Thread: Sooo....What If They Were All Here Legally?

I'm sure that all of us have been asked this question before..."So..what if they (the 38M) illegals were all here legally"?

I try to answer candidly and honestly by saying that:

1.) Most of them do not speak English.
2.) Most of them are uneducated.
3.) Most of them will be dependent upon social services for themselves and their families for a lifetime.
4.) Our schools are deteriorating.
5.) Our hopitals are closing.
6.) They are taking jobs from Americans.
7.) They are changing the cultural fabric of this country.
8,) Gang and drug activity is increasing drastically.

In reality, if they were here legally...I would still feel the same way. There are way too many unskilled laborers here; assimilation is not happening; crime is rampant; neighborhoods are being desecrated, etc.

We have exceeded our quotas by about 3M/year and hispanics are outnumbering Americans in many places. The socio-economic balance is skewed....and soon all of central and southern Mexico will be here!

Does it really make a difference if they are here legally or not? Would anything be any different? I don't think so. We just cannot handle 38M of Mexico's unskilled underclass!

The same thing would happen that happened in 1986. The "newly" legal would expect better wages, businesses would balk and refuse and need --> more illegals.

Then Kennedy would lie to us AGAIN and tell us --> if you make THIS BATCH legal, I'll never ask again.

The difference is that LEGAL immigrants have to know English as part of the process to become a citizen.

Also, LEGAL immigrants are much less likely to engage in crimes or be a drain on taxpayer services. They have passed many tests, paid many fees, waited years, and sworn an oath to our flag and Constitution. Many have done so with tears in their eyes and their friends and family taking pictures to commemorate the moment as it should be.

Also, they illegals would still not be here legally because we have set limits on the amount of legal immigration we will accept each year.

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Sadly, I doubt many of these new illegals could even read well enough to pass the citizenship tests. Many can't even read in their native language either.

When people come here legally they generally have a means to support themselves or someone here to support them. The illegal aliens are taking from all of us and still demanding more. Low skills, little education, lack of assimilation, law breaking to enter and work, it all adds up to little good for America or for Americans.

Psalm 139:14

Thats why making them all legal with an amnesty is nuts

the cost alone would be through the roof in social services

Not to mention all the other bug a boos

And the fact that in 10 years there would be another 20 million here

Plus all the anchor babies or "legal"babies they keep popping out

It would be an over population nightmare , if it isn't already

Its like bacteria with a perfect growth medium , if nothing slows them down they just keep growing exponentially,

the 38M that are here would not be here legally because even with the ridiculous limits we have they at most would represent about 6M. These people are a drain on our culture & need to leave.

Easiest way? Eliminate the cash flow. Stop hiring them, stop helping them, stop giving them federal assistance.

Ymeoru wrote:

The same thing would happen that happened in 1986. The "newly" legal would expect better wages, businesses would balk and refuse and need --> more illegals.

Yes, and remember, there were only 3 million that were amnestied in 1986. Can you imagine if we were to legalize 20-30 million low wage workers...while new illegals continued to flood across our unprotected borders!?!?! Any U.S. citizen that fails to recognize that the REAL plan is to equalize the wages (to the lowest common denominator) between the U.S. and Mexico (Canada, your turn is coming) is certifiably brain dead, IMHO.

Sooo....What If They Were All Here Legally?


There is no way all these criminals could be here legally. We have rules to limit the number of people coming here to live. They far exceed those limits. People coming here need to have a job waiting or someone to assist them. They must be self sufficient and not expect the government to support them. They must be healthy and free of diseases that have been eradicated in this country. They can't have infectious diseases. They must be willing to assimilate into our society. They must be willing to show loyalty to their new country. They must be educated. They must learn to speak English.
We have Immigration Laws to regulate immigration.
And those laws are not being enforced by the Federal Government.

So you see.......there is NO WAY these people could possibly be here LEGALLY.

Originally Posted by greyparrot

Ymeoru wrote:

The same thing would happen that happened in 1986. The "newly" legal would expect better wages, businesses would balk and refuse and need --> more illegals.

Yes, and remember, there were only 3 million that were amnestied in 1986. Can you imagine if we were to legalize 20-30 million low wage workers...while new illegals continued to flood across our unprotected borders!?!?! Any U.S. citizen that fails to recognize that the REAL plan is to equalize the wages (to the lowest common denominator) between the U.S. and Mexico (Canada, your turn is coming) is certifiably brain dead, IMHO.

Not to mention, each of these newly legal citizens gets to bring in more people.