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    Repeal and Replace, the elephant in the room: our free cheese faction

    If one does a little research regarding repeal and replacement of Obamacare, they will find countless articles asserting most Americans prefer Obamacare, e.g., see: Americans Prefer Obamacare

    May 18th, 2017

    ”Most Americans prefer the Democratic version of a health-care law to the Republican measure that's now under consideration in the Senate.

    Fifty-three percent of Americans say they favor the Affordable Care Act, passed by Democrats under President Barack Obama, to the GOP's American Health-Care Act, passed recently by the GOP-controlled House. Only 27 percent prefer the Republican bill over the Democratic system, according to the latest survey by Public Policy Polling, a Democrat-oriented firm. This is similar to the findings of other recent polls.”

    The big problem with these polls is, when these polls are taken, they include the opinions of lazy able bodied ticks and fleas who won’t work enough hours to pay for their own health-care needs who are receiving subsidized health-care under Obamacare, and also includes the opinions of foreigners who have invaded America’s borders and are likewise receiving subsidized health-care which is paid for by tax-paying American citizens in addition to receiving other tax-payer finance “benefits”.

    Is there any wonder why such a “poll” would end in a majority supporting a democrat style “free-cheese” health-care reform Bill? The fact is, our country’s cheese-eating faction is now at about 50 percent of the nation’s population, and it includes millions upon millions of lazy able bodied blood suckers who are too lazy to work enough hours to pay for their own economic needs. And this is the elephant in the room which our snowflake Republicans are unwilling to remove from our federal government’s free-cheese wagon. Snowflake Republicans in Congress are far more comfortable with raising taxes from hard working American citizens, so they can use such money to buy the votes of our nation’s free-cheese faction.

    I want to see some statistics in which no one is polled who is having their health-insurance and/or health-care subsidized by tax payers. I suspect that the vast majority of American citizens who had privately funded health insurance before Obamacare came along, if polled today, would want to go back to what they had, and keep the federal government’s nose out of their health-care needs and choices. But when you mix the millions upon millions of U.S. residents into a poll who are having their health-care paid for by tax-payers, of course you are going to get very different numbers.

    How about referencing a poll in which the tax-payer, and only the tax-payer ___ a poll excluding tax-getters ___ is represented?


    Are we really ok with 45 percent of our nation’s population who pay no taxes on incomes being allowed to vote for representatives who spend federal revenue which the remaining 55 percent of our nation’s hard working and productive population has contributed into our federal treasury via taxes on incomes when our Constitution requires “Representatives and direct taxes Shall be apportioned among the Several States”?
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    Why won't Repub. Senators serve the interests of tax payers instead of tax getters?


    I see our snowflake Republicans in the Senate cannot put their foot down and refuse to finance health-care for millions upon millions of able bodied individuals who won’t work enough hours to pay for their own health-care needs, and many more millions who are foreigners who likewise receive subsidized health-care which is paid for by hard working tax-paying American citizens.

    When will our Republicans in Congress start protecting the interests of hard working American citizens, and cut the free cheese given to able bodied blood suckers who are too lazy to work for their own economic needs?

    Have Republican members in Congress forgotten the United States government was created with a fundamental purpose which is eloquently stated as follows?

    "Under a just and equal Government, every individual is entitled to protection in the enjoyment of the whole product of his labor, except such portion of it as is necessary to enable Government to protect the rest; this is given only in consideration of the protection offered. In every bounty, exclusive right, or monopoly, Government violates the stipulation on her part; for, by such a regulation, the product of one man's labor is transferred to the use and enjoyment of another. The exercise of such a right on the part of Government can be justified on no other principle, than that the whole product of the labor or every individual is the real property of Government, and may be distributed among the several parts of the community by government discretion; such a supposition would directly involve the idea, that every individual in the community is merely a slave and bondsman to Government, who, although he may labor, is not to expect protection in the product of his labor. An authority given to any Government to exercise such a principle, would lead to a complete system of tyranny." ___ See Representative Giles, speaking before Congress February 3rd, 1792

    Why are Republicans in the Senate determined to keep a system afloat based upon robbery, theft and tyranny!


    "To lay with one hand the power of the government on the property of the citizen and with the other to bestow upon favored individuals, to aid private enterprises and build up private fortunes is none the less a robbery because it is done under forms of law and called taxation." ____ Savings and Loan Association v. Topeka,(1875).
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    Tax payers vs tax getters, the cause of our present miseries

    I would like to see a “poll” in which only those who pay federal income tax, i.e., a poll in which the tax payer and only the tax payer is represented. Would they prefer our federal government adhereing to our federal Constitution and limiting its taxing and spending to finance the list which appears beneath Article 1, Section 8, Clause 1?

    The defined and limited powers listed beneath Article 1, Section 8. Clause 1, for which Congress is authorized to lay and collect taxes, is as follows:

    To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

    To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

    To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

    To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

    To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

    To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

    To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

    To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

    To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

    To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

    To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

    To provide and maintain a Navy;

    To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

    To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

    To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

    To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;--And

    To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

    The list does not include providing for the health-care needs of the people within the various United States.


    "To lay with one hand the power of the government on the property of the citizen [a working person’s earned wage] and with the other to bestow upon favored individuals, [to finance their health-care needs] to aid private enterprises and build up private fortunes is none the less a robbery because it is done under forms of law and called taxation."____ Savings and Loan Association v.Topeka,(1875).

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