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    We already had a self-deport pilot program implemented last year by DHS I believe. That program proved to be an embarrassment to the agency because ironically, very few illegal invaders came forward and agreed to be deported.

    I would expect Simcox to have known that.

    The program was dismantled after a month, or so if my recollection serves me correctly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjaramillo
    Yet Simcox agreed with others that society cannot afford the kind of social friction that immigration debates create. "We're all victims of government failure -- in Arizona and in Washington, D.C.," he said. "We need a compromise. And I'm willing to lead that compromise."
    George Washington didn't compromise. Douglass MacArthur didn't compromise. George Patton didn't compromise. A compromise still means no more USA, it will just take a few years longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjaramillo
    Quote Originally Posted by MW

    Should we allow illegals with children under 18 years of age the right to U.S. citizenship?
    If we do, then we have to give the parents citizenship as well.
    This illustrates what happens when we're no longer willing to put Americans first in this magnificent country. In effect we're faced with a choice between deporting them or legalizing them.

    And of course no one in this administration is willing to face up to the need for rigorous enforcement of American laws re hiring illegals, deporting illegals, preventing illegals from receiving public assistance, etc. - and all in the name of family unification. And don't even think about a moritorium on immigration while we construct a policy which is to our advantage.

    Americans first in this magnificent country. Anything else will fail.

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    Should we allow illegals with children under 18 years of age the right to U.S. citizenship?
    I mis-read that the first time.

    If we give it to their children, we have to give it to them.

    We can not have a bunch of kids running around in American group homes and foster care, living off the tax-payers dollar, while their parents are living in Mexico.

    Deport them all - make the kids go with them. I would rather see the US spend money to help Mexico help its people IN Mexico than on raising Mexico's children here in the US.

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    I disagree they should all leave and come in the right way like the other 2 1/2 million others every year and if you can not get in tooo bad, we can not have everything we want!
    America can only take so many there has to be limit.....it is called over population!


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    Bowman wrote:

    George Washington didn't compromise. Douglass MacArthur didn't compromise. George Patton didn't compromise. A compromise still means no more USA, it will just take a few years longer.
    A compromise is exactly what the comprehensive immigration reform (amnesty) advocates are looking for.

    I would like to hear William's take on the Chris Simcox position.

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    I do not agree with Simcox and I am kind of shocked to read his comments ! WTF? I wonder if his minute men know his true feelings?
    We can't deport them all ? Just think of the fun we could have trying!

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