Thread: Obama to provide free college at taxpayer expense.

Originally Posted by MW

Okay, what's your point? Are you saying you support Obama on this? Just asking ..........

NO. Just pointing out facts.

1. 1982 Supreme Court decision in Texas case said public ...
   
   www.politifact.com/.../1982-supreme-court-decision-texas...
   
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   Sep 25, 2013 - The U.S. Supreme Court decided in 1982 that non-citizen children must get free K-12 education. ... Board of Education anti-segregation ruling but has "none of the same ... guarantee that laws in the U.S. be applied to all people in the same way...

Originally Posted by MW

Yep, "all kids" .......... including illegal alien kids!

The U.S. Supreme Court decided in 1982 that non-citizen children must get free K-12 education. ... Board of Education anti-segregation ruling but has "none of the same ... guarantee that laws in the U.S. be applied to all people in the same way...
1982 Supreme Court decision in Texas case said public ...

How can US Supreme Court decisions be overturned?

No single entity - not the President, Senate, House of Representatives, state Governors, nor anyone else - has the power to overturn a US Supreme Court ruling.

Supreme Court decisions cannot be nullified by other parts of government. However, if the Supreme Court strikes down a federal law, Congress can always modify the law until it is such that the Supreme Court does not consider it to violate the Constitution, then pass it again.

Supreme Court decisions can only be overturned in two ways:

Legitimate Methods

1. The US Supreme Court reverses a decision on an earlier case by making a contradictory decision on a current case.
2. Congress and the States can overturn a decision by amending the Constitution.

Illegitimate Methods (Passive Resistance)

1. Sometimes the Executive Branch obstructs or fails to enforce a decision.
2. Sometimes Congress rewrites legislation to bring it into compliance with constitutional guidelines.
3. Sometimes Congress strips the Supreme Court of its appellate jurisdiction over certain types of cases to deprive them of the ability to overturn a law or policy.
4. Sometimes states pass laws that clearly violate Supreme Court decisions, forcing someone with standing to challenge the new law's constitutionality. Meanwhile, the law can be enforced even if violates established civil rights. State legislatures do this with the hope of overturning, or slipping around, precedents set by earlier Courts.

Contributor's Example
Don burns the US Flag on the steps of a state capitol. The state arrests him because the state amended its own constitution to make this illegal. However, the US Supreme Court ruled that flag burning is protected speech, thereby making flag burning lawful under US law.

If the case is appealed to the US Supreme Court, it would rule that the state constitutional amendment violates the US Constitution (which is superior) and strike down the state amendment.

The state then writes a law that Don has to buy a permit to burn the flag in any form of protest. The US Supreme Court might uphold that law (if challenged) as long as it fulfills a legitimate government purpose, but does not: 1) discriminate in who the permits are issued to, or 2) make the cost or time involved in issuance of the permit unbearable. Sometimes such laws are deemed unconstitutional, and sometimes not.

http://www.answers.com/Q/How_can_US_..._be_overturned

Okay, what's your point? Are you saying you support Obama on this? Just asking .........

This plan will cost taxpayers 60 billion dollars over a ten year period.

I am with you MW, I don't support Obama. Just because we pay for K-12 doesn't mean that we have to pay for secondary education. People can get their secondary education paid for by excelling in schoo. Are we just paying to lower the bar?

MW, according to this article from the Hill, it is going to cost 34 Billion a year. And we know that once the government starts picking up the tab, the cost skyrockets.

Looks like Cecelia Munoz is running it so we know that US citizen's education will not be the priority, it will be for illegals.

Obama's 'Free' Community College Plan Could Cost $34B Per Year

7:01 AM, JAN 9, 2015 •
BY JERYL BIER

Previewing an item from his upcoming State of the Union address, President Obama announced a "Free Community College" plan Thursday evening for "anyone who's willing to work for it":

According to Justin Sink of the Hill, Cecilia Muñoz, director of the White House Domestic Policy Council, declined to put a price tag on the plan during a conference call Thursday evening. Rather Muñoz said details of the plan will be in the president's next budget proposal.

However, the president's announcement said that the plan could benefit as many as nine million students who could save an average of $3,800 per year. This would put the total cost at a little more than $34 billion.

In a video accompanying the announcement, the president said that his plan would be "making two years of community college free for anyone who's willing to work for it." At $34 billion per year, taxpayers at least will be working for it, willing or not.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...ar_823398.html

We can only hope that the Supreme Court won't add 2 years of college to their K thru 12 ruling because if they do there is nothing anyone can do to force them to change it.

How can US Supreme Court decisions be overturned?

No single entity - not the President, Senate, House of Representatives, state Governors, nor anyone else - has the power to overturn a US Supreme Court ruling. . .

What will the Republican politicians do to stop this insanity?

http://www.alipac.us/f9/republicans-...ything-314518/

One could look at this as a cynical ploy to build support for Democrats in 2016 since they seem to be losing the youth vote....

Originally Posted by Newmexican

One could look at this as a cynical ploy to build support for Democrats in 2016 since they seem to be losing the youth vote....

Excellent point!

I hope someone can find a way to stop it real quick. Before it passes.

Originally Posted by MW

Okay, what's your point? Are you saying you support Obama on this? Just asking .........

This plan will cost taxpayers 60 billion dollars over a ten year period.

NO. Just pointing out FACTS.