Thread: William (help)

I posted one of ALIPACS topics in another forum like I always do to spread the word and a member there is saying it is "Hogwash". So what is it. Help me help them to understand. Here is the guys post!! OK, Paul, I'll tell you exactly what I think ...

(1) The manipulative partisan mouthpiece who posted the article you quoted is either completely unaware of the facts he professes to convey or is lying outright.

(2) The only thing this demonstrates is your own lack of knowledge and / or discrimination, your gullibility, and your willingness to serve as a parrot and apprentice spammer.

Here is the FULL TEXT of the body of Senate Bill S-9, introduced in January 2009:

Quote:
It is the sense of Congress that Congress should enact, and the President should sign, legislation to strengthen the economy, recognize the heritage of the United States as a nation of immigrants, and amend the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101 et seq.) by--
(1) providing more effective border and employment enforcement;
(2) preventing illegal immigration; and
(3) reforming and rationalizing avenues for legal immigration.
SOURCE: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill...pd?bill=s111-9

That's it, that's all ...

This is a 'sense of Congress' bill, which means its only purpose is to convey what Congress believes should be done. It neither prescribes nor embodies anything beyond rendering that opinion.

Bill S-9 was put on the Senate calendar after second reading in January (prior to the current administration taking office), and there hasn't been a single tangible action on it since.

If you want to post about immigration legislation or any other serious matter, you can start by verifying that what you post isn't empty BS like this is. Even better - you can start by posting something *you* think, rather than regurgitating someone else's crap.

Simply regurgitating something with any truth or substance to it, with no contribution of your own, reduces you to the level of a parrot.

Coughing up something as absurdly false as this reduces you to the level of a spammer.

When it comes to looking for, and trying out, new tech items for your X-Runner, you've displayed a lot of independent thinking and action (as reported to CT in your own - ahem ... - 'colorful' way ... ). I find it strange that someone who steps up and thinks / acts so independently with respect to his truck would willingly reduce himself to someone else's mouthpiece. Just an observation ...

So there - that's exactly what I think ...

Quite untoward and what an idiot.
First: S-9 is basically a placeholder for what the 111th Congress thinks they want to accomplish in the term, just like the first 10-15 bills every year. That is why there has been no action on it. It is skeletal language that says not much--the 300,000 pages of legislation will come later.
Second, please tell this character not to be so silly as to demean another person with whom he happens to disagree. Diplomacy should prevail in any debate.
I would also ask him what his views might be about jobs being outsourced continually, workers continually being imported, illegals taking jobs while paying nothing more than sales taxes, and all his tax dollars annually going to support the anchor babies and their extended families.
Throw something--you will feel better.
And ask him what is it about the term "illegal" he does not or refuses to understand?

Bobowobo, the gov't has many bloggers on the internet now, this guy may very well be a plant. So any argument you may come up with he/she may refuse to give any credence.

PS
You might post this link to Alex Jones movie " Fall of the Republic".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU

The link does not work for me

Bobowobo, Are you a trouble maker?

Take the fight to the dweeb. Vortex's suggestion is right on. Ask him what he thinks about illegal immigration and the various implications that grow up around such an illegal act.

If you really want to get his panties wound up in a wad, ask him if he is an illegal alien. Or a potential terrorist. (just kiddin')

bobowobo:

Listen to me. Posters get abusive when they see you as a threat to their point of view, or their agenda. They go on the attack BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING MAKES SENSE. If you wont back down they will try to attack you in other ways to get rid of you. EVERYTIME THEY ATTACK YOU, KNOW THAT YOU ARE GETTING UNDER THEIR SKIN. Repeat whatever you are doing that is getting them pissed off. If you go to a forum and no one attacks you, then you are not really getting the job done. ATTACKS FROM THE OPPOSITION=POINTS FOR OUR SIDE.

It does not matter if he/she agrees with you. They will never agree with you...they are the OPPOSITION. Stand strong (even if you are alone on the forum and no one agrees with you) and make your case and dont back down....not even an inch. The more they attack you....the better.

Vortex and Ele, Thanks for the info. I love fighting against these left wingers. I will go over there and use your advice.

RedPony and Roundabout, The guy that is arguing with me is a moderator. So look for me to be banned. [img][/img]

Originally Posted by Bobowobo

RedPony and Roundabout, The guy that is arguing with me is a moderator. So look for me to be banned. [img][/img]

Good a moderator!!! I love it when they are moderators!!! Hit him hard and fast because you are going to be banned. Make every post count!! Beat the hell out of him, then when you get banned go back and use another email .....ROUND TWO. Dont back down. Moderators are just people, not gods. And there are plenty places on the net to post....PLENTY.

And dont let him take you off topic. He will criticize your spelling and grammer and everything....trying to take you off topic. STAY ON TOPIC. Ignore insults and stay on topic. If he threatens to ban you....say "Fine, if you are afraid to debate, or you have no arguments left...I guess that you have to resort to insults and banning....lol." Dont forget the "lol."

Originally Posted by vortex

Quite untoward and what an idiot.
First: S-9 is basically a placeholder for what the 111th Congress thinks they want to accomplish in the term, just like the first 10-15 bills every year. That is why there has been no action on it. It is skeletal language that says not much--the 300,000 pages of legislation will come later.
Second, please tell this character not to be so silly as to demean another person with whom he happens to disagree. Diplomacy should prevail in any debate.
I would also ask him what his views might be about jobs being outsourced continually, workers continually being imported, illegals taking jobs while paying nothing more than sales taxes, and all his tax dollars annually going to support the anchor babies and their extended families.
Throw something--you will feel better.
And ask him what is it about the term "illegal" he does not or refuses to understand?

Vortex, Thanx for the idea. I copied and pasted a part of your post. I hope ya don't mind. Here my question for him.
Enola, since you seem to have the answers. I have a couple questions for ya. Maybe you can give some credible input. What are your views might be about jobs being outsourced continually, workers continually being imported, illegals taking jobs while paying nothing more than sales taxes, and all our tax dollars annually going to support the anchor babies and their extended families.