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    Nothing about late-term abortions are "straw dog" in the argument. Regardless of what doctors recommend, they are still happening regularly. Some women have them simply because of relationship breakups.
    You mean a woman had a late term abortion because her husband left her or her boyfriend didn't want to get married? What is your problem with that? Most women want to have families when they're married. While some women don't mind raising a family on their own, most don't because they can't afford it or don't want the child of a man who left her. Whether you agree with her decision, it is her decision. Based on the abortion statistics, there are very very few late term abortions in the United States and most are clearly done for medical reasons, but in the rare instance where there might be one that fits your scenario, what about it? What right do you or the government on your behalf have to force her into childbirth against her will? Just because someone does something you don't agree with, doesn't always make it wrong.

    The best person to decide what is right or wrong with regards to an abortion is the girl or woman involved. She is the only one who has all the facts, risk and responsibility. That's why it is and should be her decision under the law.
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    Donald Trump on Abortion - OnTheIssues.org

    www.ontheissues.org/celeb/Donald_Trump_Abortion.htm

    TRUMP: I'm pro-life. I'm totally against abortion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    Donald Trump on Abortion - OnTheIssues.org

    www.ontheissues.org/celeb/Donald_Trump_Abortion.htm

    TRUMP: I'm pro-life. I'm totally against abortion.
    JD2, what are you doing?? Why would you misquote Donald Trump on the issue of abortion?

    This is what he actually said in your link:

    TRUMP: As far as Planned Parenthood is concerned, I'm pro-life. I'm totally against abortion, having to do with Planned Parenthood.
    There is not a period after the word abortion. There is a comma, which states thereafter "having to do with Planned Parenthood." He is totally against funding for Planned Parenthood if they are performing abortions.

    Why would you alter the quote to convey a false meaning on ALIPAC??!!!
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    Donald Trump took 5 different positions on abortion in 3 days - The ...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../donald-trumps-ever-shifting-positions-on-abortion/
    Aug 19, 2015 - Donald Trump's 'evolving' stance on abortion. Embed ...
    Here's a look back at how he "evolved" into his pro-life views. Here's a look back at ...

    His views change so often you can interpret them to mean anything on different days.
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    Donald Trump on Abortion
    • Click here for 14 full quotes on Abortion OR other candidates on Abortion OR background on Abortion.

    • Not acceptable to rip baby from womb in 9th month. (Oct 2016)
    • Overturn Roe v, Wade and return abortion laws to the states. (Oct 2016)
    • Millions are helped by Planned Parenthood, but defund it. (Feb 2016)
    • Planned Parenthood does great work on women's health. (Feb 2016)
    • Defund Planned Parenthood. (Oct 2015)
    • Planned Parenthood is important, but abortions must stop. (Aug 2015)
    • I have evolved on abortion issue, like Reagan evolved. (Aug 2015)
    • Ban late abortions; exceptions for rape, incest or health. (Jun 2015)
    • Undecided on embryonic stem cell research. (Apr 2011)
    • I am now pro-life; after years of being pro-choice. (Apr 2011)
    • I changed my views to pro-life based on personal stories. (Apr 2011)
    • I am pro-life; fight ObamaCare abortion funding. (Feb 2011)
    • Pro-choice, but ban partial birth abortion. (Jul 2000)
    • Favors abortion rights but respects opposition. (Dec 1999)

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    The issue wasn't how his positions have changed or evolved. The issue was that you deliberately altered a quote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    The issue wasn't how his positions have changed or evolved. The issue was that you deliberately altered a quote.
    I didn't change anything.
    I posted the info just as it was emailed to me from a friend.
    Trump is Pro-Life.
    That is a fact.
    Why does it bother you?
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    You can not force everyone here to believe the same things you do about abortion.
    This is not a liberal site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    I didn't change anything.
    I posted the info just as it was emailed to me from a friend.
    Trump is Pro-Life.
    That is a fact.
    Why does it bother you?
    Misquoting anyone bothers me, because it's the same thing as posting a lie.
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