Thread: Outrageous Day Laborers at Home Depot

The situation you describe is terrible! That manager should be fired.

How dare a manager bow to the whims of a bunch of illegal alien VAGABONDS instead of the store's customers!

I WOULD BE TERRIFIED TO HAVE SEVERAL MEN, WHO CANT EVEN SPEAK ENGLISH, SURROUND ME AND MY CAR, PANHANDLING FOR MONEY!

I would be afraid to shop there! CALL THE POLICE & REPORT THEM!

Butterbean is right AmericanMe. You should go back and get that managers name who basically blew you off and report him. He should be fired for his inaction on behalf of a loyal customer in favor of an illegal invader who will never spend a dime in that store.

AmericanMe, up here, I have never seen one day laborer in a HD parking lot, and I have been to quite a few in the metro area. What happens is that they congregate in the lower area of Portland, where a lot contractors go to get supplies (the industrial area down by the river).

My brother is a contractor and he was in that area one day getting some gas furnace supplies and he was beseiged turning the corner. He honked and yelled "get out of the way nimrods!". Needless to say, he got flipped off by a few (apparently they did understand and speak English!).

He said down there they have learned to recognize contractors by a few things, usually it is the ladder racks and types of vehicles. However, none at the home improvement stores here, thank goodness.

Definitely call local police and HD's headquarters. That would be just too scary and to think they are doing it to older citizens, not acceptable.

OMG -- I would have been mortified. And I would have also dialed 911. That is such a volatile situation -- they could take a woman and rape her right there in a car or whatever.

This is just lawlessness, plain and simple -- I just cannot even gather the words at the moment.

Originally Posted by Populist

AmericanMe,

I would videotape this if you can, and complain in writing to the CEO and senior management of Home Depot, and also write this up as a letter to the editor to your local paper. The only way HD will do anything is if they receive negative publicity (in the MSM, and also youtube etc.)

Corporate leadership of Home Depot:

http://corporate.homedepot.com/wps/portal/CEO

I would video tape it. Get it on YouTube. Call Atlanta and tell them how they can view the assaults on their customers at their stores. My hubby works part time for HD after he retired. We have a Regional VP who is a friend. He is the VP for the West Coast. I'll PM you and give you his name.

We had a homeless guy approach us once and aggressively ask numerous times for money.

I later asked a cop friend about this. He said if they ask more than once then it's against the law. Panhandling. For some reason they are allowed to ask once?! This is in Illinois.

Find out in your state. Good luck pursuing this. I feel badly for the senior citizens they bombard and scare.

So sorry that had to happen to you AmericanMe! It makes me crazy that this is happening in our country. I'm so mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore! I live in Glendale, California and I've been seeing an illegal selling fruit on a residential street. I called the cop's on his butt last week. Haven't seen him since then. I will keep calling the cop's until he is gone FOREVER!! I'm going to e-mail Home Depot and give them a piece of my mind! Thank you for posting this, it is our time to fight back and WIN!! Enough already!

I e-mailed them and I feel much better for giving them a piece of my mind. If they continue to let this happen they will go out of business and it will serve them right! Do not cross AMERICAN CITIZENS!

I have a story about illegal employment for you all.

My 25 year old daughters boyfriend is currently doing general labor cinstruction for a privately owned business. He himself is being paid under the table for the "probationary period" and likely will be a full time on the books employee in the next couple of weeks.

They finished a roofing job and were too tired to do the clean-up, so the guy he was working with drove down to the area of Portland that the illegals hang out, and he (her boyfriend) said that one by one they came out from behind this building, then saw thse two in the truck and swarmed the truck. The guy he was working with laughed and thought this was kind of funny.

Now I am steaming as my daughter is telling me this, and then she tells me that he paid the three illegal workers $10.00 hourly!!!!! I told her that there were so many Americans sitting down at the day labor offices who would jump at $10.00 hourly as they normally only get minimum wage if the office gives them a job.

I am mad at her as she thought it was sort of funny how these guys will just walk away from their friends and family on the streets and jump into Lord knows who car to unknown destinations. I told her that she has forgotten how it was once us depending on her step-father getting day labor jobs about 10 years ago when he was out of work, and how little that minimum wage went for, and how terrible he felt.

Boy, the youger set sometimes just do not get it and I get so mad at her for that, plus she refuses to even vote (I sometimes wonder who's kid she really is?).

I wonder if the "privately owned business" knows this contractor did this? I would fire their behinds if they put them on my property.

You know these guys could be in real trouble. One of these days I wouldn't be surprised to see serial things happening if they just jump into trucks like that.

Originally Posted by Bowman

Print this out and hand it to them:

Poor foreigners needing help welcome
Undocumented status OK
Gavin Newsom
1 Dr. Carlton B. Goodlett Place
San Francisco, CA 94102
(415) 554-4933

Good one, Bowman! Might I also suggest to those of you in Californico to hand out Nancy Pelosi's address and phone number as well!

Everyone has posted great advice. Please keep us posted on any further developments, AmericanMe!

I would also like to add that I agree with jjmm. It is very important for females, in particular, to be extremely careful in situations such as these. In some cultures (political correctness), attitudes and tolerance of violence against women is quite different than it is in the U.S. Please see below:

From: LibertadLatina.org

http://www.libertadlatina.org/Crisis_La ... chismo.htm

LibertadLatina.org is a non-profit project that works to end the sexual exploitation of all women and children in the Americas. We focus on building effective defenses against the many forms of criminal impunity that threaten the lives of Indigenous & Latina women & children wherever they may be.

LibertadLatina.org is the largest source of human rights advocacy information available (with over 500 factual documents) on the Internet in regard to Latina and indigenous women and children’s exploitation issues. We continue to expand that important mission day-by-day and year-by-year.

Listen, Learn, Live! 1999 World AIDS Campaign
AIDS Information Exchange Newsletter
July, 1999

Excerpt from: http://www.cafod.org.uk/aids_news_July99.htm

Machismo (the risk-taking and often predatory behaviours with which young men are expected to prove their masculinity) typifies the role models that are particularly dominant in countries of Latin America and the Caribbean. Machismo puts lives in danger not least the lives of the young men themselves. Young men are expected to demonstrate their virility with early and frequent sex, and multiple partners.

Macho attitudes can help to sow the seeds of violence. While the prime victims of male violence are other men, these acts rarely amplify the HIV risk directly (exceptions include cases of rape in all-male settings such as detention centers). However, women who are targets of male violence (often at the hands of their husband/partner) are put at risk of HIV...

...Machista [macho-ist] values influence legislation on rape. In 14 Latin American countries a man may legally rape his wife or fiancée and in some countries including Argentina and Chile-a rapist need only propose marriage to escape prosecution.

Legacy of Mesoamerica, The: History and Culture of a Native American Civilization by Robert M. Carmack(Editor), et al. University of Albany Paperback (August 9, 1995)

Today, in this same part of the world, machismo - "the ideology that places a high value on virility as a result of ‘conquering’ a large number of women - is widespread in the region," writes Rosenbaum. "Machismo shapes the region’s patriarchal system in specific ways, placing women under the control of men who may eventually abandon them."

Machismo (A Definition) Creatividad Feminista (Feminist Creativity) - Spain

Machismo...(macho-ism) is a collection of laws, norms, attitudes and characteristics of men whose finality, explicitly or implicitly, has been and is, is to produce, maintain and perpetuate the enslavement and submission of women on all levels: sexual, procreation, and in relation to work and love. The word machismo is used fundamentally in the scope of colloquial and popular life. The term most appropriate (above all at the ideological level) to express this concept is sexism, given that the first term (machismo) is used to characterize those acts, physical or verbal, by means of which are manifested in vulgar form the underlying sexism that exists in the social structure. On the psychological level, the difference between sexism and machismo is that 'sexism' is conscious and machismo is unconscious; that is to say, the believer in machismo acts like one without being capable of being able to explain or recognize the internal reasoning behind his actions, given that the machista (macho-ist) is limited to only imitating and putting into practice the crude behaviors of sexism of the culture to which he belongs by nationality and social condition. For that reason a macho-ist can feel comfortable being proud and conceited in regard to his being "very male" (muy macho).

Nevertheless if a man's personality does not have at its foundation misoginism (hatred/fear of women, very closely bound to sexism), he can try to self-defeat many aspects of macho-ist behavior.

The woman shares in machismo to the extent that she is not conscious of the power structures which machismo regulates in the relationship between the sexes, and to the extent to which she imitates those behaviors and/or contributes to men continuing to practice macho-ist behaviors.

"No, to machismo! No, to domestic violence!"
Honduras This Week Online By W. E. GUTMAN

In Latin America concepts of masculinity are encapsulated in the word "machismo." At its most extreme, writes the London-based Panos Institute, an organization dedicated to stimulating debate on global environment and development issues, machismo maintains a man's superiority and dominance over women, granting him the right to do as he pleases within and outside the family home and the authority to restrict the freedom of his wife, sisters and daughters. Machos subscribe to the saying: "Women are like shotguns; they should be kept loaded [pregnant] and indoors."

If machismo translates into strength, machista attitudes are no more than the armor men wear to hide their weakness and complex of inferiority.

According to Michael Kimmel, a specialist in gender relations, "most men feel ...impotent. Even though they know that the definition of masculinity is 'to be in power, to be the captain of my fate and master of my soul,' they feel trapped in old, suffocating roles, unable to make the changes they want in their lives."

This sense of impotence, exacerbated by unemployment, poverty, ethnic disorientation, and heightened by alcoholism and depression, frequently leads to violence, perpetuating a pattern in which men who were beaten as boys by fathers and who saw their fathers beat their wives react to challenges to their authority in the only way they know.

Additionally, the opposition of the Catholic Church to the liberalization of women's roles continues to place serious obstacles in the path of efforts to reduce the effects of machismo. In a country where 90 percent of the population is Roman Catholic, the Church wields enormous power and influence both on the government and the people. Playing the nationalist card, it claims that campaigns promoting women's rights reflect subversive political interests.

News for Women
Mexico City
June 7, 2006

Human Rights Group: There Is No Doubt That Police Sexual Assaults Against Women In Atenco Were A Form Of Torture

According to Felicitas Treue, a psychotherapist working with the non-profit group Collective Against Torture And Impunity, there is no doubt that the sexual assaults faced by 23 women at the hands of policemen during a police operation in early May 2006 were a form of toture.

As a participant in the round table session “The women of Atenco,â€