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    The Tide IS Turning !!

    The tide is turning.

    President Bush, you don't really think you can stop a WAVE , do you ?

    You can't stop a wave anymore than you can stop a hurricane !

    There are two things more powerful than your pen on a paper.

    One is Mother Nature, the other is the WILL of the American people .
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    You have it SO RIGHT, LEGAL!! This idiot doesn't know what HIT HIM. He is OBLICIOUS to the WAVE of AMERICANS. He honestly thinks he can get out there with that speech on VETERAN'S DAY and SLAM anyone who disagrees with him or, God forbid, QUESTIONS his judgement and get away with it. What a TERRIBLE day to inject that into a speech.

    I want to know one thing about this intelligence about Iraq. I realize that a LOT of the Democrats who are now complaining did vote FOR the war. But, what I want to know is did Congress really SEE all of the SAME intelligence that Bush and Cheney had access to or did they just get what the White House wanted to share??? I've heard arguments on both sides of that and it seems to me that it's POSSIBLE that Congress didn't have actual DIRECT access to the intelligence. Does anyone KNOW the answer to that one???

    And, the other thing that keeps nagging at me is that, from that press conference at the ranch in August of 2002, I had this GUT feeling that we were being lied to about Iraq and I definitely knew THEN that he was hell-bent on taking us to Iraq. And, I swear--all along, even when Powell made his presentation at the UN, I just KNEW that the evidence he was presenting was FLIMSY at BEST. WHY did our Congressmen not SEE this??

    The other thing I want to question is, when Congress voted to give the President the authority to go to War, was all of that information available to them at that time or did that come later???? I do remember there were a few like Senator Bob Graham from Florida who DID question the intelligence. I'm sure there were others but I do think that, UNLESS my suppositions about how much intelligence they actually got AND where that intelligence came from, they are being pretty two-faced to question the facts about Iraq now.

    I have a keen sense of fairness and I don't want to judge anyone without the facts but, if they are just covering their posteriors now that things are going badly for Bush, I will write THEM off. On the other side, I FIRMLY BELIEVE that the White House took little SNIPPETS of intelligence reports and HYPED them out the roof. BUT, I was seeing through that so I just have NEVER been able to understand why more of our representatives weren't able to see through that????

    Thanks for any input!
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    Bootsie, you ask a great question. The answer lies with who they are and what they are about.

    Lets take illegal immigration. One-sixth of our nation is illegal foreign nationals. Do they not see? Do tney not know? Do they not hear? Do they not read?

    They see what they want to see, hear what they want to hear, know what they want to know.

    They are all idiots and traitors.

    They saw the intelligence that Wackident arranged for them to have and to hold.

    The CIA prepared the reports at the request and direction of the Wackident.

    And they all sucked it up like pigs at a trough because they've all got business interests and special interests that benefit from war.

    We've known since shortly after we invaded there weren't any WMDs in Iraq which was more than 2 years ago. So what have they been doing for the past 2 years? Sucking in the money from the war that future generations of Americans will still be paying for and tens of thousands of injured will still be paying for and as of today 2,062 have already paid for with their lives.

    But this is old news. Bush lied. Bush manufactured the story. Bush fabricated the case. Bush lied to the United Nations. Bush lied to the United States Congress. Bush lied to the American People. Bush lied to the World. Bush lied about CAFTA. Bush lied about FTAA. Bush lies about everything. He lies about the war on terror. He lied about 9/11.

    The man is insane.

    He is pathological.

    He is dangerous.

    And he is going to get us all killed if we don't get him out of the White House....NOW!!!

    The man went to bed on Monday the day the levees broke in New Orleans after speaking with both the Mayor of New Orleans and the Governor of Louisiana who both said SEND US EVERYTHING YOU'VE GOT.

    He went to bed at 9 pm and did nothing for 4 more days while people starved, babies cried, and old people died in their wheelchairs on public streets for the whole world to see.

    The man is not right and he doesn't have one right person in his White House Staff or his Cabinet.

    He did the same thing on 9/11. A plane has been hijacked and flown into the North Tower of the WTC. He does nothing. Instead he walks cool as a cucumber into a 2 grade class room and reads to the children. Another plane has been hijacked and is flown into the South Tower of the WTC. He does nothing. Instead he continues to read a story.

    See the pattern?

    This is pathological behavior.

    Bush was a pilot and it's in the 9/11 Commission Report that he was a NORAD intercept pilot. He knows the intercept protocol better than anybody. He KNEW before he walked into that classroom that NORAD had to work if there more planes to save Americans from harm. He KNEW that he was the one who had to give the order to intercept those planes, follow the protocol and take them out if ncessary. It took me 4 years to learn what that sonofabitch knew from the time he was in the Texas Air National Guard and served as an Intercept Pilot for NORAD.

    He knows there's 50,000,000 illegal foreign nationals in the United States--one-sixth our population. He's known all along. He knows what that means; what it does to us as Americans; and what it means to the United States if they are not deported. And what does he do?

    NOTHING as more pour in every single day.

    What I think is happening in Congress is that they are about to realize that unless they Impeach this man, they will become a defunct body. Which is true. Will they Impeach? Do any of them have the guts it takes to save themselves and US and the United States and Impeach the Wackident?



    Well...nothing I've seen out of them for the past year demonstrates they have the guts to do anything.

    BUT, lets be hopeful, optimistic, determined, and show no mercy....and see what power 250,000,000 PISSED OFF AMERICANS can accomplish, eh? I believe its the most powerful force on the face of the earth and may be sufficient to move the US Congress into an action it needed to take 7 months ago.

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    Thanks, Judy. I really DO want to be fair and, if CONGRESS did see ALL of the intelligence that Bush saw, I want to know that. It's not fair for the ones who voted to allow Bush to take us to war to come up 2 1/2 years later and blame HIM IF, and that's the big IF, they really, as Bush claims, saw the same intelligence that took us to Iraq. My personal opinion is that they only saw what the White House WANTED them to see but I really don't know how that works vis a vis the CIA and reporting directly to Congress on their intelligence.
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    The CIA reports to the President. NO CIA report went to Congress without the approval of the President concerning an invasion of Iraq, I can assure you. If the CIA doesn't know the difference between an aluminum tube for manufacturing and a solid aluminum rod used in nuclear production, then we are in big trouble. If all these "aids" and specialists we pay for to educate these Congressman don't know the difference either, then we are in deep twit.

    I think our Government is Brain Dead, and I mean that seriously.

    They can't even decide to tell us whether Osama died in Egypt from kidney failure in the fall of 2001 as reported in an Egyptian newspaper or not.

    We're in both big trouble and deep twit.

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    DEEP TWIT???!!!!! You are going to start this again today, aren't you?? AND, I NEED A NAP!! So, try to get all of the HILARITY done early this morning so I can sleep without laughing around 11ish!!

    OKAY--so I can safely support the ones who are now coming out accusing the President of lying?? I KNOW the President lies. YOU know the President lies. But, I just want to be SURE that the OTHERS aren't lying when they say they didn't see the same intelligence that Bush saw.

    THANKS.
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    Will someone get a poll going that states "Do you think the President should be impeached?"
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    Where would a good site be??? We KNOW that ALIPAC won't be a scientific one because MOST of us want him impeached. I don't really know how one would do that. Maybe jp or some of our other computer experts wouild know.
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    Or maybe we can get CNN to do it, fat chance of that, aye?
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    I just WONDER if LOU MIGHT consider it??? I might just try to contact him on that one. Good idea, Rockfish--IF it works!!!
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