Thread: Time to Call a Spade a Spade

The biggest problem I've encountered is getting a really high-gloss shine on my tinfoil hat...the products out there just don't do the same job they used to....

I'm having trouble finding decent aluminum foil.....forget shining. Naw....hot glue gune and some lace and feathers....looks nice. LOL

Seriously over 7 bucks for heavy duty aluminum foil. Toliet paper is thicker than the cheap stuff.

There is no conspiracy. Its as old as time. Fuedal lords excercising their dominance over the masses. How long do you think middle-classes have existed? We live in a very unique time-period, in a world with a history dominated by oppression, tyranny, and slavery. The modern Western world created something great........Where if you work hard, you are rewarded with a comfortable life. This is unique to the 20th century Western world. The fuedal lords are trying to leverage it back to total control at the top, mass poverty and ignorance below.

It never changed in Mexico and the rest of the Third World. The elites aren't so much emulating them, as they are going back to civilizational norms and traditions. One difference: we are not slaves, we have a constitution, and we have a feirce tradition of freedom and winning battlles. Let's see who wins out.

Tokenconservative - you asked for proof; how about your proof that the government doesn't spray the air with pathogens. Is your only argument against the idea is that it sounds too far out there? Do you actually think that someone deep inside the government would come forward and admit that they spayed pathogens and killed people? Even a guilty conscious wouldn't result in that admission. Agent orange was in the same category. Study up on that. Anyone who doesn't think that this is happening is naive.

StokeyBob- thanks for the information


Hey you all,

As much as I love my tinfoil hat, don't wear it. All these cell phone towers and underground electromagnetic energies would be attracted to metal. In today's area we need another term for us other than "tinfoil hat."

saveourcountry,

I came across this book yesterday when I was looking for information on the experiments over San Diego.

Undue Risk : Secret Sate Experiments On Humans

http://www.amazon.ca/Undue-Risk-Secr.../dp/0716731428

Even if you don't buy the book the product description is worth reading. I remember the first time I heard about the man passing himself off as a doctor that injected someone with plutonium and studied him dieing. He did it to the other human being without him knowing. The man died and his body was snatched out of the cemetery. The doctor that did it is also dead.

Another story I remember from my youth is the one about the big radio station that was built in the beginning of radio. They built the mother of all stations. It could broadcast a good distance around the world or at least a good piece across the United States. Farmers started having problems with milk production. People could pick up the station on bob wire fences if they were the right length. Many weird things began to happen. I think that was when the first regulations were introduced on the output a station could have.

The problem I see today is that we don't have super powerful stations but we do have massive quantities of transmitters. The RFD tags they are talking about are themselves little transmitters. We are being inundated with many new products with transmitters. I've heard of a college that banned WIFI because of all of the signal pollution. At least that is what the article said.

I think this is a huge problem today. I suppose many of us are the guinea pigs.

Don't knock those tinfoil hats! Tin foil does block radiation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin-foil_hat

Originally Posted by saveourcountry

Tokenconservative - you asked for proof; how about your proof that the government doesn't spray the air with pathogens. Is your only argument against the idea is that it sounds too far out there? Do you actually think that someone deep inside the government would come forward and admit that they spayed pathogens and killed people? Even a guilty conscious wouldn't result in that admission. Agent orange was in the same category. Study up on that. Anyone who doesn't think that this is happening is naive.

StokeyBob- thanks for the information


Hey you all,

As much as I love my tinfoil hat, don't wear it. All these cell phone towers and underground electromagnetic energies would be attracted to metal. In today's area we need another term for us other than "tinfoil hat."

Look, I don't want to get into a big argument with you about this on here, it's not the place for it. There are lots and lots of conspiracy forums out there.

It's not, in logical discourse, necessary for anyone to prove something is NOT occuring. That's like saying, "oh, yeah!? Well prove God DOESN'T exist Mr. Atheist." Sorry, that's not how such discourse works. It's not logical. You (among many others for the past 20 years that I know of) made the assertion that "they" are spraying some unidentified agent intended to um, well...you don't really specify, from essentially any aircraft that leaves behind a contrail.

Well, prove it. And I don't mean by posting a link to someone else wearing a tinfoil hat. I mean find me a United Airlines, Continental, Southwest, Delta, etc. pilot (retired or still employed, willing to give his name, address, etc.) who has gone public or will go public here verifying that yes, his plane was loaded with some agent that was released with his exhaust and then we can begin to engage in a real conversation abou this.

I'd also accept a county or state health officer who will come forward and say that yes, X-number of citizens in their jurisdiction just up and died in a mysterious epidemic, that they traced to some pathogen released from overhead flights.

Let me tell you something. For years, I've lived under or near the primary flight paths out of one of the nation's larges airports. I am healthy as a horse. I am rarely sick. Though I DID come down with a flu-like illness maybe 4-5 years ago, that made me very ill for about three weeks...

Tokie

StokeyBob- Wow! That book looks interesting. I will get it. I read the product description and it talked about the experiments and giving people LSD. Go to youtube and type in MKUltra and watch some of those videos. Many of those victims were given LSD .

FYI - my ex-spouse was a microbiologist (not with CDC; but a company closely related) If the general public knew what they were doing to animals on this farm, they would have had it shut down. I have often wondered what other experiments were going on there. They did A LOT with e.coli
It was a very secretive place to say the least.
It was located on a farm with goats, rabbits, rats, horses, etc. The buildings had labs with all kinds of high tech equiment, beakers, centrifuges, etc.

I'm now confused about the tinfoil hats. I've heard that they're bad, but now you show me something that is otherwise. I wear a zapper which strengthens the energy field around my body and I also keep a stone on me for protection.


Thanks again for all the information.

Originally Posted by Molly

Originally Posted by Tokenconservative

Originally Posted by Molly

Originally Posted by Tokenconservative

I'm sick of it.

I know what you mean when the liberal left tries to twist all the facts against us about illegal immigration. But the truth is these guys are wrong and this president is a traitor and so are the rest of the people who support what he is doing. All through time dictatars have tried to convince the people they ruled over that they knew best. Right now our way of life and our government is being over-thrown by people who hate America. I too voted for this president, never could I imagine that he would turn against the American people, but he has. He needs to be taken out of office and punished. I don't think the American people who love our country are going to sit back and let all this nonsense go on. Evenually the people are going to put a stop tp it. I just hope it's soon!

That's the problem though...in my view, and what I had quite a shocking (to me) epiphany about when debate about the Scamnesty broke. I thought the libs were behind all this, the open borders, the mollycoddling of illegals, forcing us to learn their language, forcing us to assimilate to their culture, etc.

It was the BUSH-Kennedy Scamnesty bill. Bush is supposed to be one of the good guys.

I will never vote for a "R" again. They are going to lose in '08, and that will probably mean a long, tough economic decline for your nation, but what's the point of voting for a Republican when all you'll be doing is putting a slightly different kind of self-serving socialist?

I am not sure what we are or even can do about it. Go to Wal-Mart. (MOD EDIT). Go to any construction site. The people working those $20-$60/hr jobs are probably illegals. When ICE raided those meatpacking plants last year, a week later when they reopened, AMERCIANS were lining up to take the "jobs Americans won't do!" that had been occupied by illegals.

This is about money and power. This president's father wanted to usher in a "new world order." Much as I hate conspiratorial crap, I have to admit that the son is working hard to accomplish what his father was hoping for. And getting it accomplished. In my state, there are, by a very conservative estimate, something around 250,000 illegals (it's likely closer to 300k). The census says this state has about 2 million people. And we are in the middle of the pack as far as this sort of statistic goes.

This is very, very bad.

Tokie

Originally Posted by saveourcountry

Tokenconservative - you asked for proof; how about your proof that the government doesn't spray the air with pathogens. Is your only argument against the idea is that it sounds too far out there? Do you actually think that someone deep inside the government would come forward and admit that they spayed pathogens and killed people? Even a guilty conscious wouldn't result in that admission. Agent orange was in the same category. Study up on that. Anyone who doesn't think that this is happening is naive.

StokeyBob- thanks for the information


Hey you all,

As much as I love my tinfoil hat, don't wear it. All these cell phone towers and underground electromagnetic energies would be attracted to metal. In today's area we need another term for us other than "tinfoil hat."

I think you're the one left with the burden of proof on this one.

Armybrat21 - Check out Stokeybob's book above.

You will find out with proof in the distant future. It is true. That's all I can say right now.

Originally Posted by BearFlagRepublic

There is no conspiracy. Its as old as time. Fuedal lords excercising their dominance over the masses. How long do you think middle-classes have existed? We live in a very unique time-period, in a world with a history dominated by oppression, tyranny, and slavery. The modern Western world created something great........Where if you work hard, you are rewarded with a comfortable life. This is unique to the 20th century Western world. The fuedal lords are trying to leverage it back to total control at the top, mass poverty and ignorance below.

It never changed in Mexico and the rest of the Third World. The elites aren't so much emulating them, as they are going back to civilizational norms and traditions. One difference: we are not slaves, we have a constitution, and we have a feirce tradition of freedom and winning battlles. Let's see who wins out.

Middle classes rise and fall. The Romans had one, so did the ancient Chinese. In the West, the middle class began its rise once again in the Middle Ages; kings cannot actually make their own swords and feather beds, after all, nor sail the ships that bring them exotic spices from afar.

But I take your meaning and yes, that's what this is about: destroying the middle class, the very backbone, of America. These people want America to be a 3rd World nation, they want only the haves and have-nots, but the have-nots should have just enough left to buy trashy products from Wal-Mart. That is what Bush and 98% of our politicians from city to state to fed are working toward right now.

This is why so many of them were so fully in suppor to of the Bush-Kennedy Scamnesty...on BOTH sides of the political aisle. They were both horrified when, by the power of this medim here, primarily, word about this got out to We, the People, who still retain a modicum of power by our votes, and put a stop to this, what would've been the biggest power grab since the October Revolution in Russia almost a century ago.

Make no mistake, the intent is to destroy the America we know, a land of free markets and free souls, and turn us into a nation of serfs, forced to do the bidding of our lords in their manor houses, like Bush and Kennedy and 98% of the rest of our politicians.

Interesting side note: virtually all of the "conservative" yakkers on the radio were caught with their trousers down on this one. Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Ingraham...none of them were talking about this until it exploded on the 'net, and it became known to the hoi palloi what was about to happen behind the scenes. Then, this gaggle of hypocrites came running, claiming oh, no, they've always been right there, why look, two years ago (and they have the clips to prove it!) they said they were opposed to illegal immigration, yadda, yadda, yadda.

Oh...wait...I nearly forgotted. Rush, Hannity, Ingraham, et al....they are the landed gentry themselves, aren't they?

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Time to take back our country.


Tokie