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    Trump makes huge clarification: 'THERE'S NO AMNESTY'

    Trump makes huge clarification: 'There's no amnesty'

    By ANNA GIARITELLI (@ANNA_GIARITELLI)
    8/24/16 7:36 PM



    Donald Trump is expected to come down hard during part two of his Austin, Texas, town hall Wednesday night against those who have claimed his immigration stances have started to resemble amnesty.

    In an interview taped Tuesday, the Republican nominee told Fox News host Sean Hannity he was open to "softening" immigration views, but did not specify what he meant. The segment set to air Wednesday showcases a polarizing statement on whether he would allow exceptions for otherwise law-abiding illegal aliens.


    "No citizenship. Let me go a step further they'll pay back-taxes, they have to pay taxes, there's no amnesty, as such, there's no amnesty, but we work with them. Now, everybody agrees we get the bad ones out," Trump said. "But when I go through and I meet thousands and thousands of people on this subject, and I've had very strong people come up to me, really great, great people come up to me, and they've said, 'Mr. Trump, I love you, but to take a person who's been here for 15 or 20 years and throw them and their family out, it's so tough, Mr. Trump,' I have it all the time! It's a very, very hard thing."


    One of the methods criminal illegal aliens have been able to stay in the U.S. despite being arrested for various crimes is because more than 300 cities' law enforcement officers will not hold criminal aliens for Immigration and Customs Enforcement to pick up. Instead, criminal aliens are let out back on to the street.

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    "We got to get rid of the sanctuary cities, we're protecting these people. We're protecting criminals. And the police, who are phenomenal people, they're at a point where they almost give up. They catch them, they have them, they know they did it and then they know nothing is going to happen," Trump said. "You know, OK, so if you're a killer and you're in this country, they go after you big league and it's tough. If you're a killer and you're an illegal immigrant, the police don't know what to do."

    Trump met with Hispanic groups over the weekend and talked about the meeting at a Fox News townhall in Austin, Texas, Tuesday night.


    "[T]here certainly can be a softening because we're not looking to hurt people, we want people we have some great people in this country," Trump said about his meeting with the Latino leaders. "So, but we're going to follow the laws of this country. And, you know, what people don't realize, what people don't realize, we have very, very strong laws."


    Trump covered all of his bases, citing following the rule of law, but remaining vague enough that it was unclear whether he was talking about holding illegal aliens accountable for entering the country without legal permission or something else.


    On Tuesday, when moderator Sean Hannity asked Trump if he would essentially grant amnesty or legal forgiveness to those who have "worked hard, who have been here a long time," Trump admitted he plans to "see where people are, we're going to see how they've done."

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    "No citizenship. Let me go a step further they'll pay back-taxes, they have to pay taxes, there's no amnesty, as such, there's no amnesty, but we work with them.
    Working with them and paying back taxes ........ sounds like a potential amnesty to me. Deporting them immediately does not require working with them or forcing them to pay some sort of back taxes. You're only interested in the taxes if you plan on allowing them to buy there way to some sort of legalization. Legalizing illegals in any manner is amnesty. There doesn't have to be "citizenship" to get amnesty. Besides that, the liberal politicians in the U.S. Congress would never allow legalization without some kind of eventual path to citizenship.

    Keeping my eyes and ears open to see how this evolves.

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    "No citizenship. Let me go a step further they'll pay back-taxes, they have to pay taxes, there's no amnesty, as such, there's no amnesty, but we work with them. . . .
    There seem to always be some extra words added, as an out latter on?
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    Back taxes doesn't amount to squat. Most of them receive more in EITC than they pay in taxes. There's no net revenue. 87% of illegal aliens are on at least one form of welfare, so there's no tax or revenue advantage to allowing anyone to stay. It's a total and complete negative income stream, one way, OUT of the pockets of our American citizen work force, out of our US treasury, and even all the way out of our country in remittances.

    It all must stop. The drain must end.

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    Sheriff Joe is trying to debate with Megyn Kelly. He says that Trump said he will enforce the laws. They are claiming that Trump has done a 180 and that he now agrees with Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, John McCain.

    Former RedState Erik Erickson said months ago that Trump would flip flop on this and now he has on deportation. Reminding that in 2012 Trump chastised Romney about self deportation being cruel.

    Sheriff Joe again says Trump is going to build the wall and he will enforce the laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Back taxes doesn't amount to squat . . .
    So why is Trump wasting his time, and our time,
    trying to make a big deal out of it?
    (That's a rhetorical question.)
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    Just saw the interview. Megyn is on a Hillary To Win mission. Megyn can't wait, wetting her pants in fact, to see Trump lose. So she'll spin it her way. Trump's Surrogates like Sheriff Joe are in a pickle because they don't know what to say at this point. Just put all the confusion on the person responsible and that's the Trojan Horse named Kellyanne Conway. She has to go. He's got to get her off the television and out of control over his campaign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    So why is Trump wasting his time, and our time,
    trying to make a big deal out of it?
    (That's a rhetorical question.)
    So when he's "working with them", he'll be able to say, oh look here at your situation, you're a drain on the economy, you're not only stealing jobs from American Workers, you're getting EITC payments for illegal work, while sucking on welfare programs and burdening our schools and medical services. There is no net gain for our country or citizens for you to stay, therefore, you must go home. NEXT!!
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    A rhetorical question is a question that you ask without expecting an answer. The question might be one that does not have an answer. It might also be one that has an obvious answer but you have asked the question to make a point, to persuade or for literary effect.

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    Watching Hannity right now. TRUMP DID NOT SAY THIS AS HIS POSITION. He posed the 2 options of:

    1. throw them out
    2. work with them if they've been here for example 15 to 20 years and committed no other crimes, pay back taxes, etc.

    to the crowd and the place was packed.

    Only a few said 1. which Trump said to one of those, I get it, I'm with you, because they're taking jobs from Americans.

    More said 2.

    Trump said it's a hard thing and he hears this everywhere he goes, people tell hm he's too tough.

    What Trump has to do is educate the public and explain to them why they can't stay, why they have to go.
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