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Thread: Jerry Brown’s Senate Bill 54, protecting illegal entrants, violates federal law!

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    Jerry Brown’s Senate Bill 54, protecting illegal entrants, violates federal law!

    The argument is repeatedly made that local police are under no obligation to enforce Federal Law. But the argument under review is not about “local police” being under an obligation “…to enforce Federal Law.” That argument is an intentional distraction injected into the conversation to avoid what is being argued. What is being argued is political hacks, such as the Governors and Mayors of sanctuary cities being in violation of the law when they order their local law enforcement officers to not cooperate with Federal ICE Agents.

    There is an enormous distinction between local political leaders ordering local law enforcement officers to not cooperate with ICE Agents, and local police refusing to cooperate. In this discussion we are talking about the former and not the latter. We are talking about local elected leaders, such as the communist, socialist, progressive Jerry Brown and his Senate Bill 54 which limits local law enforcement officers in their communications with Federal Ice Agents.

    And what has the court stated about local elected leaders restricting their law enforcement officers from cooperating with our federal government?

    For the answer to this question let us read Judge Harry D. Leinenweber’s recent WRITTEN OPINION dealing with 8 U.S.Code § 1373 - Communication between government agencies and the Immigration and Naturalization Service

    _“The constitutionality of Section 1373 has been challenged before. The Second Circuit in City of New York v. United States, 179F.3d 29 (2d Cir. 1999), addressed a facial challenge to Section 1373 in similar circumstances. By executive order, New York City prohibited its employees from voluntarily providing federal immigration authorities with information concerning the immigration status of any alien. Id. at 31-32. The city sued the United States, challenging the constitutionality of Section 1373 under theTenth Amendment._

    Id. at 32.
    _The Second Circuit found that Section 1373 did not compel sate or local governments to enact or administer any federal regulatory program or conscript local employees into its service, and therefore did not run afoul of the rules gleaned from the Supreme Court’s Printz and New York decisions. City of New York, 179 F.3d at 35. Rather, the court held that Section 1373 prohibits local governmental entities and officials only from directly restricting the voluntary exchange of immigration information with the INS. Ibid. The Court found that the Tenth Amendment, normally a shield from federal power, could not be turned into “a sword allowing states and localities to engage in passive resistance that frustrates federal programs.”


    Harboring illegal entrants is a criminal offense, which is exactly what elected political hacks in sanctuary cities/states are doing when they instruct local law enforcement officers to not cooperate with ICE Agents.

    And what is the definition of harboring? CLICK HERE for the Courts’ own words:

    ”In a later decision, the Second Circuit announced the following test for determining what constitutes shielding, concealing, and harboring under 8 U.S.C. § 1324: “harboring, within the meaning of § 1324, encompasses conduct tending substantially to facilitate an alien's remaining in the United States illegally and to prevent government authorities from detecting his unlawful presence.” United States v. Kim, 193F.3d 567, 574 (2d Cir.1999) (emphasis added); see also United States v. Cantu, 557 F.2d 1173, 1180 (5th Cir.1977)(stating that proper test is whether charged conduct tended “substantially to facilitate an alien's remaining in the United States illegally”) (quotingLopez, 521 F.2d at 441).”

    So, as it turns out, when sanctuary city politicians direct their law enforcement officers to not cooperate with federal ICE Agents, they have crossed the line and are engaging in the act of harboring.

    The bottom line is, our open border crowd is intentionally eengaging in a distraction when talking about local police not being required to enforce federal law. The subject underdiscussion is about local elected politicians ordering local law enforcement officers to not cooperate with Federal Ice Agents ___ an act which falls within the definition of harboring as stated by the Court!

    So, when will Jeff Sessions grow a spine, send federal Marshalls into sanctuary cities and arrest, and then prosecute, local elected leaders who engage in the Act of Harboring?


    Without a Fifth Column Media, Yellow Journalism and a corrupted FBI, Loretta Lynch, Hillary Clinton and Barack Hussein Obama, would be making license tags in a federal penitentiary

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    And we need to shut down Detention Centers and STOP HARBORING illegal aliens crossing our border!

    Immediately hand all minor's over into the care and custody of THEIR Consulate or Embassy for deportation!

    Stop our own government from harboring, aiding and abetting human trafficking by taking these people in.

    The more we take in...the more are human trafficked by MEXICO and their coyotes!

    They need to be deported within 24 hours of apprehension.

    They need to be turned away at our borders.

    Stop catch and release of these criminal trespassers into our communities!

    Deem all Driver's licenses issued to illegal aliens NULL & VOID

    Fire all government employees approving IRS tax refunds, welfare and food stamps to illegal aliens as well as providing healthcare and school!




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    The cost of illegal entrants in California

    With California being deeply in debt, and its pension fund a ticking time bomb, one needs to ask Jerry Brown how much of California's tax revenue goes to pay for the economic needs of illegal entrants?

    Let us take a look at the destructive social and economic consequences in just one county in California inflicted upon its citizens in 1995 when this massive invasion of our borders began to accelerate.
    and scroll to page 93 for testimony given by JOAN ZINSER before the COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY, U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, DECEMBER 13, 1995

    Good morning Chairman Smith and other honorable members of the Subcommittee on Immigration and Claims. I am Joan Zinser, Deputy Director of the San Diego County Department of Social Services. I direct the department's Income Maintenance Bureau, which has responsibility for AFDC, Food Stamps and Medicaid eligibility determinations. I am here today to tell you about the effects of illegal immigration on the County's assistance programs, and to present information regarding impacts on other county-funded services.

    Impacts on San Diego County

    In 1993, illegal aliens in San Diego County were estimated to be 7.9% of the population, or a total of almost 220,000 illegal aliens in a county with a population of slightly over 2 1/2 million. A 1993 Calffornia State Senate report estimated that the State, local governments - primarily the County - and schools incurred $304 million in costs to provide services to illegal aliens. These costs were offset by only $60 million in taxes generated by illegal aliens - leaving a net impact of $244 million.

    Welfare Costs.

    When a child is a US citizen, AFDC can be granted for the child but not the parent, if the parent is an undocumented immigrant. In 1992 there were 6,414 children born to undocumented immigrant parents in San Diego County hospitals. Each year, the illegal alien parents of nearly 2000 "citizen children" apply for and receive AFDC in San Diego County. The cumulative total of these "citizen child" cases continues to rise each year.

    Public assistance is intended to support the citizen child, but is paid to the illegal alien parent and is, no doubt, used by the parent to support the entire family. Costs for providing AFDC to "citizen children" cases in San Diego totaled $37 million in 1993 for approximately 5430 AFDC cases.

    Additional costs are incurred in Child Welfare Services. Combining costs for Out-of-Home and Family Maintenance services to families of illegal aliens results in an additional cost of $1.7 million.

    Medicaid and Other Health-Related- Costs.

    Medicaid services are an increasingly large portion of the costs involved in illegal immigration. In 1992, Medicaid paid for 6,414 births illegal alien mothers. Although studies have shown that illegal aliens use fewer Medicaid services than do the age-equivalent members of the general population, significant costs remain. Delivery costs are greater for babies with mothers lacking adequate prenatal care and many medical conditions are treated more cost-effectively in their early stages. Infectious diseases are also a major concern of the County. San Diego County has historically carried large costs because of illegal aliens with these problems. Costs associated with providing emergency and pregnancy related needs to illegal aliens are paid for under "restricted Medi-Cal benefits." During the 1992 calendar year, an estimated $37 million was paid for "restricted Medi-Cal benefits." Other costs, including uncompensated care in hospitals, community clinics, and other health services elevated the 1993 total costs to over $50 million.

    Criminal justice.
    A recent 90-day pilot project involved having INS Agents present in the county jails to interview those suspected of being an undocumented immigrant. Approximately 20% of the persons booked into the jails during that pilot were identified as being illegal aliens. With annual bookings of approximatel 105,000 persons a year, it is estimated that up to 21,000 were illegal aliens.

    According to the San Diego County District Attorney, 8,521 felony crimes were committed by illegal aliens between 1987 and 1992. Illegal aliens commit an estimated 22% of felony crimes committed in the county. The number of misdemeanors committed during the same period in San Diego County by illegal aliens is estimated to be 17,000. In 1993, approximately 15. 1 % of the costs -accrued in dealing with crimes were spent on illegal aliens. Costs for illegal aliens to the legal system totaled $151 million in the County of San Diego for 1993.


    Recently, a video of students crossing the border and getting on a school bus in San Diego County in order to receive free education was shown nationwide. Locally, we have worked to make sure that this situation does not recur, but education of the children of illegal aliens is also a significant CDSt. It is estimated that $60 million was spent in San Diego County in 1993 for education of illegal aliens.

    And, more recently see:

    Illegal aliens cost California billions


    ”Illegal immigration costs the taxpayers of California — which has the highest number of illegal aliens nationwide — $10.5 billion a year for education, health care and incarceration, according to a study released yesterday.”


    American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance a maternity ward for the poverty stricken populations of other countries who invade America’s borders to give birth.

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    Governor Jerry Brown puts illegal aliens above state workers


    You just can’t make up the crap which happens in California!

    In dealing with a deficit, it is absolutely stunning that JerryBrown is in court trying to renege on pension benefits promised to currentstate workers, while he has had almost $50 million added to California’s statebudget to assist legal and illegal entrants.


    There was a time not too long ago in New Yorkwhen the able-bodied were ashamed to accept home relief, a program created byFranklin D. Roosevelt in 1931 when he was Governor. Now, New York City and manyother major cities are infested with countless government cheese factions from **** hole countries, who not only demand welfare, but use it to buy beer, wine,drugs, sex, and Lotto tickets.

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    Border Patrol cracks down on those engaging in harboring illegal entrants .


    Border Patrol arrests man who gave aid to immigrants crossing the desert


    "An Arizona man was reportedly arrested last week on a federal harboring charge after Border Patrol agents surveilled a building near the Mexico border where food, water and clean clothes were provided to immigrants."

    And what exactly is the criminal offense called “harboring”? see

    8 U.S. Code § 1324 - Bringing in and harboring certain aliens

    (A)Any person who—

    (iii)knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals, harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation;

    (II)aids or abets the commission of any of the preceding acts,

    shall be punished as provided in subparagraph .

    Is it not time to also charge and arrest communist/socialist elected leaders of sanctuary cities and states like California’s Governor Jerry Brown and New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio?


    Without a Fifth Column Media, Yellow Journalism and a corrupted FBI, Loretta Lynch, Hillary Clinton and Barack Hussein Obama, would be making license tags in a federal penitentiary

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