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    Interesting stuff. Lots on his association with Jeb Bush.

    Rubio takes tougher stance on immigration ... tance.html

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    Top Florida Republicans soften stance on Ariz. law ... 03483.html

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    Rubio & Crist Against Repeal Of 14th Amendment
    CBS 4 / 11th Aug 2010
    It took seven different attempts over eight days to finally get an answer from Marco Rubio's campaign; but Rubio finally acknowledged that he, like Governor Charlie Crist, doesn't support a Repeal of the 14th Amendment.

    Rubio's stance puts him on the other side of the aisle from GOP leaders and some Tea Party leaders.

    VIDEOS: Marco Rubio in videos ... 27309.html
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    Yep, a wolf in sheep's clothing.

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    591 ... re=related

    here he states he is for a "clear path to legalization" there can be no mistake that he is for amnesty.

    Weasel words. With apologies to weasels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watson

    here he states he is for a "clear path to legalization" there can be no mistake that he is for amnesty.

    Weasel words. With apologies to weasels.
    Yes, we know about Crist being for Amnesty.

    But we are looking for information about Rubio in this research thread.

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    Doh. Sorry, I don't know what happened--bad day I guess. I'll try again.

    I found this by searching on "support a path to citizenship" and the name. It seems to yield far more hits than other search terms so far. Will continue later.

    By ANDY BARR | 8/12/10 12:43 PM EDT Updated: 8/13/10 6:31 AM EDT
    Florida GOP Senate candidate Marco Rubio on Thursday declined to take a firm stance on a newly proposed bill in Florida that would require immigrants to carry identification or face a 20-day jail sentence.

    The bill was unveiled Wednesday by Bill McCollum, the state’s Republican attorney general and gubernatorial candidate.

    In his announcement, McCollum specifically evoked Arizona’s controversial immigration law — which would have allowed law enforcement to check the citizenship of anyone they arrest and detain, before a federal judge moved to stop the implementation of that provision last month.

    “Arizona is going to want this law,â€
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    591 ... ture=email March 2009 October 2009 the problem with amnesty

    March 2010 ... 54366.html

    'They voted for somebody they'd never heard of in Barack Obama because he ran on the platform of a very devoted centrist."

    That's the answer from Marco Rubio when asked about his stunning rise to national prominence as a Republican challenger to a popular Republican officeholder in the key electoral state of Florida. Underlying this strange political season, says Mr. Rubio, is the president's rapid uncloaking in office as anything but the postpartisan that voters thought they had elected.

    "Within weeks," says Mr. Rubio, "he began trying to implement what appears to everyone else to be the left-of-center politics of the last 50 years, but in a much more aggressive way, using the excuse of a severe economic downturn as justification for growing and in essence redefining the role of government in America."

    The 38-year-old former Florida Speaker of the House is a bundle of energy. He rushes in late from dropping his car off at the shop and is due to pick up his kids from school soon. He talks fast and taps his toe even faster. He's challenging Florida Gov. Charlie Crist in the Republican primary to fill the seat of retiring Sen. Mel Martinez, and his ascent has caught a lot of people by surprise.

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    .Mr. Crist, a popular and successful governor, was considered the heavy favorite. He had been on John McCain's vice presidential short list. He had no trouble collecting Republican establishment endorsements for his Senate bid: the National Republican Senatorial Committee, Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell, Sens. Jon Kyl, John Cornyn and Lamar Alexander, to name a few.

    Mr. Rubio nods when I mention his former longshot status. "When I got into this race, I understood that all the traditional metrics of politics were against us. Name recognition, money, trappings of office, connections, endorsements, you name it.

    "Obviously, things have happened outside of our control since then," he smiles.

    With a now-infamous photo of Mr. Crist embracing President Obama during a visit in February 2009, Mr. Crist put himself on the wrong side of the tea party wave that was building. Mr. Obama had come to Florida to sell his stimulus plan, and Mr. Crist's hug was easily portrayed as embracing a new, unwanted era of super big government.

    What followed was a wave of revulsion that has propelled Mr. Rubio to the status of a new GOP up-and-comer. Some have suggested if Mr. Rubio beats Charlie Crist—recent polls have him leading by 18 to 32 points—it would lead to civil war in the Republican Party. The winner then would be the Democrat in the race, Rep. Kendrick Meek, who could portray Mr. Rubio as a creature of the far right in a state that's relatively moderate on social issues and strongly concerned with bread and butter right now.

    Mr. Rubio says he won't shy away from social issues if asked. He is pro-life and says he would support a Senate filibuster of a Supreme Court nominee under some circumstances. But his campaign is staking out an updated version of the Reagan agenda. "We're focused on jobs and national security," he says, "because those are the great and profound national issues of our moment and that's what 95% of our campaign is based on."

    Front and center is the idea that, fiscally, the federal government is running off the rails. That Washington should be "taking borrowed money to fund the general operation of government," he says, "and that somehow the government will build so many roads and bridges that everyone will have a job for the next 30 years is absurd."

    Which leads to Job One: To get spending under control in Washington, Mr. Rubio would support a constitutional amendment to balance the budget, something Florida already has in place. "I don't care whether Republicans or Democrats are in charge," he says. "If you allow politicians to spend money, they'll do it."

    He also favors freezing discretionary spending. It's a crude device and ducks the hard work of setting priorities, but "some level of discretionary spending freeze" sends "a powerful signal to our economy and the world that America is serious."

    Entitlement reform is next. "I know . . . people don't like to talk about it," but Mr. Rubio says the country has to look at changing the Social Security system for people who are 10 or more years away from retirement age. "Privatization of the accounts has come and gone," he says. "There are other alternatives, such as [raising] the retirement age, how you adjust payments in the future, 'need' measures, et cetera."

    Part and parcel is authoring a new tax code "that creates a competitive environment in America." This means lowering rates on capital gains and reducing the corporate tax rate from 35% to at most 25%, which Mr. Rubio notes is the European average. "Even the president admitted the corporate tax rate is too high," he says.

    What Mr. Rubio is talking about is an economic confidence agenda to convince Americans and the world that this country isn't incapable of dealing with its debts except through inflation and job-killing tax hikes. "The bottom line," he says, "is that jobs in America are created by people who . . . decide to start a business or expand an existing business." They will do so only if allowed to keep what they earn and don't have a "big target on their back for the government to come after them for higher taxes."

    Mr. Rubio says that for all Mr. Obama and his Democrats talk about "reform," they aren't promoting reform as a way of mastering the government's unaffordable commitments. Their idea of reform is to enlarge those commitments, starting with ObamaCare, a massive new entitlement for the middle class.

    Democrats have effectively decided to save until later the problem of how to pay for it all—though the answer is not a secret. It's a European-style value-added tax that would let the government permanently ratchet up its share of GDP. "I don't know if it's a short term goal but it's one the left has had for a long time," Mr. Rubio says of the VAT.

    America's swelling debts, he says, will trigger a demand by global lenders that "America do something, either cut spending, which will be increasingly painful as government becomes a bigger and bigger part of the economy, or find sources of revenue." Then, amid a crisis, Democrats will force voters to accept a VAT or see dramatic cuts to Social Security and Medicare just as the baby boomers are entering retirement.

    In Florida, Mr. Crist has accused Mr. Rubio of supporting an increase in the sales tax, a charge that Mr. Rubio calls "absurd" and "intellectually dishonest." The plan was a net tax cut, he says, which "basically eliminated the property tax and replaced it with a revenue-neutral consumption tax, 30% of which was paid by non Floridians entering the state." Mr. Crist supported a similar tax-swap plan from the Florida Taxation and Budget Reform Commission.

    Gov. Crist's campaign has also gone after Mr. Rubio for double billing state taxpayers and the Republican Party of Florida for eight flights while he was speaker of the house, a screw-up Mr. Rubio calls an "unfortunate" but honest error.

    A few weeks ago, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush finally broke his silence in the Crist-Rubio battle. He called Mr. Crist's support for the Obama stimulus spending bill "unforgivable" and a "mistake," saying the bill was more about advancing a permanent left-wing agenda than meeting an economic emergency.

    It's been a long time coming for those who consider Mr. Rubio to be Jeb Bush's ideological heir. At Mr. Rubio's swearing in as Florida house speaker in 2006, Mr. Bush told a story about "Chang the mystical warrior" of conservative causes before presenting Mr. Rubio with a golden "sword of the conservative warrior."

    From the popular two-term governor, Mr. Rubio says he learned that policy has to come from principle. "You're going to get criticized. You're not always going to please everybody," he says. But "even people who disagree with you will ultimately respect the fact that they knew where you stood."

    In contrast, voters are increasingly bewildered about where Mr. Obama stands. One day they hear that his health-care plan is a mere tweak that would let them "keep what they have." The next, they hear the bill is a 2,000-page monstrosity that would cost trillions of dollars and remake some 15% to 17% of the economy.

    Mr. Rubio says the rebellion goes deeper than free-marketers objecting to a massive governmental intervention in the economy. Voters feel like they've been betrayed by their leaders: "You have leaders saying, 'We know you hate this . . . but we're going to force it down your throat because it's good for you.' It's almost an elitist attitude toward the American people . . . that they [Mr. Obama and his policy allies] are smarter than the rest of us."

    On national security, he adds, the Obama administration has been a "fiasco." By making unilateral demands on the Israeli government in regard to settlements, he says, the White House took away Israel's leverage and "sent a message that America is not as committed to Israel as it once had been."

    Failing to "speak forcefully on behalf of the democratic opposition that tried to rise up in the aftermath of a fraudulent election in Iran" was another error, Mr. Rubio says. "Of course we didn't have any problem interfering with the sovereignty of Honduras a few months later," he notes, referring to Mr. Obama's objection to the removal of President Manuel Zelaya.

    Securing the border is critical, Mr. Rubio says, but he also recommends that Republicans keep their nativist impulses in check to avoid hurting the party with Latinos, a good chunk of whom are natural GOP allies on growth and opportunity. The rhetoric of some Republicans on immigration "has created a problem," he says. "I don't think the Republican Party should be the anti-illegal immigration party. We should be the pro legal immigration party, and we need to do a better job of explaining that to people."

    Mr. Rubio's fan base is similar to that of Sarah Palin, though Mr. Rubio, whose family immigrated from Cuba, gets more points for policy smarts. He's never met Ms. Palin but admires her political style: "I think she brings a level of real-life everyday sentiment that people identify with. . . . I think she energizes people."

    Among both supporters and skeptics in the GOP, there's a sense that the two, along with Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan, are among the party's leaders of the future—and also a sense that after the Bush interregnum the fundamental soul of the GOP is Reaganite after all. Money has also begun pouring in to help level the playing field against the well-funded governor.

    Mr. Rubio says that a Sarah Palin endorsement would be welcome and "a positive" at this point. But you also get a feeling he's one GOPer who doesn't need her blessing to prove he's a very different kind of Republican than those who soiled the party's brand during the Tom DeLay era. "Frankly, I think this party abandoned its roots and what made it successful," he says.

    "Most Americans support the notion of limited government. When the Republican Party has been about those things, it's been successful," he says. "When it's been about anything else it's been unsuccessful."
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    Suddenly, Rubio likes Arizona's immigration law: ... zonas.html

    August 12th, 2010 Rubio with Greta sustern @ 1:33 side steps a discussion of illegal immigration ... -susteren/ ... xt-Senator
    2.Speaker Rubio Co-Sponsored A Bill Giving Illegal Immigrants
    The Chance For In-State Tuition Costs (HB119 CS, accessed at

    Should not change the 14th Amendment debate @3:06: ... anging-the ... te/1122357 (below)

    By Beth Reinhard, Miami Herald
    In Print: Saturday, September 18, 2010

    MIAMI — No clear winner emerged from the first televised standoff among the major U.S. Senate candidates, leaving Republican frontrunner Marco Rubio on steady ground after Friday's debate hosted by Univision, the nation's largest Spanish-language television network.

    But the GOP nominee was forced to take positions on several issues that likely put him at odds with the network's audience. Hispanic voters represent about 13 percent of the Florida electorate.

    Rubio favors making English the official language of the United States and upholding Arizona's crackdown on illegal immigrants; he opposes allowing undocumented workers to earn legal status or granting citizenship to their children who attend college or serve in the military.

    "What they're offering now is a bill that would in essence grant amnesty to 2 million people," Rubio said of the so-called DREAM Act, which Senate Democrats are seeking to bring up in a politically charged debate next week. "It's a cynical way to play politics with the lives of real people. … This is what always happens with Hispanic voters in this country, they manipulate them come election time."

    Both of Rubio's rivals, Gov. Charlie Crist and Democratic nominee Kendrick Meek, declared their support for the DREAM Act and more sweeping immigration reform, and their aversion to the Arizona law and English-only proposals. The Arizona law requires police to question suspected illegal immigrants, which critics say will lead to racial and ethnic profiling.

    "We aren't supposed to discriminate against people because of what they might look like," Crist said. "I'm astounded that Speaker Rubio embraces this law."

    Rubio tried to make it clear to the audience that he is one of them, even if they don't always agree. He repeatedly invoked his own family's immigrant success story, saying his Cuban parents "lost their country'' and moved to the United States to make a better life for their children.

    Rubio ignored Meek, whose rise in the polls coincides with Crist's dip, and focused on trying to undermine the governor, who cast off his GOP affiliation four months ago on the verge of a primary election defeat.

    "Everybody sees what you're doing. Everybody gets it," Rubio said, delivering the line as a stinging rebuke. "For 20 years, you ran as a Republican on the same things you are now criticizing me for."

    Meek, a Miami congressman running third in the polls, showed the most emotion of any candidate. He sought to connect with recession-weary voters, one underdog to another, with a feisty demeanor.

    "They've stood up on behalf of special interests, on behalf of the super-wealthy their entire careers," Meek said of Crist and Rubio, who both support preserving tax cuts for families who earn more than $250,000. "I stand for people who work every day."

    Describing himself as an "independent, honest broker," Crist tried to capitalize on voters' disgust for politics-as-usual.

    "What we've seen here is a lot of finger-pointing, a lot of complaining and a lot of bickering like we see in Washington every day," Crist said. "If you want more of what you see in Washington, you can elect either of them."

    Crist's strategy could have been more effective if Rubio and Meek had been at each others' throats. But they mostly piled on Crist, making it difficult for him to come across as the fresh alternative.

    Just hours before the debate, the Republican Party of Florida released an audit of party spending that accused Crist of spending thousands of dollars in party money on family trips to Disney World and New York City. The audit made only a passing reference to Rubio's use of the party-issued American Express for personal expenses when he was House speaker.

    "I'm an honest guy," Crist said. "If someone has questions to answer about what happened at the Republican Party of Florida, it is not your governor, it's your speaker of the House."

    Miami Herald reporter Patricia Mazzei contributed to this report.
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    Marco Rubio: 'I represent the things I stand for' By Jim Acosta and Bonney Kapp, CNN September 8, 2010 12:24 p.m. EDT

    Miami, Florida (CNN) -- For Marco Rubio, life was simpler when it was tea time all the time.

    When he was gunning for the Republican nomination for the U.S. Senate in Florida, the former speaker of the Florida House of Representatives aggressively courted the state's conservative Tea Party activists. That strategy worked. Rubio was suddenly a Tea Party favorite. His stunning rise in the polls forced Florida's more moderate governor, Charlie Crist, to bolt the GOP primary to run as an independent.

    But the race is now more complicated, with Rubio competing in a three-way battle royal against both Crist and the Democratic nominee, South Florida Rep. Kendrick Meek.

    Rubio's grass-roots campaign has put together a team of high-powered Washington and Texas-based GOP consultants. Over the summer, this son of Cuban exiles distanced himself from Tea Partiers on one of the conservative movement's key issues, Arizona's tough anti-illegal immigration law.

    "The original law allowed for racial profiling. I don't think they intended that. I don't believe they did. But the original language in that law allowed for racial and ethnic profiling. And they changed that, to their credit, a week later. They passed a bill that changed that," Rubio said.

    Still, Rubio doesn't want even the amended Arizona legislation to become the law of the land. "I don't think the Arizona bill should serve as a model for the rest of the country," he added.

    In an interview with CNN, Rubio blamed both parties for the nation's problems and said he plans to be his own man if elected to the Senate. "I represent the things I stand for," Rubio said.

    Tea Party activists in Florida still support Rubio. But one of the movement's leaders, South Florida Tea Party Chairman Everett Wilkinson, says he will be watching Rubio's moves closely. "When you send a politician to Washington, you're always worried whether you're going to get the same guy back," Wilkinson said.

    One of the biggest worries among Tea Partiers is that Rubio will be another Scott Brown. The Massachusetts Republican had the backing of the Tea Party in his race to replace the late Sen. Ted Kennedy. But as a senator, Brown has shown his own independent streak and has voted on occasion with the Democrats. Not to fear, says Rubio, who is set to speak at a Tea Party rally in Florida later this month.

    But the 39-year-old Republican nominee has good reason to consider a move to the political middle in this swing state. Crist's new ads tout the governor as a fresh independent voice, forcing both Rubio and Meek to defend their respective political bases.

    That's created a fascinating sideshow in this three-ring political circus: an alliance of sorts between the Tea Party-backed Rubio and Meek. Nearly every day, both the Rubio and Meek campaigns send out e-mails blasting Crist. One of Meek's e-mails showcases a recent newspaper editorial in Florida that slammed Crist as a "campaign chameleon."

    "Charlie Crist is trying to be indefinable in this race. And that has an expiration date on it. And that date has come and passed," Meek said in an interview with CNN. Crist declined to be interviewed for this story.

    "I think people deserve to know what the next U.S. senator from Florida is going to be about," Rubio said. "The last thing we need in Florida is a political opportunist."
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    Good night and good luck. ... crats.html (The interview)

    Except from Face the Nation interview transcript: ... rPromoArea

    BOB SCHIEFFER: A lot of the Tea Party folk around the country talk about Arizona’s new immigration law. And they’d like to see that modeled in-- in every state. This is the law, of course, that allows the police officers if they stop someone for another offense to check their citizenship.

    MARCO RUBIO: Yeah.

    BOB SCHIEFFER: I think when you first heard about this law passing, you said it would create a police state. What’s your take on-- on the immigration laws? Should we have something like the Arizona law?

    MARCO RUBIO: Well, three things. Number one, Arizona legislature actually has changed the law after it first passed and prohibited things like stopping people because of ethnic profiling. And I think that was a positive change.

    Number two, I think we need to recognize that states like Arizona, California, Texas and a few others-- New Mexico are in a very unique situation. Arizona has a huge open border basically with a country in Mexico that has an all-out drug war. And Arizona is not seeing the immigration challenges of that but the security challenges of that. The public safety challenges of that. So we have to understand why Arizona did this. And they have a Tenth Amendment right to have done it.

    I’ve continued to say that the Arizona law should not be a model for the rest of the country. It should be a wake-up call to the federal government to once and for all take the issue of immigration seriously, particularly things like border security and the need for E-Verify system.


    MARCO RUBIO: If the federal government had been doing its job on immigration there never would have been an Arizona law.
    “Claiming nobody is listening to your phone calls is irrelevant – computers do and they are not being destroyed afterwards. Why build a storage facility for stuff nobody listens to?.” Martin Armstrong

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    particularly things like border security and the need for E-Verify system. [I know ALIPAC won't like that, says Watson]
    What do you mean by that? We generally support Everify. We just do not support big brother biometric ID tracking of American citizens, but using everyday to make sure documents are legit by running them against Federal databases is ok with most of us.

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