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    Should Voters Be Required to Understand English?

    March 16, 2018
    By Michael Bargo, Jr.

    After the Civil War, four million people of African-American descent became free residents of the U.S. Since they were born in the U.S., they were citizens and were allowed to vote in local, state, and federal elections.

    But those who had owned slaves did not want former slaves to rise up against them and become members of Congress and officials in statehouses. And since slaves had been systematically denied the opportunity to read and write, they were given improper, unconstitutional tests at the polling place. For example, they may have been required to recite, word for word, the Gettysburg Address. And oftentimes white voters did not have to pass the tests that were given to blacks.

    This practice persisted, unchallenged, for one hundred years, until the Voting Rights Act of 1965 abolished what the Act called "tests and devices" for denying people the right to vote, since these tests and devices were almost always based on racial distinctions. Southern states simply did not want blacks to vote.

    The 1965 Voting Rights Act authorized Congress to establish rules for enforcing the Act. Specifically, a set of rules and guidelines were established that allowed the federal government to step in and find those states and counties in the U.S. that had established "tests and devices" such as literacy tests and other gimmicks. At the time, all of these procedural roadblocks were based on race.

    The Voting Rights Act of 1965 was renewed several times. By 2013, however, studies by the Census Bureau and other agencies had determined that black voters had achieved equality in the polling place to whites: equal proportions of both were now registered as voters. So the purpose of the Voting Rights Act -- to end racial discrimination through the gimmicks of "tests and devices" -- had been achieved, and in 2013 it was discontinued. A Supreme Court ruling determined that the Act was no long needed.

    But now times have changed, and those cities which call themselves sanctuaries for illegal immigration are engaged in a new vote fraud scheme: to enable "noncitizens" to vote. It's a combination of two things: cheating immigration rules and cheating citizenship rules in order to establish new methods of vote fraud. This strategy is the polar opposite of the post-Civil War strategy: the methods of vote suppression have now become methods of vote enabling. Persons who are not citizens are now being allowed and fraudulently authorized to go to polling places and vote, violating all Federal election laws. Here's how it came about.

    After losing the 2016 presidential election, Democrats were more determined than ever to regain the electoral strength rooted in their big metropolitan areas. They made their big metropolitan areas into sanctuaries for one reason: all the big cities have been controlled by the Democratic National Machine, and all have been losing population since 1950. In order to restore the numbers of voters they needed to win state and national elections, they needed more people.

    Whether those people are legal voters or not doesn't matter. Chicago, long famous as the vote fraud capital of the United States, has developed new ways for noncitizens to vote. While in the past they practiced such methods as having dead people vote from cemeteries multiple times and having people use taverns and vacant lots as addresses, their new method of stuffing the ballot box in their favor is to enable noncitizen to vote. In fact, Barack Obama started his political career by teaching ACORN seminars to communities on how to register people to vote.

    In the past fifteen years, sanctuary states have engaged in a strategy of allowing noncitizen suffrage by inventing/allowing new forms of voter identification. They invented new IDs, and since they run the polling places, told the polling places to accept the new forms of IDs. The first major one was the "matricula consular" card, use of which rapidly spread throughout the U.S. in 2002. In fact, Cook County, where Chicago is located, officially stated that it would accept the matricula consular as a valid form of ID -- and "valid" in Democrat Machine terms means "vote enabling."

    Matricula consular cards are issued by foreign embassies located in the big cities to persons from their countries for use while they are in the U.S. These are not citizenship validation cards; they have nothing to do with U.S. citizenship. But since Cook County vouched for them and declared them valid, they can be used for voting in elections.

    Recently Chicago went a step further and issued a new ID called the "CityKey." It was applauded as a way for residents to expand their access to the city. But behind closed doors the city circulated a letter to city aldermen stating that the ID can be used to vote. Since the CityKey has no foundation in INS Naturalization procedures, it is completely fraudulent and illegal. This is not the first "test and device" Illinois has invented to enable illegal immigrant noncitizen to vote. A few years ago, Illinois created the temporary driver's license program, designed to enable illegal immigrants to vote. This was also done in over 30 other states. And since the Democratic-run sanctuary states are the most populous states, this scheme has the scope to enable them to win national elections.

    The federal agency U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services requires that someone who wants to become a naturalized citizen "must be over 18 yrs of age, have resided in the U.S. as a permanent green card resident for at least five years," and be able to "read, write and speak English."

    One may then reasonably ask why polling places are now required to have voting instructions and ballots in many foreign languages. If it's a necessary requirement of naturalized citizenship to be able to read, write, and speak English, then why are Democratic-run sanctuary states bypassing this requirement and printing voter registration forms and ballots in foreign languages? After all, naturalized citizens must be able to speak, read, and write English, and no foreign-born person can vote unless he takes the time to apply for naturalization.

    So in order to combat and delegitimize these fake IDs that Chicago and other big cities are using to promote noncitizen voting, the nation may have to restore the literacy test to the polling place. Since all naturalized citizens must be able to speak, read and write English, it follows that any foreign-born person who can vote in national elections must be able to speak English.

    The Democratic Party, which once used a plethora of "tests and devices" in order to prevent blacks from voting, is now using a new set of "tests and devices" including IDs and foreign language ballots and voter registration forms to enable noncitizen suffrage. This is illegal and unconstitutional. I am writing a federal lawsuit to sue Chicago for these noncitizen suffrage enabling actions.
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    Should Voters Be Required to Understand English?

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    So should Driver's!!!

    If they do not speak, read and write English...NO Driver's License!

    And put everything in English!
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    Should a person speak English to vote in a Federal election? - It is the law.

    A person must be a legal U.S. citizen, not just a green card holder, to vote in Federal elections. The ability to read and write English is STILL a requirement for citizenship.

    Naturalization Eligibility Requirements

    Before an individual applies for naturalization, he or she must meet a few requirements. Depending on the individual’s situation, there are different requirements that may apply. General requirements for naturalization are below.

    • Be at least 18 years old at the time of filing Form N-400, Application for Naturalization.
    • Be a permanent resident (have a “Green Card”) for at least 5 years.
    • Show that you have lived for at least 3 months in the state or USCIS district where you apply.
    • Demonstrate continuous residence in the United States for at least 5 years immediately preceding the date of filing Form N-400.
    • Show that you have been physically present in the United States for at least 30 months out of the 5 years immediately preceding the date of filing Form N-400.
    • Be able to read, write, and speak basic English.
    • Have a basic understanding of U.S. history and government (civics).
    • Be a person of good moral character.
    • Demonstrate an attachment to the principles and ideals of the U.S. Constitution.

    Naturalization Test

    During the naturalization interview, a USCIS Officer will ask questions about an applicant's Form N-400, Application for Naturalization, and background. An applicant will also take an English and civics test unless he or she qualifies for an exemption or waiver. The English test has three components: reading, writing, and speaking. The civics test covers important U.S. history and government topics. See below to learn more about the test and the free study tools available to help your students prepare.
    Speaking Test
    An applicant's ability to speak English will be determined by a USCIS Officer during the eligibility interview on Form N-400, Application for Naturalization.

    Reading Test
    An applicant must read aloud one out of three sentences correctly to demonstrate an ability to read in English. The Reading Test Vocabulary List (PDF, 185 KB) will help your students study for the English reading portion of the naturalization test. The content focuses on civics and history topics.

    Writing Test
    An applicant must write one out of three sentences correctly to demonstrate an ability to write in English. The Writing Test Vocabulary List (PDF, 181 KB) will help your students study for the English writing portion of the naturalization test. The content focuses on civics and history topics.

    Civics Test
    There are 100 civics questions on the naturalization test (PDF, 295 KB). During an applicant's naturalization interview, he or she will be asked up to 10 questions from the list of 100 questions. An applicant must answer correctly six of the 10 questions to pass the civics test.

    Your students have two opportunities to take the English and civics tests per application. If they fail any portion of the test during their first interview, they will be retested on the portion of the test that they failed between 60 and 90 days from the date of their initial interview.
    For more information on the naturalization test, please visit:

    As a permanent resident, you have most of the rights of U.S. citizens. However, there are many important reasons to consider U.S. citizenship. Citizenship offers new rights and privileges, but comes with equally important responsibilities. As a citizen you can:

    • Vote.
      Only citizens can vote in federal elections. Most states also restrict the right to vote, in most elections, to U.S. citizens.
    • Serve on a jury.
      Only U.S. citizens can serve on a federal jury. Most states also restrict jury service to U.S. citizens. Serving on a jury is an important responsibility for U.S. citizens.
    • Travel with a U.S. passport.
      A U.S. passport enables you to get assistance from the U.S. government when overseas, if necessary.
    • Bring family members to the U.S.
      U.S. citizens generally get priority when petitioning to bring family members permanently to this country.
    • Obtain citizenship for children under 18 years of age.
      In most cases, a child born abroad to a U.S. citizen is automatically a U.S. citizen.
    • Apply for federal jobs.
      Certain jobs with government agencies require U.S. citizenship.
    • Become an elected official.
      Only citizens can run for federal office (U.S. Senate or House of Representatives) and for most state and local offices.
    • Keep your residency.
      A U.S. citizen’s right to remain in the United States cannot be taken away.
    • Become eligible for federal grants and scholarships.
      Many financial aid grants, including college scholarships and funds given by the government for specific purposes, are available only to U.S. citizens.
    • Obtain government benefits.
      Some government benefits are available only to U.S. citizens.

      SEPTEMBER 16, 2016
      I am not a U.S. citizen and I registered to vote and voted in an election, what can happen to me?

      by Shorstein, Lasnetski & Gihon
      If you are not a United States citizen and you registered to vote, you could face criminal charges, denial of immigration benefits and even deportation from the country. These possibilities get even worse if you actually voted in an election.

    • There are federal and state laws that prohibit people who are not eligible to vote (usually non-citizen immigrants) from registering to vote and voting. It is a federal crime for a non-citizen immigrant to vote in a federal election. If you are not a citizen, you can be prosecuted, sent to prison and deported for voting in a federal election, even if you did not know you were not allowed to vote.

      The very act of registering to vote requires that a person certify that they are a United States citizen and eligible to vote. Anyone who registers to vote and is not a citizen, has likely made what is known as a false claim to citizenship. A false claim to citizenship can stick with a non-citizen forever and stop someone from getting a green card, getting citizenship and can even lead to detention an deportation from the United States.

      You may be thinking to yourself: everyone knows only citizens are eligible to vote, why would anyone who is not a citizen register? Or an even better question: why wouldn’t the person who is registering people to vote make sure the person registering is a U.S. citizen before letting them register?

      The scary truth is that the people who are registering people to vote often times do not know the law, they do not know only citizens can vote, and they are not properly trained or informed of this fact. Sometimes they are told not to ask about citizenship at all and just get people registered. Even worse, many times lawful permanent residents, foreign students and others who are applying for a driver’s license are asked by the driver’s license officials if they want to register to vote. The DMV officials do not explain to them that they have to be a U.S. citizen. They do not explain to them that by registering to vote and signing for their driver’s license, they are claiming to be a U.S. citizen, an act that can haunt them forever.

      If you are not a U.S. citizen and you are registered to vote or you have voted in an election, please, please go see an experienced and trusted immigration attorney as soon as possible. An attorney who knows this area of the law, like me can help non-citizens do damage control in a situation that can potentially lead to the denial of immigration benefits and deportation.

      If you are not a U.S. citizen and you have registered to vote or voted, all is not lost; you are not guaranteed a plane ticket back the country where you were born. Depending on the facts of your case and your immigration status, you may have defenses to the false claim to citizenship and unlawful voting.

      For example, if you are a lawful permanent resident (green card holder) and you have been in the country for many years, and you registered to vote or voted, you may be able to keep your green card, avoid deportation and even successfully apply for citizenship.

    If you are not a citizen and have registered to vote or voted and you have lived in the U.S. since you were a child, and your parents are citizens, you may not have violated the criminal or immigration laws on this subject.

    If you are not a citizen and you voted in a federal election-one where you were voting on the President or Congress-then you have likely violated the federal law on unlawful voting, even if you did not know you were doing anything wrong.

    If you are not a citizen and you voted in only a state or local election, and you did not know you were doing anything wrong, you may not have violated the criminal or immigration laws on the subject.

    This area of criminal and immigration law is very confusing and can lead to very serious consequences, whether you knew you were doing anything wrong or not.

    If you need an immigration attorney anywhere in the United States, but certainly if you live in Orlando or Jacksonville, please call Shorstein, Lasnetski & Gihon.

    If you are not a citizen and you registered to vote or voted, call us today to set up an appointment to find out how to try and protect your immigration status.

    Visit our website for more information about SLG:

    It looks like there is loophole that if they were here before 16 and didn't KNOW they were illegal,'t hey might get off. But all of these self proclaimed DREAMERS know they are illegal.

    18 U.S. Code § 611 - Voting by aliens

    (a)It shall be unlawful for any alien to vote in any election held solely or in part for the purpose of electing a candidate for the office of President, Vice President, Presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, Delegate from the District of Columbia, or Resident Commissioner, unless—(1)the election is held partly for some other purpose;

    (2)aliens are authorized to vote for such other purpose under a State constitution or statute or a local ordinance; and

    (3)voting for such other purpose is conducted independently of voting for a candidate for such Federal offices, in such a manner that an alien has the opportunity to vote for such other purpose, but not an opportunity to vote for a candidate for any one or more of such Federal offices.

    (b)Any person who violates this section shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than one year, or both.

    (c)Subsection (a) does not apply to an alien if—(1)each natural parent of the alien (or, in the case of an adopted alien, each adoptive parent of the alien) is or was a citizen (whether by birth or naturalization);

    (2)the alien permanently resided in the United States prior to attaining the age of 16; and

    (3)the alien reasonably believed at the time of voting in violation of such subsection that he or she was a citizen of the United States.

    (Added Pub. L. 104–208, div. C, title II, § 216(a), Sept. 30, 1996, 110 Stat. 3009–572; amended Pub. L. 106–395, title II, § 201(d)(1), Oct. 30, 2000, 114 Stat. 1635.)

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