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    Texas Congressman Says DNC Leaks May Have Been An Inside Job, CNN Flips Out

    Texas Congressman Says DNC Leaks May Have Been An Inside Job, CNN Flips Out
    RICHIE MCGINNISS
    10:20 AM 05/25/2017

    Texas Rep. Blake Farenthold challenged the Russia hacking narrative, claiming that we still have no idea how Democratic National Committee emails were hacked during the election last year.

    “There is still some question as to whether the intrusion at the DNC server was an insider job or whether or not it was the Russians,” Farenthold told CNN.

    “I’m sorry. The insider job — what are you referring to?” CNN host John Berman pressed. “Because I hope it’s not this information that Fox News just refused to be reporting.”

    Berman was referring to a retracted Fox News story that stated that DNC staffer Seth Rich was in contact with WikiLeaks before his murder in July 2016.

    “Well again, there’s stuff circulating on the internet. My questions is —” Farenthold answered.

    “What? What is circulating on the internet?” Berman interrupted. “What is circulating on the internet that you think is worthy of a congressional investigation? Because the DC police are investigating this, and so far they haven’t there is any there there.”

    “Yet the DC police nor no federal investigator has ever had a look at the DNC computer,” Farenthold claimed. “We are relying only on the report of somebody that the DNC contracted to examine their computer.”

    The FBI and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence said in a statement last October that the intelligence community “is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including from US political organizations.”

    “The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts,” the statement read. “These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process.”

    Farenthold continued, “the media, which is serving from a distraction for what needs to be done in this country: that’s fixing health care, that’s getting people back to work, that’s fixing taxes, that’s securing the border. Instead, we are hearing a constant barrage of anti-Trump — I’m gonna call it propaganda.”

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    CNN's obviously biased report. The headline is a dead giveaway that CNN is trying to influence public opinion for the Democrat party "line". The Clinton News Network hard at work. IMO

    A Texas Republican Congressman just said something deeply irresponsible about Seth Rich's murder


    By Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large
    Updated 2:48 PM ET, Wed May 24, 2017


    (CNN)Texas Rep. Blake Farenthold, during an appearance on CNN Wednesday morning, offered what seemed to be a wink and nod to the debunked conspiracy theories surrounding the murder of former Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich.

    Here's the exchange with CNN's Poppy Harlow and John Berman:

    FARENTHOLD: "My fear is our constant focusing on the Russians is deflecting away for some other things that we need to be investigating. There's still some question as to whether the intrusion of the DNC server was an insider job or whether or not it was the Russians."

    BERMAN: "What evidence -- I'm sorry. I'm sorry. The insider job, what are you referring to here? Because I hope it's not this information that Fox News just refused to be reporting."

    FAHRENTHOLD: "Again, there's stuff circulating on the internet."

    BERMAN: "What's circulating on the internet that you think is worthy of a congressional investigation? Because the DC police are investigating this, and so far they haven't said there's any there there."

    FARENTHOLD: "Yet the DC police nor no federal investigator has ever had a look at the DNC computer. We're relying only on the report that someone that the DNC contracted to examine their computer rather than having federal officials. To me, we need to let the feds look at it."

    At issue is a since-retracted report last week from Fox News Channel and the local Fox affiliate in D.C. alleging that evidence had been uncovered showing that Rich had been in contact with WikiLeaks prior to his murder. (I'm not linking to the report because it has been retracted. More on that below.)

    Those reports added fuel to an ongoing and unfounded conspiracy theory in a corner on the Internet that the hacking of the DNC was an inside job -- that Rich was an informant exposing the corruption of the party committee and had been killed for it. (This also assumes the CIA and FBI were wrong in their assessment that the hack of the DNC server was perpetrated by the Russians.)

    Problem is, the FNC report isn't right. The key source for the article said he has no knowledge of any contact between Rich and WikiLeaks and added that he only heard of possible evidence from a Fox News reporter. And Fox News, on Tuesday, retracted the story entirely: "The article was not initially subjected to the high degree of editorial scrutiny we require for all our reporting. Upon appropriate review, the article was found not to meet those standards and has since been removed," Fox said in a statement.

    The facts of the case haven't stopped conspiracy theorists -- aided by a major push on the story from Fox News star Sean Hannity -- from insisting that the initial Fox report on Rich and WikiLeaks was accurate and is now being pushed aside by the very forces they claim murdered Rich in the first place.

    Rich's parents wrote an op-ed in The Washington Post on Tuesday calling for an end to the conspiracy theories about their son's death. They wrote:

    "We know that Seth's personal email and his personal computer were both inspected by detectives early in the investigation and that the inspection revealed no evidence of any communications with anyone at WikiLeaks or anyone associated with WikiLeaks. Nor did that inspection reveal any evidence that Seth had leaked DNC emails to WikiLeaks or to anyone else."

    RELATED: Seth Rich and the myth behind the unsolved murder case

    Hannity made a small concession to the wishes of Rich's parents and brother on his show Tuesday night, not spending time fomenting a conspiracy theory. But, he tweeted soon afterwards: "Ok TO BE CLEAR, I am closer to the TRUTH than ever. Not only am I not stopping, I am working harder. Updates when available. Stay tuned!"

    Farenthold appears to be swimming in those Hannity-filled waters with his comments to Berman and Harlow Wednesday morning. "There's stuff circulating on the Internet" is not a responsible way to deal with the murder of a young man. Compare Farenthold's "stuff floating around the Internet" with the assertion from Rich's parents that they've seen no evidence that suggests a connection between their son and WikiLeaks. Which is more credible to you?

    To believe what Farenthold is saying, you have to believe that Rich's family is in on the "inside job" DNC hack. Which, on its face, is ridiculous.

    As an aside, Farenthold also appears to equate his conspiracy theory spinning with the news media's use of anonymous sources, despite the fact former CIA Director John Brennan said Tuesday at a public congressional hearing that he'd seen evidence of contact between Russians and President Donald Trump's campaign.

    "I think the same is true with what the media is doing with Trump," Farenthold told CNN. "We're basing allegations on anonymous sources."

    The problem with what Farenthold -- and Hannity -- are doing is that by acting as though this is some sort of grand conspiracy theory with real evidence supporting it gives cover and fodder to the Internet kook crowd who believe that the DNC is evil and of course they would murder a leaker in their ranks.

    What that forgets is this: Two parents lost a son. Someone lost their brother. That's hard enough. To watch his death transformed into a political football must be excruciating.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/24/politi...old-seth-rich/




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    As an aside, Farenthold also appears to equate his conspiracy theory spinning with the news media's use of anonymous sources, despite the fact former CIA Director John Brennan said Tuesday at a public congressional hearing that he'd seen evidence of contact between Russians and President Donald Trump's campaign.
    Brennan is a past proven liar.....

    Gowdy Grills Brennan: Do You Have Evidence Of Trump-Russia Collusion Or Not? Brennan: "I Don't Do Evidence"

    Posted By Tim Hains
    On Date May 23, 2017

    Rep. Trey Gowdy grills former CIA director John Brennan at a House Intelligence Committee meeting Tuesday morning on Russia's interference in the 2016 election. Gowdy repeatedly presses Brennan for some kind of hard evidence, or even the admission that such evidence exists, that President Trump or his campaign were inolved with the Russian attempt to influence the election.

    Brennan repeatedly dodged, saying: "As I said Mr. Gowdy, I don't do evidence."

    "I appreciate that you don't do evidence, Director Brennan. Unfortunately, that's what I do," Gowdy fired back. "That's the word we use, you use the word assessment, you use the word tradecraft. I use the word evidence. And the good news for me is lots of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle use the word evidence, too. One of my colleagues said there is more than circumstantial evidence of collusion between the Russians and the Trump campaign."

    Eventually Brennan replied: "I don't know whether or not such collusion -- and that's your term, such collusion existed. I don't know. But I know that there was a sufficient basis of information and intelligence that required further investigation by the bureau to determine whether or not U.S. persons were actively conspiring, colluding with Russian officials."

    More segments of Gowdy grilling Brennan below.



    Transcript:

    GOWDY: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

    Director, thank you for your service to our country. Let's go back to where we were a couple minutes ago, you mentioned or you testify that you had a conversation in August of 2016 with your Russian counterpart, you testified that you briefed at least eight members of Congress throughout (inaudible) of your investigation.

    When you learned of Russian efforts -- and we'll get to that in a minute because my understanding from your unclassified report is, Russia has historically attempted to interfere with our electoral process. And they did so without coordination, collusion or conspiring with any of the candidates, so they have a history of doing it. We'll lay that aside for a minute, 2016 electoral process. When you learned of Russian efforts, did you have evidence of a connection between the Trump campaign and Russian state actors?

    BRENNAN: As I said Mr. Gowdy, I don't do evidence...

    GOWDY: Well, I...

    BRENNAN: ... and we were uncovering information intelligence about interactions and contacts between U.S. persons and the Russians. And as we came upon that, we would share it with the bureau.

    GOWDY: I appreciate that you don't do evidence, Director Brennan. Unfortunately, that's what I do. That's the word we use, you use the word assessment, you use the word tradecraft. I use the word evidence. And the good news for me is lots of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle use the word evidence, too. One of my colleagues said there is more than circumstantial evidence of collusion between the Russians and the Trump campaign.

    Now, there are only two types of evidence; there's circumstantial and direct. So if it's more than circumstantial, by necessity, it has to be direct. Those aren't my words; those are the words of one of my colleagues on the other side of this very committee. Another Democrat colleague on the other side of this committee also used the word evidence, that he has seen evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians and yet a third California Democrat, said she had seen no evidence of collusion.

    So that's three different members of Congress from the same state, using the same word, which is evidence. And that's the word that my fellow citizens understand, evidence. Assessment is -- is your vernacular. Tradecraft is your vernacular. You and I both know worth the word evidence makes. And we're not getting into whether or not you corroborated, contradicted, examined, cross-examined. We're not getting into how you tested and probed the reliability of that evidence; it's a really simple question.

    Did evidence exist of collusion, coordination, conspiracy, between the Trump campaign and Russian state actors at the time you learned of 2016 efforts?

    BRENNAN: I encountered and am aware of information and intelligence that revealed contacts and interactions between Russian officials and U.S. persons involved in the Trump campaign that I was concerned about because of known Russian efforts to suborn such individuals and it raised questions in my mind, again, whether or not the Russians were able to gain the cooperation of those individuals.

    I don't know whether or not such collusion -- and that's your term, such collusion existed. I don't know. But I know that there was a sufficient basis of information and intelligence that required further investigation by the bureau to determine whether or not U.S. persons were actively conspiring, colluding with Russian officials.

    GOWDY: Do you know the basis of that information that you shared with the bureau? What was -- the nature of the evidence?

    BRENNAN: I think, Mr. Gowdy, this committee has now been provided information that relates to that issue in terms of information that the agency shared with the bureau and that is something that is appropriately classified.

    GOWDY: All right, and you learned that when? When in this chronology did you learn of the contacts between these official members of the Trump campaign or -- because there's kind of a tripartite hierarchy. There's Trump himself, there are official members of the campaign, and then there are folks who represented themselves as being connected with him.

    BRENNAN: I'm not going to try to identify individuals nor try to parse it.

    GOWDY: I don't want you to parse it, I just want you to identify the individuals. I don't want you to parse it.

    BRENNAN: I'm not going to identify the individuals because this is information that, again, is based on classified sources and intelligence. And I think this committee has access to it...

    GOWDY: Were they official members of the campaign?

    BRENNAN: I'm going to defer to current agency officials to be able to further provide to you information related to that. But my understanding is that this committee has access to the documents that we would have provided to the bureau.

    GOWDY: All right. Last question because I'm out of time, we can use the word onus, we both know what the other one's talking about. How did you test, probe, examine, cross-examine, otherwise test the reliability or believability, credibility, of that evidence you uncovered?

    BRENNAN: I made sure that the components within CIA that have responsible for counterintelligence, cyber, and Russia, were actively working to understand as much as possible about the reliability, accuracy of the information that they already collected and information that was available that needed further corroboration.

    GOWDY: We'll come back to it next round.

    All of Gowdy's questions:


    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid..._evidence.html
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    “The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts,” the statement read. “These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process.”
    DCLeaks.com ... what is that? First I've heard of it. That stands for "DC" of District of Columbia?

    There's two separate events going on here. The John Podesta emails that were hacked at aol.com. John Podesta wasn't at the DNC, he was somewhere else with the Hillary Campaign. His emails wouldn't have been hacked by a hacking on a DNC server, only those to and from DNC staff that would have been saved on the DNC server. Most people have their own email account. Then there is the actual hacking of the DNC Server, that may or may not have occurred. We don't even know if the DNC server was actually hacked let alone by whom or if it was hacked, whether the hacking had anything to do with the election or emails or information. Most hackers are hacking for money through donation links.

    So two possible but separate hacking jobs. Who and for why remains unknown and unsolved. Was it an inside job at the DNC? With their IT guy having been murdered shortly after this story broke last summer, I would say there is a much higher probability that Seth Rich downloaded, not hacked, information off the DNC system and released it because he was unhappy with what was going on against Bernie Sanders by Debbie Wasserman-Schulz. After all, the result of that was her forced resignation, a good thing, and had nothing to do with Donald Trump, the Trump Campaign or any of his "aides", "associates", "advisers" or "operatives".

    Solve the murder of Seth Rich and you'll solve the mystery of who hacked or more likely just downloaded information from the DNC server which any IT person with access to the server can do which any competent IT person investigating the matter would know, most certainly any of the IT investigators at the FBI.

    Based on the truly strange statements of the "Intel" community, I believe this whole Russian Hacking thing is a hoax. Russia doesn't spend their time or resources trying to elect Republicans to public office. When have the Russians ever been Republican? If they've come this far in their development, this would be tremendous news for the good, but since the 1970's, the Russians have always been aligned with our Socialist Democrats starting with their role in the SDS against the Vietnam War. Of course millennials and snowflakes probably don't know about that.

    While most real Republicans have always wanted better relations with the Russians as we do with all countries and most obviously an important country like Russia who was our incredible Ally in WWII, Russians due to their own situation were far more Socialist than what the vast majority of Republicans are comfortable with.

    Trump of course wants to try to break through that and become better friends with Russia to benefit our own country as well as Russia. Is it possible? Who knows? But just because it's hard and might fail doesn't mean you don't try. Trump is a special unique person, he has knowledge, experience, skills and a personality that can do things others can't. We should all be supporting him on this goal, he ran on it, he was elected on it, and we should give him a chance to do it, because that could mean a major reduction in nuclear arms and a much stronger team to fight against more nuclearization by other countries like Iran, North Korea and who knows who else is out there scheming and plotting for such weapons of mass destruction.

    It's really disturbing that our CIA, FBI and NSA would be taking such horrific stances against our new President. It's like a coup d' etat in motion based on what so far is proving to be nothing but lies and fabrications. It's really insulting too that they thought they could get away with this. It implies they think the Americans they serve are idiots, and while we certainly have our share, the vast majority of American Citizens are hard to fool when it gets down to unfounded accusations. We're the people who want to know "where's the beef?" We're the people who will listen to your rhetoric for awhile, but at some point you'll have to "show me" the evidence.

    And there is no evidence of anything so far except illegal leaks of classified information by government officials.

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    Then we have the FBI that we recently found out can leave threads or crumbs to make it look like Russia hacked into info and places the blame on Russia. So if anyone is going to do an investigation. This should all be investigated the DNC hacked e-mails, FBI along with the Trump team. You cannot pick and choose who to investigate. All the current investigation is doing is allowing people to accuse certain people of being guilty without any actual proof. The law is supposed to be Innocent until proven guilty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by posylady View Post
    Then we have the FBI that we recently found out can leave threads or crumbs to make it look like Russia hacked into info and places the blame on Russia. So if anyone is going to do an investigation. This should all be investigated the DNC hacked e-mails, FBI along with the Trump team. You cannot pick and choose who to investigate. All the current investigation is doing is allowing people to accuse certain people of being guilty without any actual proof. The law is supposed to be Innocent until proven guilty.
    Exactly. It's a Witch Hunt Fishing Expedition which by itself violates all rules of reasonable suspicion and probable cause for law enforcement. Smearing these people, making demands of them to testify, issuing subpoenas for personal documents, threatening them through the press with "scrutiny", "probes", "contempt of Congress charges", "federal investigations", when there are no crimes, all to falsely accuse them of "TIES TO RUSSIA" they used to "COLLUDE WITH RUSSIA" to win an election they actually won with good policies and hard work, fair and square, by the book and is what ought to be investigated by someone.

    Apparently we don't have anyone to investigate the investigators violating the civil rights and protections of campaign workers, campaign advisers, campaign supporters, or the candidates and their families.

    When Trump called it McCarthyism, he was right. At least McCarthy had a real concern with Communists but took it too far. Here, the only concern is a bunch of losers who can't get their heads around the fact that they lost the election they thought they had rigged for Hillary Clinton and the Russia Hoax is just their delusional way to try to over-turn the election.

    The night of November 8th, when in spite of everything that the Democrats and Media had done to Trump, we had hope. It was a night of whether or not good would prevail over evil, an election determining whether the US becomes the World's Largest Banana Republic or changes course and becomes a great and prosperous country again.

    So, we still believed as the night wore on, and as Florida came in but no one would call, then North Carolina, then Ohio, we seemed almost there but stuck, then POW, here came Wisconsin, then Michigan and Pennsylvania .... it was the most exciting election event in my lifetime. I'll never forget it. There will be books written and movies made about that night.

    But even then, none of the networks would call Florida .... until Bret Baier and Fox News called it for Trump, and said the words we'd been waiting up all night to hear: "Fox News has called the state of Florida for Donald Trump. Donald Trump has been elected the 45th President of the United States." We all cried, like we were part of a miracle.

    Trump Supporters were on the right side of history and did the right thing to save our nation by electing Donald J Trump our President. No doubt about it.

    Any reptile in this stinking Swamp in DC who thinks we're going to let a bunch of crazy spooks in the CIA or FBI take that away from the people of our country is in for one HUUUUGE surprise. They'll be looking out from their jail cells asking a world that no longer hears or sees them "where did we go wrong?"

    You spooks went wrong when you thought you could exploit your government job to throw the election to Hillary Clinton, and when that didn't work, you abused your government job to try to over-turn it. That just doesn't fly in our little land of liberty.

    And if I hear one more of our Congresscritters thanking these bastards for their "service", I'll puke.
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