Thread: I really just want to give it all back...

Hispanics do get their own to vote for them. I was once told by an university instructor I had that to run for judge in Miami, you had to be Hispanic or you are wasting your time. There are a lot of Hispanics with political powers at the city and county level in Miami Dade County.
They have been less successful at the governor level as the rest of Florida is not as prodominately Hispanic. We have one senator that is Hispanic but he is against illegals as are most Cubans are.

Originally Posted by socal

Originally Posted by CrocketsGhost

By that criterion, the Nazis were the pinnacle of humanity. After all, German industry under Hitler was second to none. The highway system became a model for the industrialized world. Science and technology was cutting edge.

For my part, I judge civilizations by their moral and ethical codes, not by whether they had adequate waste disposal systems or flourishing markets. The Aztecs were cannibalistic human sacrificing animals who should have gone the way of the Karankawas.

Seems to me that Germans lost control of their government, just like we're in process of. They should have impeached Hitler, just like we should impeach Bush before it's too late.
We must kick the people who refuse to enforce our laws out of the government, or we'll pay for that omission dearly.

Well, we should have impeached Clinton before he signed on to NAFTA and GATT, and we probably should have removed George H.W. Bush as soon as he started chirping about the New World Order. We should have impeached LBJ as well, and we probably should have tried FDR for treason. Shoulda, woulda, coulda. The fact is that agreements are signed and the laws are in place. Removing a single politico won't accomplish anything. What is required is MUCH larger than that.

OK, Crockett, I'm ready - but if we wait until the President and our Gov. puts all those new 'clean'burning' power plants in Texas, we might as well give it to the Mexicans.

Originally Posted by nntrixie

OK, Crockett, I'm ready - but if we wait until the President and our Gov. puts all those new 'clean'burning' power plants in Texas, we might as well give it to the Mexicans.

I guess I'm missing the connection...

I guess I'm missing the connection...

That didn't make a lot of sense, did it?

Really, I guess I am saying it doesn't matter what we do in Texas, either the illegals or the coal-burning plants are going to get us.

I don't know which bothers me the most - I might be able to live with illegals - but not sure if we can when they add those plants - and beginning digging up the state for the coal to feed them.

Pay no attention to me -

I'd much prefer the pollution

Originally Posted by nntrixie

I guess I'm missing the connection...

That didn't make a lot of sense, did it?

Really, I guess I am saying it doesn't matter what we do in Texas, either the illegals or the coal-burning plants are going to get us.

I don't know which bothers me the most - I might be able to live with illegals - but not sure if we can when they add those plants - and beginning digging up the state for the coal to feed them.

Pay no attention to me -

Actually, I used to be part owner of a fuel additive company that provided solutions for petroleum fired plants that were out of compliance (among other things). One of the things that I learned that really surprised me is how cleanly these new coal-fired plants burn. The complaining about these plants is just media-induced hysteria. I recommend that you do some research into relative emissions of the various power generation plants. Of course natural gas is cleanest, but coal is cheap and a good choice for adding power near peak load.

EPA Toxic Release Inventory data ranks TXU’s Monticello plant in East Texas as the worst in the nation now.

I lived about 15 years or more within 4 miles of this particular plant. While it may be cleaner burning than maybe some other fuel - it is definitely not 'clean burning'. I would question the 'cleaner' -

It isn't media induced hysteria with me - it is first hand knowledge.

Andyt, as for taking the pollution - that's a pretty tough choice there isn't it?

Having lived with the pollution and the illegals - I may have a different view, but, I don't want more of either.

Nntrixie: It is a hard call. I have lived near the pollution from steel mills up north and currently live in Miami with lots of illegals around. You can move further away from the pollution but escaping illegals maybe harder. It seems that they are almost everywhere. Hard call.

Originally Posted by nntrixie

EPA Toxic Release Inventory data ranks TXU’s Monticello plant in East Texas as the worst in the nation now.

I lived about 15 years or more within 4 miles of this particular plant. While it may be cleaner burning than maybe some other fuel - it is definitely not 'clean burning'. I would question the 'cleaner' -

It isn't media induced hysteria with me - it is first hand knowledge.

Andyt, as for taking the pollution - that's a pretty tough choice there isn't it?

Having lived with the pollution and the illegals - I may have a different view, but, I don't want more of either.

Do you have a link for that ranking?