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    Dianne wrote:

    One says borrow more money from China and fight until we are bankrupt...
    You're dead wrong. Saying that everyone who doesn't support a "cut & run" policy supports borrowing from China until were bankrupt is nothing more than hyperbole. I'm disappointed in you Dianne. That is something I would expect from someone like BrightNail, but not you.

    If you bear an American uniform and enlist to protect this great nation, and serve this great nation; you should be respected for it.
    Did I say otherwise? I would say there is also something to be said for crawling in the muddy trenches, weapon in hand, wondering if you're going to see another sunrise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW
    Dianne wrote:

    One says borrow more money from China and fight until we are bankrupt...
    You're dead wrong. Saying that everyone who doesn't support a "cut & run" policy supports borrowing from China until were bankrupt is nothing more than hyperbole. I'm disappointed in you Dianne. That is something I would expect from someone like BrightNail, but not you.
    It's not a 'cut & run' policy if the objectives that were laid out at the beginning have all been met. I've posted several times what those objectives were and we've accomplished them ALL. How can you not see THAT?

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    PineStrawGuys wrote:

    It's not a 'cut & run' policy if the objectives that were laid out at the beginning have all been met. I've posted several times what those objectives were and we've accomplished them ALL. How can you not see THAT?
    Nothing in war offers guarantees. Objectives can change, how can you not see that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianne
    Bankruptcy will rule the day. America is on the verge of banruptcy. Our dollar is declining. We have outsourced all major manufacturing jobs. We are allowing our mortgage holder, China to ship toxic materials in the country; however, they refuse to import any of our goods to their country. We have allowed millions of criminal immigrants along with terrorists to invade this country, as we fight a fake war in Afghanistan and Iraq.
    If the bold print is very important to you, then Duncan Hunter is your candidate.
    Serve Bush with his letter of resignation.

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    Pinestraw

    I am glad you decided to stay with us
    Serve Bush with his letter of resignation.

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    BearFlagRepublic wrote:

    If the bold print is very important to you, then Duncan Hunter is your candidate.
    Touche.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BearFlagRepublic
    Pinestraw

    I am glad you decided to stay with us
    I'll need more blood pressure medicine...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PinestrawGuys
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    Pinestraw

    I am glad you decided to stay with us
    I'll need more blood pressure medicine...
    No need. Samuel Adams Winter Selection works just fine. I think I am on #6 or seven...

    Sam Adams, great American. Great brewer.....Hey, did you know how much the founders enjoyed beer?

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    I rest my case....

    Airborne posted this on ALIPAC earlier this am.


    More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says
    By Jim Brown
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    February 22, 2007

    (AgapePress) -- Illegal aliens are killing more Americans than the Iraq war, says a new report from Family Security Matters that estimates some 2,158 murders are committed every year by illegal aliens in the U.S. The group says that number is more than 15 percent of all the murders reported by the Federal Bureau of Investigation in the U.S. and about three times the representation of illegal aliens in the general population.

    Mike Cutler, a former senior special agent with the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service (the former INS), is a fellow at the Center for Immigration Studies and an advisor to Family Security Matters (FSM). He says the high number of Americans being killed by illegal aliens is just part of the collateral damage that comes with tolerating illegal immigration.

    "The military actually called for the BORTAC team, ... the elite unit of the Border Patrol, to be detailed to Iraq to help to secure the Iraqi border," Cutler notes. "Now, if our military can understand that Iraq's security depends in measure on the ability to protect its border against insurgents and terrorists, then why isn't our country similarly protecting our own borders?" he asks.
    "We are not five and a half years, nearly, after 9/11, and yet our borders remain open," the Center for Immigration Studies fellow observes. "We have National Guardsmen assigned on the border, but it turns out they are unarmed," he points out. "Their rules of engagement are very simple: if armed intruders head your way, run in the other direction."

    This situation would "almost be comical if it wasn't so tragic," Cutler asserts. "If our borders are wide open, this means that drugs, criminals, and terrorists are entering our country just as easily as the dishwashers," he says.

    The report from FSM estimates that the 267,000 illegal aliens currently incarcerated in the nation are responsible for nearly 1,300,000 crimes, ranging from drug arrests to rape and murder. Such statistics, Cutler contends, debunk the claim that illegal immigration is a victimless crime. "Then we even have another problem," he adds, "and that's the Visa Waiver Program."

    The federal government's Visa Waiver Program enables nationals of certain countries to travel to the United States for tourism or business for stays of 90 days or less without obtaining a visa. According to the U.S. State Department website, the waiver program was established in 1986 with the objective of "eliminating unnecessary barriers to travel," stimulating America's tourism industry, and allowing the government to focus consular resources in other areas.

    Cutler says the U.S. retains the Visa Waiver Program because the nation's travel, tourism, and hospitality industries want America's borders wide open. In other words, the former INS official contends, the nation's security is being compromised in the name of trade.

    http://www.gopusa.com/news/2007/februar ... port.shtml

    This study was concluded in February of this year. I dread seeing the Statistics for the entire 2007 killing season.

    Yet our political town idiots in Washington pulls the Border fence funding. It's time to take our country back People

    Leed, Follow, or get out of the way

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