording the conversations with some people from Planned Parenthood, they had cut out the fact that the type of procedure done to remove body parts can't even be done at a Planned Parenthood facility and Planned Parenthood lawyers have never approved them being a middleman for these types of transfers so they don't do those, just fetal tissues, not parts, for research.
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