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    Quote Originally Posted by SicNTiredInSoCal

    I hate to say it, but you are right. I am finally realizing that he very well may be more dangerous than Barackula on the Amnesty issue. At least Obama is not "obsessed" with them like Mcstain is. It seems to me that he LOOKS for any chance to talk about it. The mind boggles....
    I agree with you, it's like Mark Krikorian said, McCain took it personally when his amnesty bill was defeated, so if he becomes President amnesty will be his #1 priority. Amnesty is more likely with McCain as President than Obama.
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    Bowman wrote:

    I agree with you, it's like Mark Krikorian said, McCain took it personally when his amnesty bill was defeated, so if he becomes President amnesty will be his #1 priority. Amnesty is more likely with McCain as President than Obama.
    I don't agree. Obama is just a little smarter than McCain is on the issue. Obama already has the majority of Hispanics supporting him, and has no reason to continue sucking up at every turn. Furthermore, Obama's party will be pushing amnesty legislation the first chance they get. Does anyone actually think Obama won't sign it?

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    Yup, McCain is obsessed with mass amnesty, which is obviously a personal crusade for him. And he'll grasp at just about any straw to push IA amnesty. I would bet he's still seething at the American people for defeating his prior amnesty schemes. That's why IMO he's more dangerous on this issue than Obama.
    You can bet he is still seething, he is an angry angry man and will be a tyrant if elected. He will jump on the amnesty band wagon as soon as elected. BOTH MCCAIN AND OBAMA will be pushing it first chance they get. Mc Cain has Juan as an advisor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW
    I don't agree. Obama is just a little smarter than McCain is on the issue. Obama already has the majority of Hispanics supporting him, and has no reason to continue sucking up at every turn. Furthermore, Obama's party will be pushing amnesty legislation the first chance they get. Does anyone actually think Obama won't sign it?
    The Democratic leaders might talk about it, but 1/3 of House Democrats are against amnesty. Then they also have to get 40 Republicans in the Senate to vote for it. I don't think that will happen, especially since McCain is going to loose partly because of his support for amnesty.
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    especially since McCain is going to loose partly because of his support for amnesty
    You got that right! It just seems so very strange to me that he is so into the amnesty that he is willing to lose American conservative votes for it. Truth be told, I'd vote for him in a minute if he was not so obsessed with amnesty. Ok, maybe not a minute, but the chances would greatly, greatly increase that he'd get my vote and many others vote. What an old fool....
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    Quote Originally Posted by SicNTiredInSoCal
    You got that right! It just seems so very strange to me that he is so into the amnesty that he is willing to lose American conservative votes for it. Truth be told, I'd vote for him in a minute if he was not so obsessed with amnesty.
    I agree. So where does his obsession for amnesty come from? Why does he elevate uneducated Mexican criminals above American citizens? Is it all the Globalists money, or did he also have a Mexican nanny like Bush did?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bowman
    Quote Originally Posted by SicNTiredInSoCal
    You got that right! It just seems so very strange to me that he is so into the amnesty that he is willing to lose American conservative votes for it. Truth be told, I'd vote for him in a minute if he was not so obsessed with amnesty.
    I agree. So where does his obsession for amnesty come from? Why does he elevate uneducated Mexican criminals above American citizens? Is it all the Globalists money, or did he also have a Mexican nanny like Bush did?
    Dunno, but as much as he loves amnesty, is likely as much as I look up to Sarah Pailin. However it is still not enough to get my vote ...for him. if it was HER, that might be a different story.
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    The Democratic leaders might talk about it, but 1/3 of House Democrats are against amnesty. Then they also have to get 40 Republicans in the Senate to vote for it. I don't think that will happen, especially since McCain is going to loose partly because of his support for amnesty.
    If you're depending on the Senate to rescue us from an amnesty, I think you're looking in the wrong place. Remember, the U.S. Senate has already passed one amnesty S. 2611. Where do you get the #40 for Republicans in the Senate being needed for an amnesty to pass? They don't need 40 because most Senate Democrats support amnesty. Furthermore, we're in serious jeopardy of losing some of those (Republicans) who have stood with us in the past. For example, it looks like Sen. Dole is in for the fight of her political career. There are also other anti-amnesty Republicans the could lose their seats in the Senate.

    As for the U.S. House of Representatives, we're in serious trouble there too, especially should Obama get elected. Not only are we going to lose some of our allies in the House during the elections - we're also going to get hurt by retirements.

    Whether folks want to believe it or not, we could be in real trouble next year. The Democrats already own the Congress and it looks like they're going to seriously pad their numbers with new recruits this election cycle. I'm not looking forward to a continued Democrat controlled Congress, and I'm certainly not looking forward to King Obama ruling over the castle.

    The Republicans will fight McCain just like they did Bush on amnesty. However, there will be fewer of them during the next go around. The Democrats on the other hand will be pushing for an amnesty knowing full well that Obama will be sitting in the White House waiting for it.

    I'm hopeful a poor economy and high unemployment rate will help us stop an amnesty in 2009. I don't know for sure, but I'm thinking that there won't be many folks, Democrats and Republicans, eager to sign their name to an amnesty if the economy is in the pits and many of their constituents are out of work.

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    And on top of this McCain is making the idiotic, desperate, socialistic proposal for the govt to buy bad mortgages (lowering principal and interest rates to about 5% ) and effectively spit in the eye of responsible homeowners who have been making their payments. This from a supposedly Republican nominee, an alleged "fiscal hawk" (what a joke).

    I spoke to many of my conservatives friends today and they are all PO'd at McCain for pushing this pathetic scheme in an attempt to prop up his foundering campaign.
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    ok, heres a silly question.

    Where will we be, here at ALIPAC, if amnesty does pass? Will there be anything left to fight for or will we have to close the doors here?

    Has this question been addressed before? If it has, I obviously missed it.
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