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    I don't seen anyone rushing out there to clean up the mess left behind in the desert from these people, they will use anything to stop that fence, when are they going to realize we are on to them, IT WON'T WORK ANYMORE!!! BUILD THE DAMN FENCE!!!!



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    The problem is our president will listen to them. We already know that he took the side of Mexican murders over the side of American law (Bush vs Texas). this is just another reason so that Bush and his administration does not have to build the fence to protect America and its lawful citizens.

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    They'll scream and whine, because they are trying to delay the inevitable!

    Paying for their own poor and infrastructure!
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    Just visit Mexico City or take a deep breath when the ill wind blows toward El Paso TX from accross the border. I rest my case
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    My company is paying big bucks for people willing to transfer to El Paso to train illegals. No one has applied to go. The place is disgusting.
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    Here's the entire article:
    Mexico is now worried about endangered species, pollen, water, and insects? This doesn't mention one word about Mexico paying for any "improvements". They want bridges for animals? Green corridors instead of fencing that they say will be LESS appealing to smugglers? No radar, for the "animals" sake? They really care if the US loses out on the Mexican pollen and insects? They don't care about the endangered species or like someone else said, THEY would be cleaning up all the trash left behind. They are trying to use that excuse to make it easier for the human illegal border crossers AND the drug smugglers that help their economy.

    Mexico urges fence changes to aid animals
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    Tucson, Arizona | Published: 07.31.2007
    MEXICO CITY — The Mexican government said Monday it is seeking changes in a U.S. plan to expand fences along the two nations' border because of the threat to migratory species accustomed to roaming freely across the frontier. The Environment Department said the fences would seriously hurt species that cross the 1,952-mile border, and said the United States needs to alter or mitigate the barriers — aimed at stopping migrants from crossing illegally into the U.S. — where necessary.
    Mexico also wants Washington to expand its environmental impact study on the fences and will file a complaint with the United Nations' International Court of Justice in the Hague, Netherlands if necessary.
    "The eventual construction of this barrier would place at risk the various ecosystems that we share," said Environment Secretary Juan Rafael Elvira, noting that the border includes desert, mountains, rivers and wetlands.
    A report prepared for the Mexican government by experts and activists from both nations said the fences could isolate border animals into smaller population groups, affecting their genetic diversity.
    Exequiel Ezcurra, director of research at the San Diego Natural History Museum, stressed that Mexico would not be the only loser from the construction of 700 miles of border fencing: the United States could lose visits from Mexican jaguars and black bears that have enriched U.S. ecosystems.
    Environmentalists say highly endangered species such as the antelope-like Sonoran pronghorn — of which only about 100 still exist — could be wiped out in coming years, because they are used to moving across the border in search of scarce grassland.
    Even strong lighting or radar could interfere with nocturnal species in border areas, and construction, maintenance and traffic along the walls would affect a wider strip of border land than just the fences themselves, the report states.
    Elvira did not say what alternatives to the fences might be, but the report suggested creating bridge areas so ecosystems can remain connected, and wilderness areas or "green corridors" without roads that experts say may be less attractive to smugglers.
    It also suggested "live" fences of cacti, non-permanent or removable fencing, night-vision instead of radar and more permeable fencing to allow water, insects and pollen to move across the border.

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    Training them to do what? Take away more american jobs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paige
    My company is paying big bucks for people willing to transfer to El Paso to train illegals. No one has applied to go. The place is disgusting.
    por las chupacabras todo, fuero de las chupacabras nada

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    Cut off diplomatic relations with them. Give their consulates/ambassadors 30 days to leave the country. Any of them caught here after that, ARREST them.
    Hmmmmmmm if they stayed, could they be arrested for being illegal in this country??

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    Ecosystem?? They will create phony stories in order to stop the fence from being built. Sickening.
    The National Council of LaRaza is the largest*hate group.

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    Oh take away jobs. You bet that is exactly what they are doing. They are opening huge call centers. You will be listening to Hispanic accented people answering your questions soon.
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