Thread: Republicans to Teaparty: SORRY, WE WILL LOOSE THIS YEAR!

Originally Posted by roundabout

Most elections are local even if they gather much attention. Only one election is national.

If the Tea Party ever emerges with national leadership, that will be it's demise. Where there is one leader, or a leadership, there is a target to go after. If it remains fragmented to the local or regional levels,many targets are harder to kill. Loose and moving with a general agenda to change the corupt system would remain strong and viable. JMO

Good point there roundabout! Good sense. Strength in numbers spread out as opposed to packed in.

If the GOP continues to promote the same ole, same ole democratic candidates like Lindsey Graham; heck yeah they will lose.

There are elections all over the country where the GOP is funding the typical bought off neocons over serious, untainted and honest liberty loving candidates. The Demo's pretty much know the elections will be given to them.

The election last November in the 23rd district in NY pretty much proved to me as it should have to the rest of the country that the Republicans just don't get it and probably never will. They endorsed a RINO who had ties to ACORN and when she bowed out she turned around and endorsed the DEM and the Republicans were left with their tails between their legs and played for the fools that they are. They are the stupid party and their stupidity has been a dangerous enabler for the DEMS to easily take over and stay in power despite their ineptitude.

They will never win another major election as long as they continue down this path of self mutilation.

What happens when the public moves from viewing the government as a central point of reference to a point which focuses on the more local level? If the local level garners more attention and the big kid recieves less attention, then power can shift from the behemoth to the more local.

Deny power by shifting focus, demand locally and castrate the bull.

If the Republicans are to change then the public will have demand specific demands. Time to dismantle the behemoth, do not ask for solutions that need to be written, demand that the written is dismantled.

Less control of schools from the federal level, less control of the environment from the federal level. Transfer power back to the states and the feds can go back to a part time job!

What are the Republicans at the federal level willing to tear apart and give back to the states? Otherwise we will be working on coming full circle and will find ourselves in this same viscous circle in the near future.

Originally Posted by Reciprocity

I have my doubts about the Tea Party, not just because of Dick Armey but because it is unorganized and fragmented with alot of infighting going on. If they can organize fast enough then maybe, but i don't see that happening.

I share similar doubts. I do not care for Dick Armey and feel he is part of the problem. I also feel like many of those who are organizing TEA parties are like the ones here in Houston that are only out for self gains.

The Democratic party consists of:
Union members, Government workers, poor people who want government benefits, the ethnic lobby (blacks, and Hispanics),immigrants, Acedemia, College students. urban dwellers.


The Republican party consists of:
People who are not listed above. Are mostly rural or suburban, white ,christan, and middle class.

I am sorry to say that I think the demographics on the Republican side is decreasing. If this was the 18th, 19th or 20th Century the power would be solidly on the Republican side. Please correct this list if you think it needs changes or I missed some major group on either side.

I would like to personally thank all of the crazy right wingers that completely destroyed the LIBERTARIAN Tea Party. You have successfully taken a legitimate protest, and turned into a Glenn Beck money making scheme. Teabaggers are officially the laughing stock of normal minded people. I wanted a government that was held responsible for their actions, but instead the far right-wingers took it over for their own "let's elect republicans" purposes, even though republicans have failed them just as much as democrats.

I wish some people would stop mixing their agenda with ours. We are FOR gay marriage, FOR drug legalization, FOR pro choice, yet people come along and hijack the whole thing, then make us look stupid because people think that the people that STARTED the movement agrees with viewpoints that discriminate against other people. That is NOT what we are about!! Please separate from us!! We want illegal immigration gone, but it doesn't help when you have birthers, etc on our side. It's like having the KKK on the side of illegal immigration.

I do recommend that you yell at the Dick Armeys of the world, as the moneybags did hijack a grassroots movement for their own purposes, and so many talking heads do their best to laugh at us simple American people who need leaders to tell us what to believe.
Pro-illegal Republicans look at the bottom line of their biggest contributors and pro-illegal Democrats are looking for amnesty for votes. Both parties have been a disappointment, but now we have to look at the candidates that object to CIR and the lack of enforcement. Anyone from any party who takes a stand against the further erosion of this country's sovereignty and espouses enforcement of existing immigration laws without giving consideration to pro-illegal groups will have my vote. Point being, we should never consider changing any of our laws for the benefit of those that should not be here in the first place.

Originally Posted by DarthIllegal

I would like to personally thank all of the crazy right wingers that completely destroyed the LIBERTARIAN Tea Party. You have successfully taken a legitimate protest, and turned into a Glenn Beck money making scheme.

Didn't Glenn Beck help to get almost 1 million at the 9-12 DC protest? Plus he was already making tons of money before the Tea Parties started.

I wish some people would stop mixing their agenda with ours. We are FOR gay marriage, FOR drug legalization, FOR pro choice,

Actually, don't you want to matters to be decided by individual states or private groups? At least Ron Paul does.

Originally Posted by roundabout

Most elections are local even if they gather much attention. Only one election is national.

If the Tea Party ever emerges with national leadership, that will be it's demise. Where there is one leader, or a leadership, there is a target to go after. If it remains fragmented to the local or regional levels,many targets are harder to kill. Loose and moving with a general agenda to change the corupt system would remain strong and viable. JMO

You are spot on roundabout. Power is greatest when it is spread around. We should learn this lesson from ACORN.