Thread: I had a bad Sunday

I find it hard to be Catholic and go to church these days.You would figure you could find peace from the outside world but the OBL and the globalists have crept into my church as well.

I belong to one Catholic church, but sometimes I go to another in the area for scheduling reasons. I went several weeks ago and heard a priest say we should put aside nationality. I was shocked. I ignored the comment and went on with my life.

This weekend I went to the same church and another priest talked about how he didn't mean to be political, but the immigration issue was such a big issue in America. He suggested that how would we feel if we were at the gates of heaven and were refused entry by Saint Peter, who would say,"go back to your own country."

I was shocked and quite mad at the fact that this priest would suggest we would probably all not go to heaven if we did'nt welcome these illegals, who he classified as refugees and just immigrants. No mention of lawbreaking, identity theft, job stealing, drunk driving, social service being stolen, hospitals closing ect..

In that same weekend I had a family member who went to the church I attend regularly. At that mass, the priest also talked about how we should put aside nationalism.

I know the Catholic church are universalists, but have they forgotten that fact they have an American flag in every church and what it symbolizes.



FREEDOM TO WORSHIP is one of the meanings. I am on the edge of leaving. I have the right to follow my conscious, and it does not agree with destroying my country. I feel my church has turned it's back on the American Catholics and people for lawbreakers in this country. I know the majority of Catholics I know agree with me. If they had passed that immigration nonesense it would have let in 100 million people in who would not be loyal to America and would sink us for sure.

I never here mention of the ill effects of illegal immigration on law abiding Legal Immigrants and the American citizens.

Are there any other Catholics on this board who have heard this kind of sermon? Is this message being sent from the hierachy to be spread to the masses?

Maybe it's just sour grapes for losing, but if I continually here this crap this lifelong Catholic is leaving. I also have other family members who feel the same.

I don't fault any church for giving spirtual comfort to anyone - regardless.
I don't fault any church for giving emergency aid - food, medicene, etc. to anyone.

I fault any church that encourages, abets, supports the breaking of the law of the land, especially when they are fully aware of the cost to the people whose forefathers built the land.

The Catholic Church is at the forefront, but I fear other churches are involved also.

CC, next time you should ask him about why very few church leaders are endorsing or preaching Romans 13:1-7.

I'd like to see any church leader argue their way out of this one.

That's what I've heard is going on.....not just in Catholic churches either. They are saving souls for the here-after.....in Gods eyes.....etc.....there's no mention of laws or that God even recognises them. Won't even touch base with the basics of the 10 commandments.....lying, stealing, etc. etc. No mention of encouraging people to do right......

Alot of the churches have a seperate service for Spanish speakers and many of the churches signs are in both English and Spanish....some are English, Spanish and Arabic.

The church I used to go to even had seperate Summer Bible Schools.

and Verse 13:

LET US WALK HONESTLY, AS IN THE DAY; NOT IN RIOTING AND DRUNKENNESS, NOT IN CHAMBERING AND WANTONNESS, NOT IN STRIFE AND ENVYING.`

A lot of Baptist Churches have a 'mission' of supporting a Spanish church. Some have the services in the same building, some will simply purchase or rent another building and pay the expenses.

I am not really sure how I feel about that. I would feel better if they were simply dealing with their souls, at the same time encouraging them to go home.

What does bother me is that almost every church has a 'church closet', supplies of clothing, household goods and food. The illegals are encouraged and they do, make use of that in a big way. It would not surprise me to find they are accessing these sources and then take the items to the flea markets or have garage sales.

A lady who owned a dairy was whining to me about the fact her 'Mexicans' left without notice the week before. No sympathy here.

She did say, however, that the various government aid organizations had all been out to check on this family and sign them up for various things and that several churches came on a regular basis with boxes of food, clothing, etc.

She said she had told them the people were doing fine. They lived in a trailer, but it was nice, heating and A/C, and she took them to town regularly to buy food, etc., and for any medical treatment. The kids all went to school.

She said when they moved out, she cleaned out a huge, really huge pile of clothing and food they had just let ruin because they had far too much.

Originally Posted by CCUSA

I was shocked and quite mad at the fact that this priest would suggest we would probably all not go to heaven if we did'nt welcome these illegals who he classified as refugees and just immigrants.

They are not immigrants, because immigrants enter with permission from the country they enter. If they are politicial refugess then we should be forcing a regime change in Mexico like we did to Germany in WWII.

Stuff like this is why I am no longer a Catholic.

Originally Posted by nntrixie

A lot of Baptist Churches have a 'mission' of supporting a Spanish church.

Why aren't they supporting a church in Mexican/Central American instead?

Originally Posted by Bowman

Originally Posted by nntrixie

A lot of Baptist Churches have a 'mission' of supporting a Spanish church.

Why aren't they supporting a church in Mexican/Central American instead?

Actually, many of them do that also. There are big missionary efforts in Mexico - lots and lots of them, to be fair. Americans have been very, very generous to Mexico over the years. We not only have always been very free with foreign aid, but Americans, as individuals and churches, have funded and supported orphanages, hospitals, schools, and churches.

Our neighbor, now ex, just spent 2 months down there building a church last year.

My brother's church, two years ago, took a convoy of trucks and trailers down there loaded with books, appliances, clothing, etc., for an orphanage their church supports.

My grandsons' best friend's family are missionaries down there.

We are a very generous people - Mexico never mentions that when they are making their demands and calling us all manner of names.

I agree.

They should be helping these people in their own countries. If ANYONE breaks the law they have to face the consequences. I am not going to let big business line their pockets with illegal labor and let then guilt us using the churches, into paying the social and security costs that these illegals bring with them.


America is not supposed to support the whole world. If the churches want to support them, let them with their own money and in the lands these people come from if they have the calling.