Thread: JEB BUSH

Are you talking to me, Jeff.

Nothing racist in my post - not even close - a long way from it.

This thread kinda got twisted here.

I was commenting on the fact that V. Fox and Ms. Bush are apparently from the same state in Mexico. That seems kinda coincidental to me.

Please clear this up.

Let me make this clear.

Mrs. Jeb Bush is from Mexico. She is from the state of Guanajuato.

I just found that out. I knew she was Hispanic, but someone on TV had denied she was originally from Mexico.

Now Vicente Fox is also from Guanajuato.

Since Mr. Fox is causing our country a lot of trouble, and I find that the sister-in-law of the President of our country (who is also causing this country a lot of grief and is good buddies with Mr. Fox) are from the same state in Mexico.

I think that could be significant.

Don't go looking for things in my posts that aren't there.

I said nothing racist, I implied nothing racist, I smirked nothing racist.

The subject was possible connection of a powerful family and a foreign president that is destroying this country.

You may recall that "Poppy" would refer to Jeb's kids as "the little brown ones."

Remember George P....the post I had up a few weeks ago?
http://www.amren.com/009issue/009issue.html

George P. Bush is the son of Florida Governor Jeb Bush and his Mexican-born wife Columba – which makes him the nephew of the Republican candidate for President. At a recent Republican rally he spoke in fluent Spanish about how his mother had instilled in him the values of Cesar Chavez, the Chicano who organized farmworkers. "She told me we have to fight for our race, we have to find the leaders who represent us," he said. About his uncle the candidate, he said, "This is a President who represents the diversity of our society, who we can count on to change the Republican Party to represent our views." (Reuters, Aug. 2, 2000)

George P is also the president of the president of the Florida-Cuba Federation
"During the first term of the presidency of George W. Bush (whose nephew George P. Bush is now the president of the Florida-Cuba Federation), he and his aides saw China as a 'strategic competitor' (the Pentagon) and as an important trade partner (corporate America), and committed themselves to place the relationship with Beijing at the top of Washington's global agenda.
http://www.iran-daily.com/1385/2544/html/dotcoms.htm

At a recent Republican rally he spoke in fluent Spanish about how his mother had instilled in him the values of Cesar Chavez, the Chicano who organized farmworkers. "She told me we have to fight for our race, we have to find the leaders who represent us," he said.

Racist, Racist, Racist!!! He should have said that we need to find the leaders who represent all of us, rather than just 'our race'. His mother, Columba, has contaminated her own son with racist lies.

I posted this on May 11, It is about the political aspirations to the Bush Dynasty
This is from 2004.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections20 ... 81,00.html

He's young, good looking, and Hispanic - could he be the next George Bush in the White House?

Dan Glaister in Los Angeles
Tuesday August 31, 2004
The Guardian


The polished young man speaking on Univision, the biggest Spanish-language TV channel in the US, might have been a movie star. Or perhaps, with his fluent Spanish and handsome features, a sports star.
Or he might be the next member of the Bush dynasty to take to the political stage and become possibly, just possibly, the first Hispanic president of the US.

Meet George P Bush, 28, nephew to W, grandson of H, son of Jeb.


"George P Bush is a tremendous asset to the family," said Dario Moreno, director of Florida International University's Metropolitan Centre. "He's obviously Hispanic, he's an attractive young man, he's articulate and he's a Bush. That's a powerful combination. It raises the dynastic possibility, and it could be a hoot if the first Hispanic president of the US is a Bush."
George P Bush's TV appearance last week came as he completed a four-day swing through Mexico, ostensibly to encourage US citizens living abroad - there are 1 million in Mexico - to vote in November's election, preferably for his uncle.

But the visit also served to remind the Latino community that he is there and to let them know that his uncle and the whole family understand the Latino experience.

With over 6.7 million Latinos expected to vote in November's election, their votes are crucial, especially in Florida, the state which handed the election to George W Bush in 2000 by a little over 500 votes.

With a large Cuban-American population, it is vital for Republicans and Democrats to mobilise support in the state. The Republicans have several advantages: Cuban-Americans tend, unlike most other Latino groups, to vote Republican; and they have the president's brother, Jeb, Florida's governor, to help remind them. And now they have Jeb's son to help them make up their minds.

George P Bush - the P stands for Prescott - is the son of Jeb Bush, the president's brother and governor of Florida, and his wife Columba, who was born in Mexico, the daughter of migrant worker José María Garnica.

Celebrity


George P first emerged as a political asset in the 2000 presidential campaign, when he gave a well-received speech at the Republican national convention and appeared in Spanish-language TV commercials for his uncle's campaign. He also became a minor celebrity, making his way on to a list of the nation's 100 most eligible bachelors.

He studied law at the University of Texas at Austin, where he met his wife, Amanda, whom he married earlier this month at a ceremony attended by the entire Bush family. Earlier this year he left his position as an assistant to a Dallas judge and spent the summer as an intern with two leading south Florida law firms.

"That strengthens the family's political base in Miami," said Mr Moreno. "And it lays the groundwork for an eventual entry into politics. It seems clear to me that he's being groomed."

George P's trip to Mexico, however, did not go entirely smoothly. He made outspoken comments about events in Venezuela, calling President Hugo Chávez a dictator, an epithet his uncle's administration has strenuously avoided of late, and waded into a controversy about the US border patrol's use of guns which fire plastic pellets packed with chili powder.

"If there has been American approval for this policy, that is reprehensible," Mr Bush said. "It's kind of barbarous." He blamed the use of the guns on "some local INS [immigration service] guy who's trying to be tough, act macho." In fact, the use of the guns is federal policy.

But he made good use of his proximity to power, referring constantly to "mi tío" - my uncle - and promising that with the war in Iraq "almost done with", his uncle will turn his attention back to relations between the US and the countries that lie to the south.

"There's a long tradition in American politics of using surrogates," said Harry Pachon, president of the Tomás Rivera Policy Institute, an independent thinktank in Los Angeles. "The young Bush is an excellent example. He's very confident, he speaks Spanish. I can see him being used for outreach to Latinos." However, a survey published last month by the thinktank of 1,600 registered Latino voters across the country found that while they liked the current president on a personal basis, they did not agree with his policies. And the judgment was based not on issues to do with immigration, but the war in Iraq, the economy, and education.

Although President Bush captured 35% of registered Latino voters in 2000, the survey showed John Kerry, the Democratic nominee, claiming 60% of registered Latino voters this year and Mr Bush 30%.

"Fourteen percent of marines are Hispanic," said Dr Pachon. "The war in Iraq is not a distant event. They can make a distinction between the man and his policies. It shows that they are an increasingly sophisticated part of the electorate."

That sophistication, said Mr Moreno, might find its reflection in the president's nephew. "He shows that not all Hispanics are poor Mexican immigrants. It's a very powerful message. He represents how much the country has changed. Here's an old Yankee family that has a Hispanic in it.

"Hispanics see a Hispanic, but they also see a grandson and a nephew of two American presidents. They know his experience is very different from theirs. But there's a pride and a recognition of how the stereotypes of Hispanics are changing."

Originally Posted by justjeffUS

I am find and great for stopping the flow of illegal immigration, taken for the fact that 90% are Mexican. Some of you are sounding like racist. Let's not confuse the purpose here, race jokes or smirks are compltetley uncalled for.

It is time for me and Jeff to have a polite conversation here on the open boards.

I have received several e-mails from Jeff, as have our moderators, complaining about racism on our boards.

Each time we ask for examples of this racism or links to posts that contain racism, we do not receive that information from Jeff.

Now Jeff, after reading your open charge of racism here on our boards, would you have done it again. You have made a complaint and nobody here even knows what material your are talking about.

Please cite for all of us the language that you claim to be responding to here with the charge of racism.

We do not allow RACE BAITING AT ALIPAC. It is against our rules.

I am posting this here in the open so you can answer clearly.

We do not tolerate racism on our boards and we do not tolerate RACE BAITING.

Please explain your comments here Jeff. Where do you see any "race jokes?"

W

Originally Posted by justjeffUS

I am not sure what you were implying by your post. It does carry overtones that do invade on racist patterns.

If ALIPAC believes in the legal immigration of honest people, then their country of origin has absolutely no bearing.

My wife is from a Central America country and does not accept her country's views on politics.

Who is this directed at Jeff? What does someones post here on the boards have to do with what "ALIPAC believes"? Who made a statement here about country of origin and legal immigration?

Also Jeff, where are you originally from. Your language patterns in your posts here are a bit different. Is English your first language?

William

I have just read the posts in this tread for third time and do not see anything that is racist. Jeffy you are fishing with bait.

Originally Posted by justjeffUS

I am not sure what you were implying by your post. It does carry overtones that do invade on racist patterns.

If ALIPAC believes in the legal immigration of honest people, then their country of origin has absolutely no bearing.

My wife is from a Central America country and does not accept her country's views on politics.

Is your wife a legal immigrant or an ILLEGAL ALIEN, Jeff?