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    Look out for new pro-H-1B propaganda in mainstream media

    This is the latest JOB DESTRUCTION NEWSLETTER from Rob Sanchez.

    <<<<< JOB DESTRUCTION NEWSLETTER No. 1743 -- 8/21/2007 >>>>>

    A new stinker of an article is making its way across the mainstream media
    and throughout the internet. It's a transparent piece of propaganda written
    Jim Romeo, a former engineer turned MBA turned business writer. Romeo is a
    corporate toadie and makes no bones about the type of stuff he writes --
    according to his online portfolio he is most qualified to write about
    management and business related subjects. He never mentioned labor related
    subjects which is a good thing since his latest writing, as well as
    previous ones, demonstrates a total lack of interest in anything but the
    CEO and HR point of view.

    You can find out more about Jim Romeo at the following websites:

    Romeo's article uses a classic propaganda technique identified by The
    Institute for Propaganda Analysis (IPA) as "selective omission", or
    stacking the deck. The way he does it is to totally avoid quoting anyone
    who disagrees with his corporatist point of view that there is a shortage
    of programmers and a shortage of H-1B visas. The title of the article
    initiates the charade with the notion that it has something to do with open
    source developers -- nothing could be further from the truth unless you
    count a few sob stories from H-1B visa holders. Most of the quotes are from
    CEOs and business owners.

    After the title things go downhill very quickly. Notice that Romeo never
    actually quotes an alternative point of view -- he gives a false impression
    of objectivity by mentioning detractors as "critics" or marginalizing
    everyone else as a few people with "one comment".

    Romeo tried to pull a fast one here:

    "The H-1B visas play right into the hands of large corporations,"
    says Russ Nelson, vice president of an open source firm and member
    of the Open Source Software Institute. "First, because they make it
    more expensive to hire the worker you want because of the H-1B
    overhead. Second, they tie the worker to the corporation that
    created the job, so the worker is not free to change jobs.

    Russ Nelson is an H-1B critic alright, but only because he doesn't want any
    limits to the quantities of workers he can import! This is another classic
    technique called bait and switch -- pay close attention to Nelson's true
    agenda of open borders globalism and unlimited immigration:

    Since most open source firms are small to medium companies, the H-1B
    program generally hurts them. I don't understand what problem is
    being solved by restricting immigration. If somebody wants to come
    to our country and work hard, I see no reason to stop them."

    The end of the article is the worst part and perhaps the most misleading:

    His view of the whole H1-B process as it is? "I don't think it
    benefits anybody."

    Guess who said that? According to Romeo it was from an anonymous Canadian
    that complained about all the hoops he had to go through to get a visa.
    Boo! Hoo! Actually the entire quote is probably fiction because foreigners
    don't go through hoops to get H-1B visas -- their employers do. Employers,
    if you remember, are required to do all the paperwork and pay all the fees,
    so Romeo's reporting seems to be weak on the facts.

    How much you want to bet the quote was actually from an Indian? Canadians
    would be more likely to use TN visas, that is assuming they were really one
    of those "best and brightest" we hear so much about.

    I provide three links to the article but by the time you read this
    newsletter there will be many more -- and expect many of them to have
    different titles. PCworld and Linuxword allow comments. We shouldn't be
    surprised that the Washington Post paid Romeo for the article since Melinda
    Gates, the wife of Bill Gates, III is on the Board of Directors of the
    Washington Post Corporation.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +,13623 ... ticle.html
    IT Staff Shortage Predicted ... -h1-b.html
    Open source developers face H1-B visa puzzle ... 681_2.html
    Open-source developers face H1-B visa puzzle

    IT Staff Shortage Predicted
    Companies say they depend on foreign workers to fill IT positions, but the
    demand for H1-B visas is far greater than the quota imposed by Congress.
    Jim Romeo, LinuxWorld
    Tuesday, August 21, 2007 08:00 AM PDT
    According to a July 2007 survey by Gartner Group of 225 U.S.-based
    organizations, 66 percent projected some level of increase in IT staff
    looking 12 months forward. This is up from 61 percent in 2006. The H1-B
    visa program, which allows U.S. firms to petition for workers from abroad,
    has been one avenue of meeting this demand. But the number of positions
    needing to be filled is seemingly way greater than the allowable quota
    imposed by Congress.

    Speak to the open source community about the topic and you are likely to
    hear a mixed bag of comments about the H1-B program.

    One comment is that the H-1B program is too prescribed. The quotas seem
    whimsical and aren't tied to actual demand for that year. Plus, they give
    too much weight to objective data without looking at who that person is and
    what they can offer. Many very capable open source developers don't have a
    college degree and the program does not easily accommodate them. In
    addition, the process is costly for an employer to petition for the visa,
    and also for the candidate to hire attorneys and consultants to insure that
    their application is proper.

    H-1B visa petitions by U.S. firms began six months before the start of the
    Government's 2007 fiscal year in October of 2006. This date fell on a
    Sunday. By noon on the following Tuesday, the U.S. Citizenship and
    Immigration Services had received more than 130,000 H1-B petitions for
    workers. That is more than two petitions for every available visa. Yes, you
    heard that right -- in one day the quota was exceeded.

    In the U.S. Government's 2003 fiscal year, 195,000 H1-B visas were allowed,
    but the current number, 65,000, is closer to that imposed just before the
    dot-com boom at the turn of the new millennium.

    One open source developer who commented on the program is now working in
    the United States on an H1-B visa. He wished to remain anonymous as he is
    gainfully employed as an open source developer and is working on his green
    card application.

    "There's a great concern over undocumented immigrants and we tend to get
    bundled together with that issue," he says.

    His application was an inch and a half thick. He hired a specialist to
    insure that all the details were included in the application. He considers
    himself lucky in being accepted and being able to work for a notable firm
    in the open source community.

    But others are highly critical of the process as it is an obstacle to many
    open source firms who are often small and midsize businesses.

    "The H-1B visas play right into the hands of large corporations," says Russ
    Nelson, vice president of an open source firm and member of the Open Source
    Software Institute. "First, because they make it more expensive to hire the
    worker you want because of the H-1B overhead. Second, they tie the worker
    to the corporation that created the job, so the worker is not free to
    change jobs. Since most open source firms are small to medium companies,
    the H-1B program generally hurts them. I don't understand what problem is
    being solved by restricting immigration. If somebody wants to come to our
    country and work hard, I see no reason to stop them."

    Mike Tiemann was one of the founding partners of Cygnus Support, later
    Cygnus Solutions, an open source firm that made the Software 500 list in
    1996. The firm received numerous awards and accolades, and was acquired by
    Red Hat in 1999.

    "The fourth or fifth employee at Cygnus Solutions was an H1-B visa case,"
    Tiemann says. "He was a talented programmer from the U.K. who wanted to
    leave the U.K. and live in Silicon Valley. The trouble was, even though he
    had twice developed software programs that generated millions of GBP of
    revenue,he never went to college, and so it was quite a challenge to go
    through the process. Nevertheless, with several professors at Stanford
    University testifying that his work was the equal of a PhD, we hired him.
    He was very productive for us, and delighted living in the U.S."

    John Weatherby, Executive Director of the Open Source Software Institute
    (OSSI) is less critical of the program and hasn't seen many problems with

    "I'm sure that the companies who rely on either outsourcing or importing
    large numbers of foreign developers have very legitimate reasons and sound
    arguments as to why they would like to see an increase in the number of
    H1-B visas, but we have not run into that problem, I believe, for a couple
    of basic reasons," Weatherby says.

    "We work with lots of software development companies who are either
    exclusively open source shops, or employ open source as part of their
    solutions and service offering. We're also engaged in project management
    for selected open source projects on both a national and global scale. In
    neither case have we seen a problem with the H1-B visa situation. "

    "We also do work with the U.S. Department of Defense, and again the H1-B
    visa situation has not been an issue since most DoD work does not allow
    overseas or foreign-national development," he adds. "So they depend on the
    U.S.'s homegrown talent."

    Mark D. Koestler, a partner in the New York City based business immigration
    law practice of Kramer, Levin, Naftalis & Frankel, explains that the H-1B
    category is the visa status devoted to professional or "specialty
    occupation" positions, such as accountants, lawyers, graphic designers,
    bankers, advertising executives and others. Engineering, math and computer
    science compose some of the highest demand categories. The H-1B is an
    employer-sponsored status, meaning you cannot apply if you do not have a
    prospective employer who is willing to file a petition.

    According to Koestler, there are the principal requirements that must be
    satisfied to qualify for the H-1B category. One is that the proposed
    position must require at least a U.S. bachelor's degree, or the equivalent,
    in a specific area. In addition, the individual must have that degree, or
    the equivalent; and the individual's compensation must be the "required
    wage" -- the higher of the prevailing wage for the position in the area of
    intended employment or the actual wage paid to others holding the position
    with the employer. Generally, H-1B status is valid for up to six years with
    a few exceptions for longer service.

    Critics contend that the program enables foreign workers in the U.S. to
    take jobs from American workers. Not surprisingly, executives who use the
    program disagree. "This is simply not the case," says Bob Meltzer, CEO of
    VISANOW, a Chicago, Illinois based firm who streamlines visa applications
    for U.S. employers and foreign workers. "The fact that more than twice as
    many applications were filed then visas allotted on the first day of H-1B
    filing means that companies cannot fill needed positions."

    Meltzer contends that for a technology firm that is seeking to fill its
    ranks of software developers, programmers and other information technology
    positions, the H1-B visa program is one that is competitive, yet a rich
    source for filling much needed technology positions.

    Elizabeth Charnock is CEO Cataphora, a firm specializing in sophisticated
    software for investigative analytics used by corporate legal staffs and law
    firms in document-intense litigation work involving white-collar crime,
    securities, and antitrust matters.

    "It's difficult to find people" Charnock says. Her firm has had trouble
    finding highly qualified IT workers willing to work for her firm. However,
    there are many foreign workers hungry for IT jobs. Charnock says that when
    her firm posts jobs on Craig's List, they receive many inquiries from
    workers in India.

    Charnock points out that many job petitions were from outsourcing firms,
    based in places like India. These firms simply recruit and place the
    workers and profit from the placement.

    She cites figures that Infosys, an outsourcing firm that places workers
    from India into U.S.-based firms, submitted 5000 petitions for the visas,
    out of a total of 65,000 being granted. She compares this to Cisco Systems'
    800 petitions, which was ranked 13th in the number of petitions filed.
    Staffing firms that specialize in placing foreign workers into U.S.
    technology firms are dominating the efforts to attain workers on the H1-B

    San Diego-based staffing firm TalentFuse is one such firm embracing the
    H-1B visa program. "Our customer's main criteria are qualified IT
    professionals that can get the job done so country of origin does not
    matter from a business standpoint," says Brian Margarita, President of
    TalentFuse. TalentFuse was recently acquired by SQL Star -- a global
    staffing firm based in Delhi, India.

    "From our standpoint - -TalentFuse is its own H1-B company -- we don't have
    as many visa issues because it's an inter-company transfer when our parent
    company SQL Star bring students to the U.S. who have gone to school for IT
    certification in its facilities located in India, Singapore and Australia.
    These qualified IT personal become SQL Star employees. Many are then
    transferred to the U.S. to complete projects in the TalentFuse development

    The demand for workers is significant and the supply does not seem to be
    getting much better. Technology firms are working on their own solutions to
    find talent.

    "Next year it can get worse. It's so much disruption," says Charnock. She
    cites the recent announcement by Microsoft, who just disclosed plans to
    open up a software development center near Vancouver, British Columbia in
    Canada -- not far from their Redmond, Wash., headquarters. This comes on
    the heels of a failure by Congress to raise the cap.

    "Unfortunately Congress has been unable to successfully shepherd any of the
    proposed H-1B program improvements through the legislative process yet"
    says says Leigh Ganchan, an attorney with the law firm of Epstein Becker
    and Green's Labor and Employment and Health Care and Life Sciences
    Practices in the firm's Houston office. "One Senate proposal would have
    increased the annual numerical limitation from 65,000 to a more realistic
    115,000 per fiscal year."

    Ganchan feels that anticipating future periods of economic growth is
    important and that any such legislative proposal needs a market-based cap
    escalator to take effect in the fiscal year following years in which U.S.
    employers experience an increased need for H-1B professionals. Such action
    by federal legislators may need a voice from employers.

    "It is vital that employers be vocal with Congress about the economic need
    for a more realistic H-1B program," says Elizabeth Stern, a business
    immigration attorney and partner in the Washington, D.C., office of Baker
    and McKenzie.

    Charnock, like Stern, feels that a program with a distinct pool of foreign
    workers who have a masters or doctorate degree from a foreign institution
    would be a welcomed improvement in the program. At present, there is a
    separate pool for advanced degree holders, but the degree must be from a
    U.S. institution of higher learning.

    "Development of visa pools for foreign-based master's holders and
    high-salaried foreign hires are among the options that need to be
    explored," Stern says.

    Whether a prospective hire has a degree or not, they are just hard to find.
    The anonymous open source developer we spoke about earlier explained that
    his job was posted for two years before he filled it on an H1-B visa after
    jumping through all of the hoops in the application process. "It really put
    me off, working here," he explains. "I had considered working in Canada."

    His view of the whole H1-B process as it is?

    "I don't think it benefits anybody."

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    I think that abuses like this is why we need to just completly end the H-1B program.... it will cut corruption off real quick when there is no jobs to lie about.

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    Hi Ceelyn, thanks for posting it.

    Millere, of this website, succinctly pointed out insidious techniques used in Detroit to destroy our jobs and livelyhoods (hence destroy our middle class).

    Quote Originally Posted by millere
    1. The "600 jobs" will not be advertised to the general public but will go to foreign H1-B's in the area who will have a first crack at them.

    2. Americans who manage to find the openings will often find that Indian hiring managers are even enthusiastic to hear from them because unemployed American IT workers have a lot of knowledge to "transfer" still, but after the initial phase of excitement, the American interviewees will be "frozen out".

    3. Unemployed H1-B's living in the area who are in the country against immigration laws will hear of the job openings and will offer to hire into them at $6 - $8 an hour (American situation).

    4. Some Americans will be hired, but will find themselves constantly training new H1-B's until they are exhausted of their knowledge and gotten rid of.

    5. A lot of University Students who are Indian will be allowed to work these jobs on a part-time basis until full time jobs show up.

    We are getting into the "practical hypnosis" aspect of salesmanship that was perfected during the era and went on to shape the Indian Business Process Offshoring (BPO). I saw many examples of this during the expansion of the bubble. The most effective use of "practical hypnosis" is the "successful image guru". Such a BPO salesman wears impeccably tailored suits, has the most expensive laptop in existence, is constantly on the cell-phone and is always in a hurry because of travel plans. This type of con is used on the average "machine shop" owner or "car parts" maker whose own personal life is a lot drabber than the breezy, sophisticated Indian who just visited his office. The potential target then feels that "making a connection" with the BPO salesman (or saleswoman) will make his own life more exciting. What the victim doesn't realize is that the "glamorous" lifestyle of the BPO salesman has been paid for by money that was skimmed out of the budget that was supposed to go for services rendered! The money spent on this lifestyle is then paid for by a corresponding lowering of quality for the product obtained, or worse, represents a kind of "ponzie scheme" in which management dips into the money to pay for "lifestyle" expenses long before equipment and budget costs have been met.

    We should keep looking for examples of Indian "mind control" groups that are frequented by Indian BPO salesmen both in India and in the US. In the US, cult-like groups including Amway Motivational Groups, actively teach 'higher level' members how to deceive the public with false claims of sales or "success stories" that aren't true. There must be someone who has defected from one of these groups and can tell the same. If Indians have spent a lot of money on "management gurus" there should be some stories on the Internet about which American gurus have set up shop on Indian or vice-versa. A warning: even investigating "Mind control" as a third person dispassionate observer can be very upsetting.
    [quote="H. Michael Sweeney"][b]Twenty-Five Ways to Suppress Truth:
    The Rules of Disinformation
    (Includes The 8 Traits of A Disinformationalist)
    by H. Michael Sweeney

    “Where the crime involves a conspiracy, or a conspiracy to cover up the crime, there will invariably be a disinformation campaign launched against those seeking to uncover and expose the truth and/or the conspiracy. There are specific tactics which disinformation artists tend to apply, as revealed here. Also included with this material are seven common traits of the disinformation artist which may also prove useful in identifying players and motives. The more a particular party fits the traits and is guilty of following the rules, the more likely they are a professional disinformation artist with a vested motive. People can be bought, threatened, or blackmailed into providing disinformation, so even "good guys" can be suspect in many cases.â€

    What part of "We don't owe our jobs to India" are you unable to understand, Senator?

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    Future News broadcast

    H-1B "hero" gets elected President of the United States

    Unbelievable? Isn't Hillary getting elected supposed to be fantastic and unbelievable?

    One small point..... If Hillary gets elected, the H-1B hero in this video will have to wait a long long time - Hillary will ascend to become dictator.

    One more small point, does not favor the H-1B hero - The USA will not exist if either the North American Union or AZT Land are in place.

    What part of "We don't owe our jobs to India" are you unable to understand, Senator?

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