Thread: Letter from Sen. Obama

"I feel sad having to expose Barack Obama," says Martin, "but the man is a complete fraud. The truth is going to surprise, and disappoint, and outrage many people who were drawn to him. He has lied to the American people, and he has sought to misrepresent his own heritage.

As a friend of mine who worked for a major corporation and spent a lot of time lobbying in Washington during the '90s told me, "Nothing in Washington is as it seems...it's all smoke and mirrors."

This really brings me down. I have not been this disappointed since I learned that Walt Disney used to look through the key hole of Minnie Mouse's dressing room.
Actually I caught his speech at the Democratic Ntl convention and thought then they were grooming this guy for bigger things. His speech reeked of shameless self promotion while he pretended to be a centrist.
He is destined to be a contender (sorry Marlin).

"logistically difficult" speaking about deportation.

How so? We have trucks, cars, trains, planes...to handle the logistics. It is not logistically difficult. It's just a big job because they have waited so long and there are so many to move....logisitically. It might several years; it might be an on-going project like Hunting for Osama. So what if it takes 3 years; 4 years; 5 years; 10 years.

There is no need to physically deport them. Just take everything away that brings and keeps them here. Without the ability to get a job, welfare, non-emergency medical care, drivers license (several states, I believe), in-state tuition (7 states), home loans, vehicle loans, bank accounts, etc. Additionally, require that all government business be conducted in English (federal, state, and local). This isn't brain science, remove the things that enable them to function in our society and they'll either go home or become more visable for capture and deportation (most will go home on their own).

Mr. Obama is the darling of the media. He was touted as potential Presidential material the first time I ever heard of him on a national news program.

That alone is enough to make me very cautious and leary of the man. Anyone the news media is championing probably isn't someone that has the best interests of the US at heart.

We know nothing about this man except what he tells us and what the media tells us. He certainly is letting us down on the immigration issue. His blather is the same as everyone elses. We know he is the son of an immigrant. We have a nation full of those.

They all say the same thing. 'Yes, it's a problem. Yes it costs us money. Yest it has detrimental effects on this country. But, we aren't going to send them home.'

I wasn't that impressed with him except his ability to make speeches - he is very good at that - and it actually isn't something they all can do. It doesn't however, have anything to do with being a good President of this country.

Sorry for my cynicism - I don't trust the media - I don't trust politicians. WE can't take them at face value - we need to pay very close attention.

Sorry for my cynicism - I don't trust the media - I don't trust politicians. WE can't take them at face value - we need to pay very close attention.

And wisely so.

Getting back to the article written with regards to the fictious character known as Obama, does the Andy Martin (author) have any legitimate proof to present to the world? It just seems odd to me that he could have come this far politically without someone digging up the bodies long before now.

VERY O/T For those who believe in God and the Bible:

If what this Martin person is saying is true, then according to the bible, that would make Obama the anti-christ. I remember having the biggest debate when all the members in my church were told to vote for Bush (voting republican has never been encouraged in the Black church). I stated I couldn't/wouldn't because I thought he was the antichrist. During that meeting, we also had another discussion in which my Pastor and one other member said that Bush was not the antichrist but they believed that Obama was. Accordinging to the prophesy it would make sense.

Preachingtothechoir wrote:

If what this Martin person is saying, then according to the bible, that would make Obama the anti-christ. I remember having the biggest debate when all the members in my church were told to vote for Bush (voting republican has never been encouraged in the Black church). I stated I couldn't/wouldn't because I thought he was the antichrist. During that meeting, we also had another discussion in which my Pastor and one other member said that Bush was not the antichrist but they believed that Obama was. Accordinging to the prophesy it would make sense.

Gulp! Yes, it would. I too, would very interested to know what evidence Andy Martin has to back up these statements.

Originally Posted by greyparrot

Preachingtothechoir wrote:

If what this Martin person is saying, then according to the bible, that would make Obama the anti-christ. I remember having the biggest debate when all the members in my church were told to vote for Bush (voting republican has never been encouraged in the Black church). I stated I couldn't/wouldn't because I thought he was the antichrist. During that meeting, we also had another discussion in which my Pastor and one other member said that Bush was not the antichrist but they believed that Obama was. Accordinging to the prophesy it would make sense.

Gulp! Yes, it would. I too, would very interested to know what evidence Andy Martin has to back up these statements.

Grey Parrott: Thanks for not thinking I was some kind of nut case. I have thought about the possibility for more than 6 years now, after reading that article my heart stopped.

Originally Posted by Preachingtothechoir

Sorry for my cynicism - I don't trust the media - I don't trust politicians. WE can't take them at face value - we need to pay very close attention.

And wisely so.

Getting back to the article written with regards to the fictious character known as Obama, does the Andy Martin (author) have any legitimate proof to present to the world? It just seems odd to me that he could have come this far politically without someone digging up the bodies long before now.

VERY O/T For those who believe in God and the Bible:

If what this Martin person is saying, then according to the bible, that would make Obama the anti-christ. I remember having the biggest debate when all the members in my church were told to vote for Bush (voting republican has never been encouraged in the Black church). I stated I couldn't/wouldn't because I thought he was the antichrist. During that meeting, we also had another discussion in which my Pastor and one other member said that Bush was not the antichrist but they believed that Obama was. Accordinging to the prophesy it would make sense.

There is no "the anti-Christ" in the Bible, and I defy you to demonstrate otherwise. John speaks of a general spirit of anti-Christ. Later, in the Revelation, he identifies a number of persons and beings who are the enemies of God's faithful and of Israel (the people, not necessarily the nation). There are several beasts, a dragon, a harlot, demons that appear froglike, etc., but no person or being called or characterized as "the anti-Christ." In fact, this personage is a creation of popular culture and of the Roman Catholic Church, not a prophecied personage in the actual text of the Bible. Would-be theologians frequently freely mix and match the prophesied traits of various of the diverse enemies of the faith into an amalgam which they believe represents their bogeyman.

As far as how far a politician can come without someone digging up the dirt on him, I would suggest to you that no one gets far in politics UNLESS there is dirt on him that can be used for leverage by the guys who call the shots. How far did Bill Clinton get before the fact that his own brother was a major cocaine trafficker was revealed?

Originally Posted by greyparrot

Preachingtothechoir wrote:

If what this Martin person is saying, then according to the bible, that would make Obama the anti-christ. I remember having the biggest debate when all the members in my church were told to vote for Bush (voting republican has never been encouraged in the Black church). I stated I couldn't/wouldn't because I thought he was the antichrist. During that meeting, we also had another discussion in which my Pastor and one other member said that Bush was not the antichrist but they believed that Obama was. Accordinging to the prophesy it would make sense.

Gulp! Yes, it would. I too, would very interested to know what evidence Andy Martin has to back up these statements.

Well, what you should be asking is why he has not been sued for libel if these quite public accusations are NOT true.

Bush may not be the anti-Christ, but he damn sure is One Devil In Disguise with SkunkFace Beside Him to Guide Him.