Thread: PLEASE - PLEASE LOOK at THIS!!! Teaching KIT for Elementary

Two words: Home school

Two more: Private school

Yes! Do whatever you must to make sure your kids are taught the truth.

My grandkids (3) are in private school as I told you already and after this post I asked and found out that the school is more discret but even then they make the chidren read a book about a'poor" mexican girl and her family and how they immigrate to America.
This book was object of a big project which the children have to make a scrapbook talking about each caracther . Last ear this project was also due to my other grandkid when he was in the 8 th grade now he is in 9th grade and he as my grandaughter (8 thgrade) did this year read and made the project.
Why not an American classic book

When I went to school back in Canada, we discussed immigrants from other countries. In history class we focused on the English and French settlers and in another class we discussed immigration from other countries. Our textbooks were about mass immigration of different ethnic groups through different time periods in history. It focused on the adults who had to learn English, get a job and adapt in other ways to their new country. In grade 8 we had to do two projects on it. The first project was that we were to speak with a family member or family friend who immigrated and write about their experience. The second one was about another ethnic group and what they experienced. I think it was to show that no matter where you came from the people all had hardships and shared similar experiences. The big difference was that these were legal immigrants who came to make a better life by working hard and not accepting handouts.

Originally Posted by AmericanElizabeth

Crocket, that is exactly what we are doing, Homeschooling. Oregon decided in the 1990's to start this program called "Goals 2000", which was really Outcome Based Education in hiding.

Our oldest one was hitting middle school when they started to implement it. They had not textbooks for her to work with, and they only sent home these confusing papers for her to work on, that we were supposed to know how to help her. Then we went to the school time and again to try to get some help from them, to no avail. Finally in they pushed her through to 9th grade with a 1.7 GPA! They did not tell us it was so low.

When she started high school, she was in the lowest math possible, and still struggled, then midway through the year her school counselor suggested we simply have her get her GED since she was so far behind.

My thoughts on this, they knew that her lack of knowledge was a show of their failure in this coveted yet failure of a program, an untried curriculum, so they simply pushed her and many other students out, so the numbers of those who were able to be successful in it, would look good the state and federal government, thus keeping their funding.

Then a couple of kids later, and still a lousy system, we pulled the youngest two out before it became the problem we had before.

We need to abolish federal funding of the educational system. It is providing the most corrupt institution possible.

We need more choices for private education, and more of the money used for need based scholarships for kids to be able to attend schools their parents choose for their own betterment.

That's going to be part of the new Contract With America that I'm trying to promote.

I am behind it 100%.

There are plenty of good teachers out there who really wish to simply teach kids, but there is also this growing number of "progressively minded" educators who see themselves as social engineers of sorts, and see the parents as not only ignorant, but also as the enemy. We have experienced that too many times.

My hopes would be that with a better way, we could weed out those who only have their socialistic ideals in mind, not the childs future, and the parents wishes.

I have experienced firsthand that mentallity which clearly expresses the educational systems blatant disregard in acknowledging the parents authority, and treating the parents a outsiders. This was one of our main reasons for taking our kids out of the "system".

For those of us who remember when school was a time of learning and innocence, a time when kids gathered with a teacher who cared about them, were taught, enjoyed companionship with other children, and sometimes celebrated with them as well. Those days are gone in the public schools, and it has made me really sad that such an innocent time in a childs life is taken from them, by those with aspirations which are not wholly honorable.

Our government has gone from being the "watchman" in our educational system, to the overlord of it. This means the decisions have been taken out of the parents hands, and put into the hands of people who are not connected with the community or the families, they have little care for what their decisions will do.

I look forward to a day when Americas children can go to school, learn, enjoy each other, celebrate on Holidays, eat homemade cupcakes (the fundamental of being a kid in school!!) and not have someone attempting to brainwash them into a socialist mentallity. Just let them be kids, let them learn in innocence, nothing else.

Americanelizabeth - That is a nice dream. We homeschool also and my children will not every stop foot in these schools. I really cannot see a day when we go back to what many remember. The far left took control of the school system a long time ago and I really do not see them giving it up. The schools are their greatest tool. Raising generations of brainwashed, dumbed down masses.

More and more children are being pulled out of the schools year after year and I have to tell you my biggest fear is the day when the government tries to say that homeschooling is no longer allowed.

I agree that the school system has big problems. I moved to Miami from Canada and my daughter had nothing but trouble with school here. The idiots made her take the ESOL test which we both think was ridiculous as we were from the Toronto area. Then they fooled around with her classes putting her in chemistry which had a prerequisite of algebra which she never had. Then they had her repeating courses she already took. This was all due to them using the same credits for courses for every Canadian student who came here instead of each individual student. I am not the only who had that problem and spoke to many others who went through it. They have not graduated my daughter and want her to do one more year of high school even though she has completed all the required credits. She is now going to write her GED and go to college. Arguing with the school board is pointless.

Originally Posted by swatchick

Isn't it interesting that tolerance is not being applied to homosexuals. I personally am not gay but know some people who are and many of them are the nicest people you can meet.

If you delve much into the tolerance.org website you'll see that fighting homophobia is very much a part of their mission, as is addressing various "isms", including ageism, classism and even "looksism". Under their Youth Activism links on the Mix it Up website, you'll find mucho GLTY resources, along with a load of Marxist- leaning social justice mumbo jumbo.

Some of what SPLC espouses sounds innocent and noble enough, particularly to the likely majority who value tolerance and compassion toward others. What's so alarming about this group's all-consuming mission of fighting discrimination is their self-righteous and relentless efforts at indoctrination or reeducation. For those targeted, it becomes a proverbial slippery slope, whereby trying to prove one's "tolerance bonafides" becomes a form of tyranny. Tolerance and inclusiveness become a full-time job if practiced according to the their tenets. Sounds exhausting to me.

Frankly, I don't know what qualifies anyone to establish the acceptable parameters of "multicultural" conduct. It seems to be a self-appointed, inalienable "right" of certain groups, and I think it needs to be confronted and questioned. When their efforts involve egregious molding of children's thoughts and behavior through "educational" material, I think they bear very close monitoring, particularly if you have young ones.

I know dlm, I just keep thinking it would be nice for my kids to have that like I and my siblings did.

The problem we had with our 13 year old son in fifth grade is that he has been taught to be respectful, but to politely voice his opinion, or his opposition to something that is wrong, and being in a public school, he had a lot to say. Which his left-leaning teacher did not like, in the least, so she put him, and us, on her "you-know-what" list and made it her resolution to try to take us and our beliefs out.

As for the issue of tolerance, I have a lot of intolerances, I just have become wise enough to know how to get my opinion across, and do it with a smile!!

For those of us out there with politically un-correct intolerences, remember, "love the sinner, hate the sin!".

In some schools and with many teachers, they don't like people expressing their opinion in anyway what so ever. My daughter would get into trouble for doing so in high school. She had teachers that very opinionated who only saw things black or white. If she would introduced gray in the mix she would be in trouble. She had one African American teacher who was for her own people and Hispanics and bad mouthed whites. My daughter told her that every culture, race and religion have both good and bad people.
She also had a teacher who kept talking about Canada a lot in class but had some incorrect information. One day she decided to tell her about what it like living there as she had lived there for more than half her life. The teacher didn't want to listen until my daughter got angry and told her I lived there and I know what it is really like.