Thread: Ron Paul Will Re-Legalize the Constitution

Originally Posted by SOSADFORUS

You would all do better to start some possitive threads on Hunter if that is who you are supporting and start getting some information out on him...,

http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-95523.html

Spend some time defending his war, I believe that is what is holding him back, it can't be immigration because him record is to perfect for that.

I do NOT support the war. You can see my position on the war, and why I choose to still back Duncan detailed in the link above.

Originally Posted by BearFlagRepublic

Originally Posted by SOSADFORUS

You would all do better to start some possitive threads on Hunter if that is who you are supporting and start getting some information out on him...,

http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-95523.html

Spend some time defending his war, I believe that is what is holding him back, it can't be immigration because him record is to perfect for that.

I do NOT support the war. You can see my position on the war, and why I choose to still back Duncan detailed in the link above.

Sorry "Bear" must of gotten you mixed up with "MW" I believe he does.

But doesn't seem like there is much information being posted about Hunter so i think it would benifit him if his supporters started posting about him!!

[quote=Once_A_Democrat]

Originally Posted by sturmruger

Originally Posted by "Once_A_Democrat":z5tbia3z

Originally Posted by Hapexamendios

Once a Democrat, might as well of stayed a democrat because you know nothing of trade. .

True Free Trade in any form will cause job lost to the US
only FAIR trade will protect the jobs, if you doing know this you know nothing about trade.

Google Free Trade and Job lost

Ron Paul has stated in his recent interviews that he is for Constitutional tariffs to fund a strong Military!

I have heard him say no tariffs many times - True Free Trade is not tariffs and that's what he has alway said. He doing the Mitt thing - flipfloping around[/quote:z5tbia3z]

You must be hallucinating. RP is for fair trade and that means making the playing field level. The Chinese make 36 cents an hour. The way to level the field is to apply a tariff that will bring the cost of the product up to American wage levels.That is fair trade and that is what Ron Paul advocates.

Ron Paul picks up Minutemen endorsements

Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul today picked up endorsements from several individual leaders of the Iowa Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, an anti-illegal immigration group.

Ron Duncan, the deputy director of the group's Iowa chapter, and Mark Land, Taylor County Minuteman leader, each offered the Texas congressman their personal endorsements.

Craig Halverson, director of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps Iowa chapter, said the group as a whole will not officially endorse a candidate, but its members are free to back candidates as private citizens.

"As a citizen, I kind of lean towards Ron Paul, but I don't really want to jump out there too strongly because of my position," Halverson said.

Halverson added the bulk of another Iowa grassroots group, Citizens for Tom Tancredo, has also backed Paul.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/p ... 1/SPORTS01

Shortly before Tancredo's withdrawal annoucement

"I'm shocked," Halverson said. "All the work and all the time we put in. We're shocked. We thought he was going to go all the way."

Halverson said he would wait for the official word, "then I'm going to jump on the bandwagon of Ron Paul."

http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/

Originally Posted by SOSADFORUS

Originally Posted by BearFlagRepublic

Originally Posted by SOSADFORUS

You would all do better to start some possitive threads on Hunter if that is who you are supporting and start getting some information out on him...,

http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-95523.html

Spend some time defending his war, I believe that is what is holding him back, it can't be immigration because him record is to perfect for that.

I do NOT support the war. You can see my position on the war, and why I choose to still back Duncan detailed in the link above.

Sorry "Bear" must of gotten you mixed up with "MW" I believe he does.

But doesn't seem like there is much information being posted about Hunter so i think it would benifit him if his supporters started posting about him!!

"BearFlag" went and read you post about your stance on the war... glad you are against that as it is bankrupting our country!! Thanks for the link!!

Originally Posted by johannah

Originally Posted by Once_A_Democrat

I have heard him say no tariffs many times - True Free Trade is not tariffs and that's what he has alway said. He doing the Mitt thing - flipfloping around

You must be hallucinating. RP is for fair trade and that means making the playing field level. The Chinese make 36 cents an hour. The way to level the field is to apply a tariff that will bring the cost of the product up to American wage levels.That is fair trade and that is what Ron Paul advocates.

Free trade is BAD for America because it destroys our industries and sends our jobs overseas. I sure hope that Ron Paul isn't for free trade since he's almost perfect in all the other areas.

Originally Posted by socal

Originally Posted by johannah

Originally Posted by Once_A_Democrat

I have heard him say no tariffs many times - True Free Trade is not tariffs and that's what he has alway said. He doing the Mitt thing - flipfloping around

You must be hallucinating. RP is for fair trade and that means making the playing field level. The Chinese make 36 cents an hour. The way to level the field is to apply a tariff that will bring the cost of the product up to American wage levels.That is fair trade and that is what Ron Paul advocates.

Free trade is BAD for America because it destroys our industries and sends our jobs overseas. I sure hope that Ron Paul isn't for free trade since he's almost perfect in all the other areas.

In his recent interviews he has mentioned that tariffs are Constitutional therefore with tariffs the trade would have to be fair or to our advantage.

Socal wrote:

Free trade is BAD for America because it destroys our industries and sends our jobs overseas. I sure hope that Ron Paul isn't for free trade since he's almost perfect in all the other areas.

Personally, I don't think he's "almost perfect" in all other areas, however, will leave that for another time.

Yes, Ron Paul has described himself as a "true" free trader. The Cato Institute also considers him a free trader. Here are the candidates and their scores Cato has on record.

John McCain: Rated 100% by CATO, indicating a pro-free trade voting record.

Ron Paul: Rated 76% by CATO, indicating a pro-free trade voting record.

Tom Tancredo: Rated 61% by CATO, indicating a mixed record on trade issues.

Joe Biden: Rated 42% by CATO, indicating a mixed record on trade issues.

Dennis Kucinich: Rated 39% by CATO, indicating a mixed record on trade issues.

Duncan Hunter: Rated 24% by CATO, indicating a pro-fair trade voting record.

Hillary Clinton: Rated 17% by CATO, indicating a pro-fair trade voting record.

Chris Dodd: Rated 17% by CATO, indicating a pro-fair trade voting record.

John Edwards: Rated 17% by CATO, indicating a pro-fair trade voting record.

The mission of the Cato Institute Center for Trade Policy Studies is to increase public understanding of the benefits of free trade and the costs of protectionism.

The Cato Trade Center focuses not only on U.S. protectionism, but also on trade barriers around the world. Cato scholars examine how the negotiation of multilateral, regional, and bilateral trade agreements can reduce trade barriers and provide institutional support for open markets. Not all trade agreements, however, lead to genuine liberalization. In this regard, Trade Center studies scrutinize whether purportedly market-opening accords actually seek to dictate marketplace results, or increase bureaucratic interference in the economy as a condition of market access.

Studies by Cato Trade Center scholars show that the United States is most effective in encouraging open markets abroad when it leads by example. The relative openness and consequent strength of the U.S. economy already lend powerful support to the worldwide trend toward embracing open markets. Consistent adherence by the United States to free trade principles would give this trend even greater momentum. Thus, Cato scholars have found that unilateral liberalization supports rather than undermines productive trade negotiations.

Scholars at the Cato Trade Center aim at nothing less than changing the terms of the trade policy debate: away from the current mercantilist preoccupation with trade balances, and toward a recognition that open markets are their own reward.

The following ratings are based on the votes the organization considered most important; the numbers reflect the percentage of time the representative voted the organization's preferred position.

The Cato Institute supports free trade and open markets (globalization). Duncan Hunter was the only Republican candidate to score as a pro-fair trader with a score of 24%. This is a situation where the lower score is better for most of us.

Duncan Hunter supports fair trade (or mirror trade if you will). He has come out repeatedly saying China is cheating on trade and that he would junk our trade deal with them. Hunter is the leader in railing against our trade agreements with China. Additionally, he voted against NAFTA, CAFTA, and the WTO.

Yes socal, Duncan is your candidate if fair trade is important to you. As MW mentioned, Paul is a self-described free trader. Duncan is the one who advocates increased tariffs, if our trading partners do not drop there own. He calls it a "mirror trade policy." If China continues to put up a 25% tariff on our goods, we will respond with a 25% tariff on theirs. Paul has a lot of bad things to say about tariffs. Go check out his web-site.

SOSADFORUS wrote:

Sorry "Bear" must of gotten you mixed up with "MW" I believe he does.

I'm not sure it's fair to say I support the war. However, it would be accurate to say I don't support running up the white flag of surrender as we're tucking our tail between our legs in defeat. All recent reports indicate the so-called surge is working. IMO, it would be senseless, and a great disservice to our men and women who have died in Iraq, to cut & run at this point. I say let's finish standing up the Iraq Army before we withdrawal. We are faced with two choices; to cut and run and leave Iraq in shambles, or to give democracy a chance. It is only through freedom and democracy that we can achieve peace in the Middle East.