Thread: Mitt Romney

Originally Posted by nntrixie

I have an article.........The US/US citizens are paying over $300 billion a year for illegals being here!! And, that is a conservative figure, because nobody really knows how many are here!!!

Can you imagine what that money could do for US citizens??

He is brilliant as a business man. Plus, Romney did put in a very successful health care plan in Massachusetts!!!

Bren, I didn't know how much, but I know it is a lot.

My point is - yes, Romney may be a brilliant businessman - that doesn't mean he doesn't think Americans shouldn't foot the bill for illegals. I repeat, there are a lot of brilliant American businessmen that think American taxpayers should foot the bill for Mexico and it's illegals. Being a businessman doesn't mean he puts America or Americans first. In fact, being a businessman puts him in the suspect column.

What do you mean by a successful healthcare plan?

Well, right now, Romney is the best that we have!!!

And, if anyone thinks that Ron Paul is not capable of screwing us as well----then they need to look as some of the evidence!!!

It sure doesn't look like Ron Paul is concerned about protecting jobs for US citizens!!

Nearly doubled H-1B foreign
high-tech workers in 1998
Rep. Paul helped the House pass H.R.3736. Enacted into law, it increased by nearly 150,000 the number of foreign workers high-tech American companies could hire over the next three years. Although the foreign workers receive temporary visas for up to six years, most historically have found ways to stay permanently in this country. Rep. Paul voted for more foreign workers even though U.S. high tech workers over the age of 50 were suffering 17% unemployment and U.S. firms were laying off thousands of workers at the time.


Voted in 1998 to allow firms to lay off Americans
to make room for foreign workers
Before the House passed the H-1B doubling bill (H.R.3736), Rep. Paul had an opportunity to vote for a Watt Substitute bill that would have forbidden U.S. firms from using temporary foreign workers to replace Americans. Rep. Paul opposed that protection. The substitute also would have required U.S. firms to check a box on a form attesting that they had first sought an American worker for the job. Rep. Paul voted against that. The protections for American workers fell 33 votes short of passing.

Bren4824

If you bothered to read the legislation where Ron Paul voted in such a way as you disapprove, maybe you would find out why.

This debate is supposed to be positive! Please READ legislation before damning it.

Originally Posted by CitizenJustice

Bren4824

If you bothered to read the legislation where Ron Paul voted in such a way as you disapprove, maybe you would find out why.

This debate is supposed to be positive! Please READ legislation before damning it.

This information was provided through Numbersusa-----so they apparently were concerned about it as well!!

As well as the fact that in 2005, he voted NO to Duncan Hunter's border fence/increased security and technology----along the border as well.

Originally Posted by CitizenJustice

Bren4824

If you bothered to read the legislation where Ron Paul voted in such a way as you disapprove, maybe you would find out why.

This debate is supposed to be positive! Please READ legislation before damning it.

Also, keep in mind..........

Based on this voting, he also has NO plan for going after employers or holding employers accountable----which is the ONLY thing that worked in Airzona for getting illegals to leave.

Based on his voting record above----and the fact that he has no plans for going after employers-----he may be just looking out for his business buddies.

The north american union includes Mexico. Lets not forget that is why Bush has let them all in. The North American Union is going to be like living in a Socialist government. If we don't rid ourselves of illegal Hispanics here then it is just going to make it that much easier for SPP.
In a socialist government everyone lives the same. They make the same money, they all pay the same taxes and no one lives higher then another person. They completely get rid of the middle class.
With the illegals moving into our country, (invading our country with the help of our government) you will notice that they are occupying homes, buy bigger and better cars then we are and have there medical care taken care of. The biggest picture to all of this is that our politicans are trying to make them equal to the middle class people. If you look around you, it is happening, if you look around you they are trying to force spanish down our throats and the throats of our children.
Illegal Immigration is SPP like it or not.

Romney is our best, most viable alternative. Paul & Hunter are NOT going to win, so we have to get behind the best choice we have -- unless we want open borders Obama, Clinton, McCain, Giuliani etc.

I hope people comprehend this.

paige - Illegal Immigration is SPP like it or not

That's it. Without the illegals occupying this country, the SPP, NAU or whatever they want will be much harder to get in place. I believe that is the whole point of flooding this country with them.

As for Ron Paul and Numbers USA - I don't know much about the Numbers USA organization. I did see a video of the man, Beck is it, talking about immigration and he made a lot of sense.

I am trying to find out if all these ratings from the various organizations are based only on the voting of bills that are considered immigration bills.


When Paul says he would enforce the law - then I consider some prosecution of employers to be in there - since it is already the law. But if we enforce our laws, they can't work.

I do agree that going after the employers seems to be working in AZ.

But if the laws are being enforced, the illegals won't be able to find a job - that's the way it works. Personally, I would like to see all employers put in the pokey and sentenced to hard labor - but mostly I want the illegals to go home.

If someone says they will enforce the laws as written - do they need to spell out every law and how they will enforce it?

Originally Posted by Populist

Romney is our best, most viable alternative. Paul & Hunter are NOT going to win, so we have to get behind the best choice we have -- unless we want open borders Obama, Clinton, McCain, Giuliani etc.

I hope people comprehend this.

Romney might be our only choice some day, but I am not ready to give up on on Paul or Thompson yet.

And, if Romney says "No amnesty, enforce the laws"-----we can also assume that he means he will FORCE them to leave.

And, Romney has a VERY clear plan for going after employers and holding them accountable.

Romney may very well be our choice - a choice given us by the 'powers that be' and that frightens me a lot. I distrust anyone annointed by the movers and shakers.

If he is the choice, I doubt I will vote for him, but will hope for the best.

I consider Paul and Hunter candidates put forward by the people - and that makes them attractive to me.