Thread: Racism, hate and stupidity at Hispanicbusiness.com

ALIPAC people, I thought I should share some stuff I found on the internet with you.

Here is a guy that thinks you are not allowed to think on your own. With over 240000 articles posted and over 4000 registered users William must be a pretty busy guy looking over all of your shoulders.

http://www(dot)hispanicbusiness(dot)com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8455&whichpage=5
tony_cheek
Forum Scholar

USA
2049 Posts Posted - 11/29/2006 : 09:58:59 AM

No, he's just not allowed to think.

Thinking is taboo, especially when you're an ALIPACker.

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Here is a young lady who thinks you are a cult! Dang, I missed the brainwashing class.

http://www(dot)hispanicbusiness(dot)com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8455&whichpage=6
iamme
Forum Contributor

476 Posts Posted - 11/29/2006 : 9:25:29 PM

Bob has provided sufficient evidence to prove you wrong. He is not the only one whom we have heard make this same complaint. We all know how Alipac works. It's like a cult with one leader and a bunch of brainwashed followers. When people refuse to be brainwashed by the leader, they are kicked off, and the brainwashed followers swoop out to follow where ever they find refuge, and discredited the banned member. It won't work here. Despite Bobs differing points of views, he is welcomed here. You lost a great ally in Bob, and because of your evil intentions, I won't doubt you will lose PERIOD! Good always wins! Remember that. You are not looking like the good guys right now, and it's too late to change that fact. Y'all remind me of what happened in Waco with David Koresh. I won't doubt for one moment another Waco will happen with Alipac.

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Here a poster calls another ?paleface?. Doesn?t that sound kind of?.racist??

http://www(dot)hispanicbusiness(dot)com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8455&whichpage=9
tony_cheek
Forum Scholar

USA
2049 Posts Posted - 11/30/2006 : 6:05:54 PM

Speak for yourself, paleface.

in point of fact, you've made his point.

Congratulations. Now a wider audience can see the ignorance of ALIPACkers.

(Okay, this was meant for 'The Guy Posing As The Truth' (hey, if Prince can get away with it...) It was posted after a few others came in.)

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This one thinks that 65% of you didn?t graduate from high school.

http://www(dot)hispanicbusiness(dot)com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8455&whichpage=9
LaVerdad
Forum Veteran

761 Posts Posted - 11/30/2006 : 6:55:30 PM

Posted - 11/30/2006 : 4:13:47 PM

There is no law that requires Spanish people to know English. English was only declared the "official" language. It is impossible to mandate English ONLY. Undocumented who wish to become CITIZENS must demonstrate proficiency, again that's not law but rather a requirement to becoming a citizen. A big difference. Where the heck did we get all these dime store lawyers? They can barely write let alone cite actual legal findings. All their allegations are merely wishful thinking. Sad, how uneducated they really are. I once read that over 65% of the anti illegal crowd are not even high school graduates. I don't know if those statistics are true but based on some of the posts from America First and The Truth I bet it is a close race!

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This one is really good. She believes you are putting crocodiles into the Rio Grande, condoning violence and are ?walking time bombs?.

http://www(dot)hispanicbusiness(dot)com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8455&whichpage=12
iamme
Forum Contributor

476 Posts Posted - 12/03/2006 : 09:18:09 AM

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Don't forget the girl from Columbia University when she was being interviewed after being visciously attacked by the MM for peacefully protesting. She did say that they are killing people in the desert and Jim is or was suing her for libel. Regardless of whether there is blood on their hands or not, one could just as well say they are murdering people because they are forcing them to take even more dangerous routes. Let's not forget that these people are shooting at the water left out there by Enrique M0r0nes so that these people don't die of thirst. I also wouldn't doubt for a moment that it was the MM who slipped that crocodile into the river. I have evidence that they commented on as much. You are right Tony, these people are only holding back because of the press coverage they are getting. It is my understanding that SOS, Alipackers and the Minutemen are almost all the same people. It wasn't too long ago that SOS had a member who suggested they just walk down the street and shoot every Mexican they saw, legal or not. It comes to tie with what Bob says, they blame every Hispanic regardless of whether they are American or Legal citizens. They are walking time bombs, and they need to be kept a close eye on. Next year when we get the much awaited immigration reform, these people plan to start a civil war. Everyone who is Hispanic has reasons to fear.

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Here she is again saying you are ?armed and dangerous and are anxious to kill?

http://www(dot)hispanicbusiness(dot)com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8455&whichpage=12
iamme
Forum Contributor

476 Posts Posted - 12/03/2006 : 09:23:00 AM

Actually, everyone who looks Hispanic has reasons to fear. There are other people, like Arabians, Italians, etc. who look Hispanic, even black people. Be prepared. These people are armed and dangerous and are anxious to kill.

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DD believes that ?many? Minutemen have criminal records. Apparently she also thinks that to qualify to be a Minuteman you have to be a cop wanna be.

http://www(dot)hispanicbusiness(dot)com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8455&whichpage=12
DD
Forum Scholar

USA
1576 Posts Posted - 12/04/2006 : 11:39:27 AM

I have a friend who is in law enforcement and will sometimes go and and respond to 'immigration calls'....he has communicated to me that several of MMP have criminal records. This is why many of them are not in law enforcement positions.....because of their 'criminal records'.

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Here is one who at least calls it the way it is.

http://www(dot)hispanicbusiness(dot)com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8455&whichpage=12
TomHiggins
Forum Regular

92 Posts Posted - 12/04/2006 : 4:17:33 PM

Bob about a year or two ago in Baldwin Park, California there was a demonstration held by the SOS who were protesting a monunment and mural on public property that they felt was racist against whites (and it was, but that's not the point). According to all news reports and cameras and photos, the SOS was met by hundreds of angry Latino kids and adults, many who wore ski masks to hide their identity, while they were pelting the SOS people with bottles and other debris. It was pretty sickening. The SOS people that you saw on tv were mostly middle to elederly white males and females and there were a handful of Latinos and African Anericans; but mostly grandfathers and grandmothers waving the American flag. On the other side of the street yelling profanity and throwing things were the "Latino protestors". Let me tell you it was pure thuggery. Yet there were a handful of Latinos in other states trying to make the SOS out to be thugs. EVERY single account that I read or saw on TV-- I reside in southern California--, clealry showed the Latino anti-protestors---they were there to protest tthe "originial protestors"- and they were nothing short of thugs. Barbaric pigs to be exact. It was embarrassing for ANY Latino with self-respect and dignity, that saw this melee. There were NO Latino political leaders anywhere to be found there that day. Those that were there briefly in the morning left when it became a fiasco of thug violence. My point is that even the great spin artists known as Hispanic "political community leaders" did not want to seen anywhere near this abhorrent barbaric behavior. Columbia University was very similar in what was reported and what I saw on newscasts.

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Ahhh.......long live the Race from a Moderator yet.

http://www(dot)hispanicbusiness(dot)com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8455&whichpage=14
Oscar Garcia
Moderator

USA
3455 Posts Posted - 12/05/2006 : 7:18:04 PM

You did not hit any nerve here, it was the other way around. You proved my point about going into a tirade. You are a xenophobe, plain and simple.

This one is just for you: VIVA LA RAZA C/S

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And another Viva La Raza

http://www(dot)hispanicbusiness(dot)com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8455&whichpage=14
tony_cheek
Forum Scholar

USA
2049 Posts Posted - 12/06/2006 : 08:52:28 AM

We're glad you're not on our side, too.

Oh, and for the folks back home:

VIVA LA RAZA!

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Here is another one that sees things the way they are and even calls some fellow posters racist.

http://www(dot)hispanicbusiness(dot)com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8455&whichpage=15
Sarduchi
Forum Contributor

227 Posts Posted - 12/06/2006 : 10:00:25 AM

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Cheekster are you and Oscar Garcia one and the same? If so I have an old Brown Beret cap I can send ya.....I havent used it in years! Thank God for that! Been too busy helping the youth in the Chicano community centers to STAY in SCHOOL, off of drugs and away from gangs and mensos with the Victocrat-US vs.-THEM mentality that you love to preach. It's a cancer that is killing the minds of the Chicano youth. These mensos are the same Victocrats that were telling our high school kids to walk out of school (during the last national protest for immigration) in light of the fact that Latino (Chicano) high school students rank dead last (or close to it) in terms of graduating and certainly in terms of college entrance.

Do you "two" still wonder why your Aztlanismo racist ideology is so vehemently rejected by the vast majority of Chicanos, especially Latinos in general? The only ones that embrace this instituional racism are you "two" and of course the crazed loons from the 1960's and early 70's that are still on the government dole that havent grown up........

Ya basta con tu racismo!!!

C/S

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Here is our buddy again that thinks you are closet mass murderers. To back up her point she quotes from axtlan.net. A group that by their own admission is a known racist hate group under investigation by federal authorities.
http://www.aztlan.net/homeland_security_incident.htm

http://www(dot)hispanicbusiness(dot)com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8455&whichpage=15
iamme
Forum Contributor

476 Posts Posted - 12/06/2006 : 11:05:58 AM

http://www.aztlan(dot)net/spencerarrested.htm
"Spencer was charged with three felonies that can result in a long prison term. Carol Capas, a spokeswoman for the Cochise County Sheriff's Department, said that Spencer was charged with grievous disorderly conduct with a lethal weapon, life endangerment and criminal property damage." (1 arrest)

http://www.aztlan(dot)net/minutemen_event_violence.htm
(1 arrest)

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Another racial slur.

http://www(dot)hispanicbusiness(dot)com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8455&whichpage=15
tony_cheek
Forum Scholar

USA
2049 Posts Posted - 12/06/2006 : 12:05:50 PM

Speak for yourself, paleface.

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http://www(dot)hispanicbusiness(dot)com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8455&whichpage=16
DD
Forum Scholar

USA
1576 Posts Posted - 12/06/2006 : 5:30:57 PM

For the RECORD:

I have condemned all racist behavior, and for you to sit there and say you do not associate with racists -- yet you are over at ALIPAC not condemning your "own" is beyond me. In fact, my political partner from the LR website was banned by a vote from the HB moderators. My "political partner" was staunchly against Mechista behavior and the whole Mexica Movement followers. It was unfortunate that the moderators of this forum voted him off....little do they know how politically active he is and he is a president of a LULAC branch on the east coast, and he was simply voicing his disdain for those who seem brainwashed by those who have an appreciation for the "Aztlan" movement.

I just wanted to state this for the record so that you can copy this screen and give this specific information to your fellow buddies at ALIPAC.

Good bye.


This is DD?s ?political partner? on another site suggesting a revolution in athread he started called ?Our responsability to the Movement?. I think he was banned here for posting pro-illegal immigrant stuff. To give credit to the other forums, he is apparently not well liked there also. He also needs some spelling lessons.
http://www.soychicano(dot)com/forums/showthread.php?t=9578

04-12-2005

Ceyaotl
Gunner Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 801

Originally Posted by LatinKing
Can you have a revolution without guns?

Simon carnalito, eso es!

Education, Serving in the military, building capital as a small buisness owner, sending our people to government, helping in the community, being a good example to the chavalitos and standing up when we are mistreated.These are all good places to fight a revolution from. These are all things that can get us to our goals of equality.

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This is another interesting thread I found.

ALIPAC Boycotting Miller?
http://www(dot)hispanicbusiness(dot)com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8687

First they joke about the boycott. Apparently they haven?t seen that there are two web sites dedicated to this boycott. http://www.boycottmiller.com/ and http://www.millerboycott.com/ and they apparently didn?t notice that over 100 groups support the boycott http://www.millerboycott.com/coalition/index.asp and the over 14,000 signatures on the petition http://www.millerboycott.com/petition/index.asp . We all know of the issues of the multiple DUI offenses and DUI related deaths caused by illegal aliens. But what really caught my eye was most of the rest of the post concerned binge drinking!

Welcome to Alipac Handbanana! I think.

Doesn't look like you are bringing us good tiding of great joy but something more like a Grinching.

I recognize a former member or two. Who is that? Isn't that our old friend Double D and her minion Ceyaotl. Just the mention of my name pulls his string. He left here with some really nasty parting words, for all of us good people at Alipac. No wonder we are being blasted over yander. Thought they were about Hispanic business not Alipac's business.

Dixie

Just glanced over this post. Don't see any reason to read it word for word.

Thanks for the welcome.

I don't know about your double D person. I must have missed that one. I have seen that name Ceyaotl a few times and I think he is just a jerk. But that is my opinion. I've been watching these groups for a while. I think is so sad that they try to label this group as racist. Illegal immigrants need to go no matter what race they are from. Actually, race doesen't really matter. It doesn't matter what race. If they are in the US illegally they are criminals right?

Have you all seen this group?

http://www.mexica-movement.org/



I think that is just horrible.

Handbanana,

Your absolutely right. Sounds like you are going to fit in here nicely. We are not an exclusive group over here and we welcome people of all races and from many countries. Our membership is diverse. Some of our members are even immigrants and people in the process of obtainting their citizenship the legal way.

If you visit with us for a while, you will find that we are not racist. We just want our laws upheld and enforced. One of our main issues is respect the rule of law, which illegal immigrants do not.

What a terrible thing to say about the MM and SOS. I see similar statments in the comments you posted from their site. They really have something against the MM and SOS. Funny, that both orginizations have memebers from all races within their orginization just like we do.

Maybe they are confused about who should be wearing those hoods.

Dixie

WELCOME HAND!

Guess those people over there sure proved how racist they really are.

Love it when these idiots open their mouths.

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Handbanana,

That website is terrible! They are really hung up on calling Americans racist, yet all over their site it says "my people". Looks more like they have segregated themselves from any other raceses. Funny how they mention invaders from Europe and Spain but they failed to mention Africa and Asia. They really seem to have a problem with people from dominantly Caucasian origins. That screams racism to me.

Dixie

Looks like Hispanicbusiness.com has been radicalized like Aztlan.net, MECHA, the Mexica Movement, and all those other "I hate America" groups.

We do not put up with racism like that here at ALIPAC.

Sometimes I think they scream racism at other people so much because of their own racism. I guess they feel that if they make a big point of trying to label others racist they can distract from their overt racism.

I do appreciate the fact there are some real Americans over there correcting their lies.

Each point they try to make comes up empty when subjected to the slightest scrutiny.

That kind of false and unsubstantiated content would not make the grade here at ALIPAC. That kind of racism and hate on their boards would be stopped quickly here.

Thanks for posting Handbanana.

W

Why are both websites primarily English?