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    i have a list of members

    I have a list of members, Ron Paul nor Mitt Romney are on the list. Neither is Huckabee but he's a new member. Mccain is definately on the list, Newt, bill clinton, condeleeza rice, colin powell, I can't remember them all but Paul and Romney are not on the list. They should team up..Maybe that would put mccain to rest on it. I believe mitt and ron will be the only two left standing anyway period. All the others are flat broke.

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    I think it is important to look at the context of the speech completely to ensure what he is saying. And what he is saying is in tune with the agenda of the CFR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan
    Quote Originally Posted by Delta7757
    William has told everyone to stop with these attacks on Ron Paul or Romney, numerous times. These are the only 2 candidates left, that this site approves. That we should be battling the dems, Giuliani, McCain and Huckabee. Enough is enough.
    Yeah
    Let's go after HillBilly. That's short for Hillary and Bill Clinton.

    Not to be confused with Hickabilly.
    I have a list of members, Ron Paul nor Mitt Romney are on the list. Neither is Huckabee but he's a new member. Mccain is definitely on the list, Newt, bill clinton, condeleeza rice, colin powell, I can't remember them all but Paul and Romney are not on the list. They should team up..Maybe that would put mccain to rest on it. I believe mitt and ron will be the only two left standing anyway period. All the others are flat broke.

    This should be the end of this discussion. Everyone needs to stop trying to defeat the purpose of this site. Once again it can't be done over night and you don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usanevada
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    Johnathan,
    The problem is that there are no other options. The NAU is officially supposed to take over in 2010. That makes this election the last free election this country will have till a revolution frees us again. You can no longer choose the lesser of two evils. Our backs are against the wall and there is nowhere left to turn except fight or surrender. If a CFR member is elected, the country is finished. And, as far as the revolution you mentioned, I had already told William that the election would be rigged and ron paul revolution woul be the only way to stop them.
    Then do not elect a CFR member

    No proof has ever been posted here that Romney or Paul are
    members

    You have 2 choices
    But one of them holds almost every CFR position. Make your decision on that.

    As for CFR official list I think 97 was the last time they made their list official, so every year since then it has been a guessing game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delta7757
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan
    Quote Originally Posted by Delta7757
    William has told everyone to stop with these attacks on Ron Paul or Romney, numerous times. These are the only 2 candidates left, that this site approves. That we should be battling the dems, Giuliani, McCain and Huckabee. Enough is enough.
    Yeah
    Let's go after HillBilly. That's short for Hillary and Bill Clinton.

    Not to be confused with Hickabilly.
    I have a list of members, Ron Paul nor Mitt Romney are on the list. Neither is Huckabee but he's a new member. Mccain is definitely on the list, Newt, bill clinton, condeleeza rice, colin powell, I can't remember them all but Paul and Romney are not on the list. They should team up..Maybe that would put mccain to rest on it. I believe mitt and ron will be the only two left standing anyway period. All the others are flat broke.

    This should be the end of this discussion. Everyone needs to stop trying to defeat the purpose of this site. Once again it can't be done over night and you don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.
    Again, Paul and Romney are opposites they will never work together. remember Romney is a mainstream republican, pro war, pro nafta, pro increased government spending etc.

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    I think the reason why RP is running is because he knows that our democracy is coming to a halt and he feels he's the only one who can stop it. I have to agree. Although Mitt isn't a CFR member, he has spoke of giving amnesty in the past and free trade would not be any different under him.

    The best thing right now is to pose the question(s) to Mitt so that later we can hold his feet to the fire if need be.

    1) Do you, or will you support the SPP Agreement, or the formation of a north American union?

    2) Will you protect states rights and the Bill of Rights, as outlined in the Constitution from any foreign entities such as the United Nations as well as the Constitution itself?

    3) Will you seek legalization for ANY illegal aliens, of which is defined as one who has entered without a passport or any LEGAL means to gain access into this country?

    4) Will you protect and secure our national soverignty as well as our borders, no matter to what extent actions must be executed?


    If he answers 'NO' to any of these questions, then Ron Paul is your guy. Senator Sessions of Alabama has already outlined 15 questions for all of the candidates to reply to, but as I stated in a previous post, if they aviod any of these questions, they are lying to you and have something to hide and are not fit to become President. The President serves the public and not the other way around. Feel free to add to this list.

    These questions, or better yet, Senator Sessions questions should be given a deadline to be answered by all candidates, PERIOD!

    A DATE BEFORE THE NOMINATIONS SHOULD BE SET!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan
    In spite of this speech to the CFR, I think Romney is still the best choice for President. I think Romney is simply going along with the Bush "War on Terror" baggage so he will not alienate a large number of the Republican base that supports Bush in this area. The speech seems to be "off the shelf" doctrine and is full of pablum and platitudes that could have been a rewrite of a Condoleezza speech.

    This shows Romney is making a calculated discussion not to oppose Bush foreign policy at this time. Remember that such rhetoric often changes dramatically after the primaries are over and the contest becomes the national election.
    OMG, so instead of taking the man at his word (what he wrote) you think he is the best choice because of you have an unsupported hunch that he is lying so as to be accepted by the GOP voters? Is that what you just said? So you are not supporting him based on his public views, but what you hope are his real views? That is insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justme
    Yep … it’s like I said … his first calling is internationalism. He is very disingenuous. He always refuses to talk about his direction for the country other than to endorse Bush and ALL his policies…!
    I think the Socialist threat is far more dangerous than the Jihadist threat.
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