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    Marco Rubio Amnesty Question?

    ALIPAC Activists,

    I just got an email about Marco Rubio supporting Amnesty because I included his name in the Republican's leaning towards Amnesty list in an email alert.

    We know for a fact that as speaker of the Florida house Rubio blocked all of our immigration enforcement bills.

    We also know that he flip flopped on his support for the Arizona bill SB 1070.

    Someone recently sent info our way that Rubio was in the bag with Jeb Bush on supporting Comprehensive IMmigration Reform Amnesty (CIRA).

    Of course, despite numerous tries we cant get an ALIPAC survey out of Rubio's campaign.

    We need to decide this matter once and for all here.

    Please help did in on the research on the question.

    Is candidate Marco Rubio supporting a path to citizenship or CIRA for illegals or not???

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    Immigration Control In Florida

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    Here is my 2 cents worth on this issue.

    I got a card in the mail Thursday slamming Rubio on votes in state legislature favoring Illegal Immigrants. It was sent by "Friends of Freedom and Prosperity" New Port Richie FL.

    I looked them up online and followed the money and one of their contributers is "Floridians for Principled Government" who is run by so called Repubs who really are Democrats and donate to Dems or Rino Repubs.

    Through further research I discovered they are backing Charlie Crist who says openly he will vote for Amnesty if elected.

    At a recent gathering in Naples Rubio was speaking and there were several protesting his Anti Illegal Immigrant stance and his NO on Amnesty .

    So I don't really know if he is lying and would be another Martinez once in office. All I know is Crist and Meeks both say they would vote for Amnesty and Rubio says NO he would not.

    I think you are being emailed by Crist or Meek supporters since they are both trailing Rubio by hugh numbers. Crist is really desperate and it shows.
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    I think Rubio like Christie will be a dissapointment on immigration.

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    My thoughts on the Senate are; if Repubs gain enough seats and take control we have a better shot of Amnesty NOT being brought up for a vote then if the Dems remain in power . So I will vote for the Repubs hoping they will gain control.

    I also consider other matters such as the Health care bill too plus all the other bills the Dems are trying to shove down our throats.
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    I have been looking and looking for what Marco Rubio's stand is on illegal immigration and any form of amnesty.

    I came up with the same confusion I come up with when trying to figure out what John McCain, Glenn Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh, Sarah Palin and other high profile people put out there. It is a bunch of double speak.

    Most of the media figures and politicians will not come right out and say EXACTLY what they believe, but instead they use their words to confuse people.
    Ron Paul in 2011 "[...]no amnesty should be granted. Maybe a 'green card' with an asterisk should be issued[...]a much better option than deportation."

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    Thank you for the opinions everyone, but we need this to be a RESEARCH effort.

    Please post clips and snippets of his positions and your source names and links.

    This discussion was created so we can analyze more than share opinions.

    Let's gather the info of what is known first please.

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    Crist must smell blood because he is digging in on Rubio's immigration statements.

    Rubio just released a Spanish language ad, does anyone have a transcript of that?

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    This is an article from last year

    Rubio's immigration stance faces scrutiny

    By Beth Reinhard, Miami Herald
    In Print: Sunday, November 8, 2009

    As an underdog U.S. Senate candidate courting the GOP's conservative wing, Marco Rubio takes a hard-line position against illegal immigration: no amnesty.

    But as the powerful speaker of the Florida House, presented with a slew of bills aimed at curbing illegal immigration, he didn't put a single proposal up for a vote.

    "A lot of us are mad at him because he did block those bills," said David Caulkett, a founder of Floridians for Immigration Enforcement. "Rubio claims to be anti-amnesty but the question is, 'Do we trust him?' "

    Rubio says he hasn't wavered in his opposition to granting citizenship to illegal immigrants but that the issue should be dealt with by the federal government, not the states. The Legislature was focused on tax and insurance reform on his watch, he said.

    "We picked one or two key issues," Rubio said. "States can't solve illegal immigration."

    Rubio's record on immigration is under scrutiny now that the issue is on his agenda and his bid against Gov. Charlie Crist for the Republican nomination is gaining ground.

    Immigration was nowhere to be found in the book 100 Innovative Ideas for Florida's Future that he compiled as House speaker; now it's among nine issues addressed on his campaign Web site.

    The son of Cuban exiles born in Miami says he opposed the proposal spearheaded in 2006 by former Sen. Mel Martinez — whose early retirement triggered Rubio's 2010 campaign — that would have allowed illegal immigrants to work toward citizenship. Crist supported the bill.

    On the campaign trail, Rubio sometimes refers to "illegal aliens," a legal term some immigrant advocates find offensive.

    "His tone has changed on the subject, and to me it's very obvious that it's for political reasons," said state Rep. Juan Zapata of Miami, a Crist supporter.

    After immigration reform collapsed in Congress, state legislatures around the country clamored to fill the void. In 2008, 1,305 bills were considered and 206 were enacted, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

    The half-dozen bills in the Florida House that year would have penalized farmers who hire illegal workers, required proof of citizenship to receive government benefits, encouraged police to turn in suspected illegal immigrants and allowed illegal immigrants serving time to be deported to their home countries.

    As speaker, Rubio wielded sweeping powers over whether bills fizzled or coasted to the floor for votes. The immigration-related bills were relegated to a public workshop, allowing lawmakers to hear from activists on both sides of the issue without voting. State Rep. David Rivera of Miami, a top Rubio lieutenant, gave an impassioned speech about the economic contributions of undocumented workers on Florida's economy as landscapers, maids, dishwashers and farm workers.

    "The bills didn't get at the real problem, which was employers hiring illegal immigrants," Rivera said Friday. "Rubio at least brought the issue to the forefront, which is more than any other speaker has done."

    Rubio said it's unfair to blame him solely for the bills' failure, noting that their counterparts in the Senate also languished. After he left office, the proposals continued to flounder.

    Rubio advocates a national guest worker program in which immigrants can't get a job without a tamper-proof card validating their legal status.

    "The Republican party is not the anti-immigration party," Rubio says. "It's the pro-legal immigration party."

    The sound bite reflects Rubio's carefully calculated approach: show respect for the rule of law while avoiding harsh rhetoric. When asked about illegal immigrants taking advantage of government services, Rubio pointed out that American citizens are also guilty of welfare abuse.

    "They're God's children, but they're here illegally," he recently told a Republican club in northwest Florida. "You can't round up 11 million people because we don't live in a police state. But you can't grant amnesty either because if you do, you will destroy any hope of having a legal immigration system that works. You will send a message that all you have to do is come into this country, stay here long enough and we will let you stay."

    Ana Navarro, a Rubio donor who has lobbied on immigration in Washington, said his emphasis on enforcement reflects the public's anxiety over border security.

    "Every Republican has moved to the right on immigration," she said. "At some point the political reality hits you in the face."

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    This is Rubio's Official website and where he stands on the issues.

    www.marcorubio.com/issues

    This is an interview of Rubio on Face The Nation.

    www.therightscoop.com/marco-rubio-on-fa ... on?amp&amp
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